Thrilla Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Trump Casino Havana ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan7444 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Thank God the b***ard is finally dead. I grew up with him as the Commie off the shores of the US and with his missiles from the <deleted> Soviets 90 miles off our coast digging bomb shelters in case they were ever launched. Batista was not a good guy but far better than Castro for the people. The US was the primary source of Cuban income from sugar to cigars to rum and doing a good business, including the money from casinos, even through run by the Mob. People profited from all of this commerce and under Castro the imbargo imposed by Ike and reinforced by JFK killed their economy. Screw with the US and you will pay the price. Period!!! Look at all the people Castro murdered for their independent beliefs and all of the 1000s of Cubans exiled or running (boat people) in the 60s to Florida to escape his terror and murder, many who died at sea. Under Castro this Communist regime put the people down, shut down the press, killed any form of democratic discussion, and put down the Catholic religion. They exported, compliments of Che Guevara, Communism to other countries in So. America and tried but failed to do the same in Africa. They were the outcasts of the world along with So. Korea due to Castro so I spit on his grave and piss there as well. Good ridden to Fidel and soon Raul and hope they give full democracy back to the people. Trump should cut off relations that the other ba***ad Obama reestablished with Cuba until they come into the international community of nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Thrilla said: Trump Casino Havana ! I don't really like but yes it could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitos Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 What Great men Fidel Castro. RIP. Quotes A revolution is a struggle to the death between the future and the past. They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America? I find capitalism repugnant. It is filthy, it is gross, it is alienating... because it causes war, hypocrisy and competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlcart Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 It has been reported that Castro had sex with over 35,000 women, putting some of our Pattaya sexpats to shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 43 minutes ago, Thechook said: The general is running out of like minded friends, dictators are a dying breed. Little Kimmie is still alive and so is Robert. As of today, there are 50 dictatorships in the world (21 in Africa, 19 in Asia, 8 in the Middle East, 1 in Europe and 1 in the Caribbean). We define a dictator as the ruler of a land rated “Not Free” by the Freedom House in their annual survey of freedom. See the interactive map and filterable list of photos https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Stan7444 said: Thank God the b***ard is finally dead. I grew up with him as the Commie off the shores of the US and with his missiles from the <deleted> Soviets 90 miles off our coast digging bomb shelters in case they were ever launched. Batista was not a good guy but far better than Castro for the people. The US was the primary source of Cuban income from sugar to cigars to rum and doing a good business, including the money from casinos, even through run by the Mob. People profited from all of this commerce and under Castro the imbargo imposed by Ike and reinforced by JFK killed their economy. Screw with the US and you will pay the price. Period!!! Look at all the people Castro murdered for their independent beliefs and all of the 1000s of Cubans exiled or running (boat people) in the 60s to Florida to escape his terror and murder, many who died at sea. Under Castro this Communist regime put the people down, shut down the press, killed any form of democratic discussion, and put down the Catholic religion. They exported, compliments of Che Guevara, Communism to other countries in So. America and tried but failed to do the same in Africa. They were the outcasts of the world along with So. Korea due to Castro so I spit on his grave and piss there as well. Good ridden to Fidel and soon Raul and hope they give full democracy back to the people. Trump should cut off relations that the other ba***ad Obama reestablished with Cuba until they come into the international community of nations. Ooouuuucchh!! Sounds like a sore loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, mitos said: What Great men Fidel Castro. RIP. Quotes A revolution is a struggle to the death between the future and the past. They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America? I find capitalism repugnant. It is filthy, it is gross, it is alienating... because it causes war, hypocrisy and competition. You missed my post where he lived the life of a capitalist. Not a revolutionary. Talk about hypocrisy. He fooled a lot of people. As most dictators do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampang2 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Finaly. But Castro family continues to keep Cuba as private property. Disgusting evil people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Communism,,,,,,,,,,,,Everybody is equal............Except I am more equal than you because I am at the top.........all his countrymen suffered from sanctions, lack of progress in technology etc, while he, and his kin lived a life of luxury.......yeh right........held a country back in the 50;s .......His Brother is no better........ OK that is just my opinion........which I am happen to say I can voice because I do not live in Castro's Cuba..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 11 minutes ago, wlcart said: It has been reported that Castro had sex with over 35,000 women, putting some of our Pattaya sexpats to shame. Hang on......i am a lot younger than him.........Give me time........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Who was right and who was wrong? A man loved by many. Gave to his people what was wanted by those off shore and the very greedy in Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, coma said: Is there any chance all the Cubans that fled Castro to the United States will move back to Cuba now. It depends what they were doing during Batista's rule and whether or not there are people that remember. It's not like Castro overthrew a democracy, is it? Edited November 26, 2016 by Chicog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn0000 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 39 minutes ago, khwaibah said: Is this more to your liking. Not really, I can't find much to like in people rejoicing someones death, it certainly is a more relevant video though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: One of the extraordinary men of modern times. While some ( probably many ) will dislike his politics, he liberated his land from dictatorship, American imperialism and the mafia. His biggest mistake was no doubt permitting Russian missiles to be installed, which IMO allowed the US to impose a severe embargo for many years. Were it not for that, I reckon his regime would have not been so extreme, and relations with the US could have been normalized many years ago. Within Cuba, he is no doubt remembered