Child dependant visa

[elliott101]

Hi guys, looking for some help, im trying to obtain a non o visa based on having a dependant, just wondering what documents are needed?  I only have his Thai passport and birth citificate with me, will this be enough to get the visa? Currently in Thailand now on a tourist visa. 

 

i'm not married to my child's mother, 

 

Any help greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you  

 

 

 

[elviajero]

The visa would be issued based on being a parent, not dependency.

 

You should also supply a copy of your sons house registration book.

 

You'll only get a single entry visa good for 90 days at most embassies/consulates. You might get a multiple entry visa at Penang, Malaysia if you can show at least 400K baht (or equivalent in another currency) in a bank.

 

FYI, you can extend your current stay or future non 'O' entry by 60 days at your local immigration office. It's also possible to extend the current tourist visa entry by 30 days based on tourism and then 60 days to visit your son.

[elliott101]

10 hours ago, elviajero said:

The visa would be issued based on being a parent, not dependency.

 

You should also supply a copy of your sons house registration book.

 

You'll only get a single entry visa good for 90 days at most embassies/consulates. You might get a multiple entry visa at Penang, Malaysia if you can show at least 400K baht (or equivalent in another currency) in a bank.

 

FYI, you can extend your current stay or future non 'O' entry by 60 days at your local immigration office. It's also possible to extend the current tourist visa entry by 30 days based on tourism and then 60 days to visit your son.

Many thanks for the reply, 

 

My sons mother has said she won't allow him to go on the house registration book because of the chance of military service, 

 

Is there any way to get this visa without having his name on the house registration book?

 

thnaks for help

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, elliott101 said:

My sons mother has said she won't allow him to go on the house registration book because of the chance of military service, 

Is there any way to get this visa without having his name on the house registration book?

 

He will not be to able register in school and etc without being registered in a house book. It will be many years until there is a need to worry about the draft and things could be much different then.

Also not sure how he got Thai passport without being registered in house book.

I was under the impression that being registered in house book was a requirement to get a birth certificate.

The house book registry is a requirement to get a visa or a 60 day extension to visit your child.

[B1ade]

10 hours ago, elviajero said:

You'll only get a single entry visa good for 90 days at most embassies/consulates. You might get a multiple entry visa at Penang, Malaysia if you can show at least 400K baht (or equivalent in another currency) in a bank.

I am in a similar situation and going to penang in 2 weeks. I have birth cert, tabien baan etc. I have a kbank account with deposits over 40k baht per month for the past year, is that sufficient do you think? I already printed the statements out at kbank and they stamped everything. A single entry is ok, but I will try for the ME non-O, just want to give myself the best chance

[B1ade]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

 

I was under the impression that being registered in house book was a requirement to get a birth certificate.

I went to our local amphor yesterday here in Phuket to get my son on my condos house book / tabien baan, I already had the original birth certificate in-hand supplied by the hospital, so it was the other way round here.

[elviajero]

17 minutes ago, elliott101 said:

My sons mother has said she won't allow him to go on the house registration book because of the chance of military service, 

That wouldn't stop him getting drafted.

 

It's the law that he's registered at an address, and that he has an ID card from age seven. The former being a requirement to get the latter. 

 

He will have problems going through life without either being registered at an address or not having ID.

[elviajero]

10 minutes ago, B1ade said:

I went to our local amphor yesterday here in Phuket to get my son on my condos house book / tabien baan, I already had the original birth certificate in-hand supplied by the hospital, so it was the other way round here.

It's the same everywhere. The hospital issue a birth certificate which is needed before getting registered in a Tabien Baan.

[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, elviajero said:

It's the same everywhere. The hospital issue a birth certificate which is needed before getting registered in a Tabien Baan.

And a official Thai birth certificate with a Thai ID number on it.

[elviajero]

17 minutes ago, B1ade said:

I am in a similar situation and going to penang in 2 weeks. I have birth cert, tabien baan etc. I have a kbank account with deposits over 40k baht per month for the past year, is that sufficient do you think? I already printed the statements out at kbank and they stamped everything. A single entry is ok, but I will try for the ME non-O, just want to give myself the best chance

It would be worth checking with one of the Penang agents about the requirements for a ME non 'O', and/or paying them to submit the application.

 

I'm not sure if they will accept income and require at least 400K in the bank for a ME. If they do accept income I doubt they'd accept bank statements and would probably want a letter certifiying your income from your embassy.  The bank statements should be enough to get a letter from your embassy.

[elviajero]

20 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

And a official Thai birth certificate with a Thai ID number on it.

Yes.

[B1ade]

19 minutes ago, elviajero said:

It would be worth checking with one of the Penang agents about the requirements for a ME non 'O', and/or paying them to submit the application.

 

I'm not sure if they will accept income and require at least 400K in the bank for a ME. If they do accept income I doubt they'd accept bank statements and would probably want a letter certifiying your income from your embassy.  The bank statements should be enough to get a letter from your embassy.

Thats great thanks, was not sure if the statements would be sufficient, I think the nearest british embassy from phuiket is in bkk? so I will just get a single this time round I think

[elliott101]

On 15/02/2017 at 9:16 AM, ubonjoe said:

He will not be to able register in school and etc without being registered in a house book. It will be many years until there is a need to worry about the draft and things could be much different then.

Also not sure how he got Thai passport without being registered in house book.

I was under the impression that being registered in house book was a requirement to get a birth certificate.

The house book registry is a requirement to get a visa or a 60 day extension to visit your child.

We got his Thai birth certificate and passport from the embassy in London, i am planning to send him to an international school, 

in order to put his name in the house book, would we have to go to the amphoe where his mother is from?

