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Israel says will build 3,000 new homes in West Bank settlements

REUTERS

 

A general view shows the Jewish settlers' outpost of Amona (front) and the Palestinian village of Silwad in the background, in the West Bank November 16, 2016. REUTERS/Ronen Zvulun

 

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel announced plans on Tuesday for 3,000 more settlement homes in the occupied West Bank, the third such declaration in eleven days since U.S. President Donald Trump took office.

 

Trump has signalled he could be more accommodating towards such projects than his predecessor Barack Obama.

 

A statement from the Israeli Defence Ministry, which administers lands Israel captured in a 1967 war, said the decision was meant to fulfil demand for housing and "return to life as usual".

 

The announcement came close to midnight as preparations began for the eviction of 330 settlers from an outpost in the West Bank. The Supreme Court had ruled that the Amona outpost must be evacuated by Feb 8. because it was built illegally on privately-owned Palestinian land.

 

Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are due to meet in Washington on Feb. 15. The president's chief spokesman said last week the two leaders would discuss settlement building.

 

The muted response from the Trump White House so far on Israel's settlement announcements has been a clear departure from Obama, whose aides routinely criticized settlement construction plans.

 

An announcement a week ago by Israel that it would build some 2,500 more homes in the West Bank drew rebuke from the Palestinians and from the EU. It followed approval of more than 560 new homes in East Jerusalem days before.

 

Palestinians want the West Bank and Gaza Strip for an independent state, with its capital in East Jerusalem. Israeli troops and settlers withdrew from Gaza in 2005.

 

Most countries consider settlements illegal and an obstacle to Israeli-Palestinian peace as they reduce and fragment the territory Palestinians need for a viable state.

 

Israel disagrees, citing biblical, historical and political connections to the land - which the Palestinians also assert - as well as security interests.

 

(Reporting by Maayan Lubell; Editing by Bernard Orr)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-02-01

[Somtamnication]

Good to know they are building housing for the non Jewish refugees arriving there. 

[Ulysses G.]

Can't really blame the Israelis. 70 years of pointless Palestinian recalcitrance gets old. Time for them to sign a peace treaty and get on with improving their lives.

[kamahele]

3 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

Can't really blame the Israelis. 70 years of pointless Palestinian recalcitrance gets old. Time for them to sign a peace treaty and get on with improving their lives.

There is no peace treaty because the Israeli government doesn't want a peace treaty. They are stringing the world along until they can occupy 100% of the land that legally is not theirs.

[i claudius]

Well the Palastinians do sod all ,just winge and fire rockets into Israel ,while Israel builds a modern country . good for them .

[Ulysses G.]

1 hour ago, kamahele said:

There is no peace treaty because the Israeli government doesn't want a peace treaty. They are stringing the world along until they can occupy 100% of the land that legally is not theirs.

 

Israel has offered numerous chances and some pretty favorable terms. However, if the Palestinians had accepted the original UN deal, instead of declaring war and attacking Israel, they would have been a lot better off.  

[Galactus]

2 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Israel has offered numerous chances and some pretty favorable terms. However, if the Palestinians had accepted the original UN deal, instead of declaring war and attacking Israel, they would have been a lot better off.  

 

yep. Israel offered numerous chances by occupying and stealing the land of others and constantly building new houses on stolen land plus by oppressing and killing Palestinians for a century.

c'mon, anyone aware of the situation in Israel sure laugh this statement with their as..es wide open:)

 

now Fascist Trump is here and Israel is encouraged to do more harm to peace and building homes to Israeli cheap settlers on the land stolen from Palestinians.

and this will cause what? more radical islamic f.ers and more rockets to Israel.

a bloody vicious circle created by Israel.

 

 

 

Edited February 1, 2017 by Galactus

[cncltd1973]

14 hours ago, Galactus said:

 

yep. Israel offered numerous chances by occupying and stealing the land of others and constantly building new houses on stolen land plus by oppressing and killing Palestinians for a century.

c'mon, anyone aware of the situation in Israel sure laugh this statement with their as..es wide open:)

 

now Fascist Trump is here and Israel is encouraged to do more harm to peace and building homes to Israeli cheap settlers on the land stolen from Palestinians.

and this will cause what? more radical islamic f.ers and more rockets to Israel.

a bloody vicious circle created by Israel.