with fondness and respect, which, IMO, is the only thing that counts. Liberated this land from dictatorship to introduce another, even harder dictatorship. Edited November 26, 2016 by Honthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: While some ( probably many ) will dislike his politics, he liberated his land from dictatorship, American imperialism and the mafia. But at what cost to his people and realistically he simply replaced one dictator with another. Sort of like George Bush liberated Iraq from Sadaam and Mugabe liberated Rhodesia/Zimbabwe from Ian Smith. The expression "sometimes better the devil you know." comes to mind. Yes, the initial acts of liberation were greeted with jubilation, but then reality reared its ugly head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Castro and the "big" Che forced the death camps in Cuba, stopped the working economy and Castro introduced a special personality cult what had been in the UdSSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 3 hours ago, elgordo38 said: I am neither a US hater or any kind of hater or a communist but Fidel retains my admiration for one thing only. He always till his dying breath retained his feelings towards the US right or wrong now only God knows. He never wavered or became wishy washy he stuck to his guns. not to forget that he survived 8 US presidents who caused misery to the Cuban people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn0000 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 11 minutes ago, Suradit69 said: But at what cost to his people and realistically he simply replaced one dictator with another. Sort of like George Bush liberated Iraq from Sadaam and Mugabe liberated Rhodesia/Zimbabwe from Ian Smith. The expression "sometimes better the devil you know." comes to mind. Yes, the initial acts of liberation were greeted with jubilation, but then reality reared its ugly head. At what cost? One of the highest literacy rates in the world, the highest number of doctors to patients in the world resulting in some of the best health statistics in the Americas, for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: One of the extraordinary men of modern times. While some ( probably many ) will dislike his politics, he liberated his land from dictatorship, American imperialism and the mafia. His biggest mistake was no doubt permitting Russian missiles to be installed, which IMO allowed the US to impose a severe embargo for many years. Were it not for that, I reckon his regime would have not been so extreme, and relations with the US could have been normalized many years ago. Within Cuba, he is no doubt remembered with fondness and respect, which, IMO, is the only thing that counts. Agree with most of it,...only, the Missile crisis , was in response to the Missiles The US was placing in friendly countries close to the Soviet borders !!!...it was a natural reaction to a provocation !!! Been to Cuba 20 years ago, was astonished to see that Cubans had free and excellent healthcare and education as well !!! and one of the highest literacy rates I ever witnessed 99.7% /99.8%...the US doesn't even make it in the 25 first country's. FYI...it's 45 th... R.I.P. Fidel ! Best Regards http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-highest-literacy-rates-in-the-world.html http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=39 Edited November 26, 2016 by off road pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, Naam said: not to forget that he survived 8 US presidents who caused misery to the Cuban people. I would rather say rather Castro and his socialist politic caused misery to the Cubans. That is another issue that the 8 US presidents helped not too much to Cuba, but why on Earth would have done that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said: At what cost? One of the highest literacy rates in the world, the highest number of doctors to patients in the world resulting in some of the best health statistics in the Americas, for instance. Most probably statistically ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayalover Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 and what about all the guys who have been killed or put in jail, tortured.... Cuba is not a democracy but a regime and now it s the brothers who control all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru2 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 For all his faults, a truly great man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 3 hours ago, craigt3365 said: It also had to do with money: https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/04/18/cuba-you-owe-billion/jHAufRfQJ9Bx24TuzQyBNO/story.html I'm sure the US owes them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choff56 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 3 hours ago, JHolmesJr said: The only leader afaik who had a major brand of engine oil named after him. And a car too, the "Castro Convertible". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al007 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, off road pat said: Been to Cuba 20 years ago, was astonished to see that Cubans had free and excellent healthcare and education as well !!! and one of the highest literacy rates I ever witnessed 99.7% /99.8%...the US doesn't even make it in the 25 first country's. FYI...it's 45 th... most Cubans I spoke to knew more about my country (Belgium) than any American I ever met until present days... I don't want to sound anti American, but as most Americans hate and criticize Cuba at will without knowing anything about the country !!! ...R.I.P.Fidel. Best Regards. So so true, I loved the place, felt much safer than in Thailand, and my personal belief there were less restrictions on visitors than there are in Thailand, and maybe more freedom than here, controversial but my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJoad Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Come January, it's the USA that will have a demagogue for a leader with strong ties to Russia, while Cuba will have the better primary health care system of the two. It's as if they've decided to exchange places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
important Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 ah the mad dogs of miami celebrating, what a surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: One of the extraordinary men of modern times. While some ( probably many ) will dislike his politics, he liberated his land from dictatorship, American imperialism and the mafia. His biggest mistake was no doubt permitting Russian missiles to be installed, which IMO allowed the US to impose a severe embargo for many years. Were it not for that, I reckon his regime would have not been so extreme, and relations with the US could have been normalized many years ago. Within Cuba, he is no doubt remembered with fondness and respect, which, IMO, is the only thing that counts. Well possibly not by those detained for political offences (8600 reportedly in 2015), the relatives of those executed for political crimes (2113 reportedly between 1953 and 1957) the large number of political dissidents incarcerated in psychiatric institutions, or the 10% plus of the population who fled the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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