Thanks 

[jokinha]

On 15/02/2017 at 9:16 AM, ubonjoe said:

He will not be to able register in school and etc without being registered in a house book. It will be many years until there is a need to worry about the draft and things could be much different then.

Also not sure how he got Thai passport without being registered in house book.

I was under the impression that being registered in house book was a requirement to get a birth certificate.

The house book registry is a requirement to get a visa or a 60 day extension to visit your child.

Also not sure how he got Thai passport without being registered in house book.

I was under the impression that being registered in house book was a requirement to get a birth certificate.

 

Hi joe this situation is possible if the child was born abroad from a thai mother...this was my case ... my youngest daughter was born in Portugal we got her registered at Lisbons' Thai Embassy she got her Thai birth certificate ( without the Thai ID number in it ) & at the same time we applied for her first Thai passport ...we were then told by the Consular staff that in order to complete the full Citizenship process we would have to get her registered on a Tabien Baan in Thailand so she could acquire the 13 digit Thai ID number...on our first trip to Thailand after that, we went to my girlfriends ( I am not married to my daughters mother ) local Amphur in Issan with her parents Tabien baan, daughters Thai Birth certificate issued by the Embassy , my passport and mothers Thai ID card; roughly one hour later we left the Amphur with all the paperwork done ( we were required to take the girls pictures and the Amphur staff had her data processed in a small book with notes...during the process and at a certain stage &  for some unknown reason they had to call the poyai baan to certify something )..anyway they registered the Thai ID number on the Birth certificate and she is already on a Tabien Baan meaning that she will be able to have her Thai ID card when she turns 7...

regards jokinha

[ubonjoe]

12 hours ago, elliott101 said:

We got his Thai birth certificate and passport from the embassy in London, i am planning to send him to an international school, 

in order to put his name in the house book, would we have to go to the amphoe where his mother is from?

Thanks 

I assumed your child was born here. It is a big difference when the child is born abroad.

The registration needs to be done at the Amphoe where the house book is for. It does not have to be the mother's house book.

The school will likely do the registration by showing his passport and birth certificate.

The registration in a house book will have to be done in order for him to get another passport.

 

 

[rama552]

How to change dependent visa to non-b visa. my wife got a job in thailand, but if she need to work the visa type should be changed to NON-B. At the current movement she stay in india but she hold dependent visa till aug2019.company is supporting for documents to apply non-b visa. Can i get visa based on this.

 

[JackThompson]

38 minutes ago, rama552 said:

How to change dependent visa to non-b visa. my wife got a job in thailand, but if she need to work the visa type should be changed to NON-B. At the current movement she stay in india but she hold dependent visa till aug2019.company is supporting for documents to apply non-b visa. Can i get visa based on this.

If your wife has a dependent-based Non-O Visa or extension, she can get a work-permit and work legally with this.  There would be no need to change to a Non-B / work-based visa/extension to work, in this case.

 

One advantage to this, is that if her job ended, she could continue to stay in Thailand as long as her Non-O type visa was valid.  If she changes to a Non-B Visa and then to an employment-based extension, her permission-to-stay would end the day her job ends.

 

But, if she switched to a Non-B Visa / employment-based extension, you could get a dependent-based permission of stay, from being her husband and supported by her income.   As your permit-to-stay would be based on hers, both of your permit-to-stays would end the day her job ends.

[elviajero]

5 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

If your wife has a dependent-based Non-O Visa or extension, she can get a work-permit and work legally with this.  There would be no need to change to a Non-B / work-based visa/extension to work, in this case.

There is no “dependent-based Non-O Visa or extension”.

 

His wife could only get a work permit and work legally with a Non ‘O’ visa if she is the parent of a Thai, which doesn’t appear to be the case.

 

8 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

But, if she switched to a Non-B Visa / employment-based extension, you could get a dependent-based permission of stay, from being her husband and supported by her income. 

She will need to switch to a Non ‘B’ visa and once she has extended her stay the OP can get an extension as her husband. Dependency doesn’t come in to it.

 

 

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

If your wife has a dependent-based Non-O Visa or extension, she can get a work-permit and work legally with this.  There would be no need to change to a Non-B / work-based visa/extension to work, in this case.

Most work permit offices would not accept a application with a non-o visa or extension as a dependent.

[elviajero]

42 minutes ago, rama552 said:

How to change dependent visa to non-b visa. my wife got a job in thailand, but if she need to work the visa type should be changed to NON-B. At the current movement she stay in india but she hold dependent visa till aug2019.company is supporting for documents to apply non-b visa. Can i get visa based on this.

 

You can get a Non ‘O’ visa, as her husband, off the back of your wife’s Non ‘B’ visa application.

[JackThompson]

3 minutes ago, elviajero said:

His wife could only get a work permit and work legally with a Non ‘O’ visa if she is the parent of a Thai, which doesn’t appear to be the case.

Interesting - I didn't know that.

 

3 minutes ago, elviajero said:

There is no “dependent-based Non-O Visa or extension”.

...

She will need to switch to a Non ‘B’ visa and once she has extended her stay the OP can get an extension as her husband. Dependency doesn’t come in to it.

I thought the basis for allowing one spouse to get the Non-O was, in part, that they were being supported by the Thai-employed spouse?

 

Or is the "dependent" term only used in the context of a stay granted to a non-Thai child who has a qualified parent?

[elviajero]

18 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

I thought the basis for allowing one spouse to get the Non-O was, in part, that they were being supported by the Thai-employed spouse?

No. Whether they are financially dependent or not doesn’t come in to it.

 

The extension is issued on the basis of being a family member of a foreigner with permission to stay.