We need to update the artwork of Trump and Putin making out to include Netanyahu in a threesome.

Trump is delusional if he thinks he can make the US safe by giving Israel whatever it wants. If he approves of it, and moves the US embassy to Jerusalem, he is begging for an international incident/tragedy.

Edited February 1, 2017 by cncltd1973

[bandito]

16 hours ago, Galactus said:

 

yep. Israel offered numerous chances by occupying and stealing the land of others and constantly building new houses on stolen land plus by oppressing and killing Palestinians for a century.

c'mon, anyone aware of the situation in Israel sure laugh this statement with their as..es wide open:)

 

now Fascist Trump is here and Israel is encouraged to do more harm to peace and building homes to Israeli cheap settlers on the land stolen from Palestinians.

and this will cause what? more radical islamic f.ers and more rockets to Israel.

a bloody vicious circle created by Israel.

 

 

 

 

Israel never started any war. It were the Arabs and Palestinians who refused to make peace with Israel and instead attacked her from all sides, more than once.

Their aim was to "drive all Jews in the sea".

Did not happen, Israel gave them a beating and as a precaution, against further attacks, occupied land.

This was AFTER the war and not before.

Had the Palestinians and their Arab allies accepted a peace deal they would have their own state.

The one who made peace and recognized Israel was/is Egypt, also after a beating by Israel who was 60 km from Cairo in their war with them, a war started by Egypt.

Israel is unbeatable and won't led a band of Arabs drive them in the sea.

Israel is defending itself daily against attacks by Palestinians, their Armed Forces are named IDF or Israel Defence Forces, not attack forces.

 As soon the Palestinians and their friends understand this we are nearer some peace deal which Israel always is willing to make.

[ddavidovsky]

55 minutes ago, bandito said:

 

Israel never started any war. It were the Arabs and Palestinians who refused to make peace with Israel and instead attacked her from all sides, more than once.

Their aim was to "drive all Jews in the sea".

Did not happen, Israel gave them a beating and as a precaution, against further attacks, occupied land.

This was AFTER the war and not before.

Had the Palestinians and their Arab allies accepted a peace deal they would have their own state.

The one who made peace and recognized Israel was/is Egypt, also after a beating by Israel who was 60 km from Cairo in their war with them, a war started by Egypt.

Israel is unbeatable and won't led a band of Arabs drive them in the sea.

Israel is defending itself daily against attacks by Palestinians, their Armed Forces are named IDF or Israel Defence Forces, not attack forces.

 As soon the Palestinians and their friends understand this we are nearer some peace deal which Israel always is willing to make.

You're forgetting the part where Israel just forced its way in and took the Palestinians' land as their own.

And this happened within living memory, not biblical eras ago.

[bangon04]

"

Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are due to meet in Washington on Feb. 15. The president's chief spokesman said last week the two leaders would discuss settlement building.

 

The muted response from the Trump White House so far on Israel's settlement announcements has been a clear departure from Obama, whose aides routinely criticized settlement construction plans."

 

no need to pretend any more..... the gloves are definitely off

[Ulysses G.]

7 minutes ago, ddavidovsky said:

You're forgetting the part where Israel just forced its way in and took the Palestinians' land as their own.

 

 

Only that did not happen. The Palestinians started the violence in the first place,  refused a UN deal for their own country (for the first time ever), declared war on Israel for accepting the UN solution and lost. They have been fomenting terrorist attacks ever since. They have made their own beds and irrational obstinance is not making their lives any better.

[ddavidovsky]

11 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Only that did not happen. The Palestinians started the violence in the first place,  refused a UN deal for their own country (for the first time ever), declared war on Israel for accepting the UN solution and lost. They have been fomenting terrorist attacks ever since. They have made their own beds and irrational obstinance is not making their lives any better.

Israeli forced its way into Palestine by pure terrorism.

Read a history book that wasn't written by your own tribe.

[Ulysses G.]

11 minutes ago, ddavidovsky said:

Israeli forced its way into Palestine by pure terrorism.

 

 

Absolute nonsense. The first 20 years of the conflict, Arabs were responsible for starting every single violent political attack and that is a fact. The Jews did not start fighting back in a serious way until the 1930s.  Stay away from phoney websites and psuedo-history propaganda. They are totally inaccurate.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine

 

 

[Galactus]

4 hours ago, bandito said:

 

Israel never started any war. It were the Arabs and Palestinians who refused to make peace with Israel and instead attacked her from all sides, more than once.

Their aim was to "drive all Jews in the sea".

Did not happen, Israel gave them a beating and as a precaution, against further attacks, occupied land.

This was AFTER the war and not before.

Had the Palestinians and their Arab allies accepted a peace deal they would have their own state.

The one who made peace and recognized Israel was/is Egypt, also after a beating by Israel who was 60 km from Cairo in their war with them, a war started by Egypt.

Israel is unbeatable and won't led a band of Arabs drive them in the sea.

Israel is defending itself daily against attacks by Palestinians, their Armed Forces are named IDF or Israel Defence Forces, not attack forces.

 As soon the Palestinians and their friends understand this we are nearer some peace deal which Israel always is willing to make.

 

hahass. like it was Israel win the war?

Israel has nothing but desert sand if US does not provide help, arm, assistance and soldiers. Israel is a proxy of US in middle east aka cursed lands to create disturbance there close to largest petrol areas on earth basically and nothign else.

Same as the war with Egypt, it was won by US arms and US landed lots of arms to Israel those times and still landing.

Moreover, as long as it is palestinains and arabs' land stolen, they have every right to drive Israelis. if you come steal my land, i do my best to remove you from there as well, this is very normal and i am sure you do the same.

Israeli forces unfortunately just defending a vicious bloody circle. and they are helping for stealing land and building homes. against all international laws.

 

Edited February 2, 2017 by Galactus

[dexterm]

On 2/1/2017 at 11:35 AM, Ulysses G. said:

 

Israel has offered numerous chances and some pretty favorable terms. However, if the Palestinians had accepted the original UN deal, instead of declaring war and attacking Israel, they would have been a lot better off.  

Palestinians rejected the UN Partition deal simply because it was grossly unfair ...55% of their land was being given away by foreigners to mainly illegal European immigrants who owned a mere 6% of the land and numbered only 31% of the population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine#British_censuses_and_estimations

 

The Palestinians thought they should get a better deal, just as the Zionist Congress 10 years previously rejected the Peel Commission Partition Plan, because they thought they could get more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_Commission

 

Sadly, that mistake cost the lives of 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust, who may have had a state to go to.

 

The Zionists knew better next time than to reject Partition in 47, because they were better organized, armed, financed and with friends in high places, plus world sympathy. And of course they knew they could capture the rest, which is exactly what they have done and continue to do so in the OP.

 

Just because the bully wins does not make it right. 

 

20:20 hindsight vision is wonderful counsel. In retrospect, the current generation Palestinians' great grandparents maybe should have accepted the unfair deal.

Both sides made mistakes.

But that was then; this is now. Let's look to the future.

 

Edited February 2, 2017 by dexterm

[DriveByTrucker]

6 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Absolute nonsense. The first 20 years of the conflict, Arabs were responsible for starting every single violent political attack and that is a fact. The Jews did not start fighting back in a serious way until the 1930s.  Stay away from phoney websites and psuedo-history propaganda. They are totally inaccurate.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine

 

 

Funny how any action of Palestinians defending their land is called terrorism, while the jewish terrorist organization Irgun (1930ties) are "fighters". I am sure the Deir Yassin massacre was a justified battle in your eyes (1000 people slaughtered), while for any other person these were terrorist actions.....coincidently Irgun was led by Menachem Begin at that time, the creep who later founded the fascist Likud party....

 

 

[AGLV0121]

On 1/31/2017 at 6:50 PM, Somtamnication said:

Good to know they are building housing for the non Jewish refugees arriving there. 

 

Well, actually...

 

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2017/01/israel-syria-war-orphans-ngo-human-rights-campaign.html

and

https://news.vice.com/article/inside-the-hospital-where-israeli-doctors-treat-syrian-patients

[AGLV0121]

On 2/2/2017 at 4:02 AM, DriveByTrucker said:

I am sure the Deir Yassin massacre was a justified battle in your eyes (1000 people slaughtered),

 

>>>   Aref al-Aref, an Aran\b journalist, counted 117 victims, including seven soldiers

 

Ahhhh! Inflation....