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Kindergarten children take part in Muay Thai boxing competition

By The Nation

 

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Kindergarten children joined some older athletes in a Muay Thai boxing contest on Friday at a temporary arena in Tambon Ram of Surin’s Muang district.

 

The 20-match contest, joined by male and female amateur Muay Thai boxers aged from five to 50 years old, was part of the 23rd “Ram Cup” annual seven-sport competition. 

 

The competition, held from March 22 to 31, was part of the campaign against drugs, to promote constructive spending of free time, promote exercise, teamwork and residents’ unity. 

 

Fourteen villages sent their athletes to contest in a football match for male youths, a football match for women, a football match for the elderly, volleyball matches for women, Sepak Takraw matches for men, Petanque sessions for mixed teams, and Muay Thai.

 

The highlight of the Muay Thai contest was a match between two six-year-old boys with no stage fighting experience. Blue corner boxer, Ban Boromsuk School kindergartener Thanadech Sangkoranee, who went by the stage name “Yok Morakot”, was defeated by Ban Prasitthanu School pupil Pakorn “Big Beam Sid-JL” Passada.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30310934

 
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4 hours ago, mogandave said:

 


Why do you say don't wear head-gear?

 

 

Because as you can see in the video, they don't wear headgear.

 

The specific aim of this alleged "sport" is to injure/incapacitate another individual.  The damage is not an accidental side effect, it is the sole aim.  It's not about fastest, longest, highest.........it's about hurting somebody else.

 

The gloves are not worn to protect the object of intended injury, they are worn to protect the fists of the attacker.

 

The surface injuries which occur on the face of the attacked (even with the wearing of gloves) are insignificant in terms of permanent/long term effects.

 

The worst and most damaging injuries (brain damage) are caused by the violent rotation of the skull, when the inertia of the brain causes it to remain stationary while the skull rotates:

 

Diffuse axonal injury - Wikipedia

"It usually results from rotational forces or severe deceleration"

 

Uppercuts and hooks (which cause the skull to rotate most violently) are the ones which cause most damage.  Jabs very rarely cause enough damage to render the attacked unconscious (a "knockout").

 

The wearing of gloves in no way moderates or reduces those brain damaging injuries

 

I adore sport. I can no longer stomach boxing. Here's why 

"Boxing gloves don’t protect the person being hit. Quite the opposite: the padding protects the fist from damage and lets you hit much harder. A padded fist is a lethal weapon. Headguards worn for sparring and for amateur bouts (as in the Olympics) don’t protect boxers from concussion: they make the target area larger and exaggerate the torsional effect of a glancing blow."

 

Its not a sport, it's just a legal "punch up"......for the delight of primitive, bloodthirsty savages.

 

And it's something that you want to perpetrate upon children?

 

The only difference between it and child pornography is that one is legal and the other is not.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Enoon said:

 

Because as you can see in the video, they don't wear headgear.

 

The specific aim of this alleged "sport" is to injure/incapacitate another individual.  The damage is not an accidental side effect, it is the sole aim.  It's not about fastest, longest, highest.........it's about hurting somebody else.

 

The gloves are not worn to protect the object of intended injury, they are worn to protect the fists of the attacker.

 

The surface injuries which occur on the face of the attacked (even with the wearing of gloves) are insignificant in terms of permanent/long term effects.

 

The worst and most damaging injuries (brain damage) are caused by the violent rotation of the skull, when the inertia of the brain causes it to remain stationary while the skull rotates:

 

Diffuse axonal injury - Wikipedia

"It usually results from rotational forces or severe deceleration"

 

Uppercuts and hooks (which cause the skull to rotate most violently) are the ones which cause most damage.  Jabs very rarely cause enough damage to render the attacked unconscious (a "knockout").

 

The wearing of gloves in no way moderates or reduces those brain damaging injuries

 

I adore sport. I can no longer stomach boxing. Here's why 

"Boxing gloves don’t protect the person being hit. Quite the opposite: the padding protects the fist from damage and lets you hit much harder. A padded fist is a lethal weapon. Headguards worn for sparring and for amateur bouts (as in the Olympics) don’t protect boxers from concussion: they make the target area larger and exaggerate the torsional effect of a glancing blow."

 

Its not a sport, it's just a legal "punch up"......for the delight of primitive, bloodthirsty savages.

 

And it's something that you want to perpetrate upon children?

 

The only difference between it and child pornography is that one is legal and the other is not.

 

 

 

 

Well  put:thumbsup:

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Because as you can see in the video, they don't wear headgear.
 
The specific aim of this alleged "sport" is to injure/incapacitate another individual.  The damage is not an accidental side effect, it is the sole aim.  It's not about fastest, longest, highest.........it's about hurting somebody else.
 
The gloves are not worn to protect the object of intended injury, they are worn to protect the fists of the attacker.
 
The surface injuries which occur on the face of the attacked (even with the wearing of gloves) are insignificant in terms of permanent/long term effects.
 
The worst and most damaging injuries (brain damage) are caused by the violent rotation of the skull, when the inertia of the brain causes it to remain stationary while the skull rotates:
 
Diffuse axonal injury - Wikipedia
"It usually results from rotational forces or severe deceleration"
 
Uppercuts and hooks (which cause the skull to rotate most violently) are the ones which cause most damage.  Jabs very rarely cause enough damage to render the attacked unconscious (a "knockout").
 
The wearing of gloves in no way moderates or reduces those brain damaging injuries
 
I adore sport. I can no longer stomach boxing. Here's why 
"Boxing gloves don’t protect the person being hit. Quite the opposite: the padding protects the fist from damage and lets you hit much harder. A padded fist is a lethal weapon. Headguards worn for sparring and for amateur bouts (as in the Olympics) don’t protect boxers from concussion: they make the target area larger and exaggerate the torsional effect of a glancing blow."
 
Its not a sport, it's just a legal "punch up"......for the delight of primitive, bloodthirsty savages.
 
And it's something that you want to perpetrate upon children?
 
The only difference between it and child pornography is that one is legal and the other is not.
 
 
 
 


The video is not related to the article. I think they should wear head gear, and the limited number of bouts I have seen they do. They also (from what I've seen) don't wear standard gloves but rather wear oversized gloves.

I don't think kicking a ball around for two hours to score one point is a sport, whatever.
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11 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 


The video is not related to the article. I think they should wear head gear, and the limited number of bouts I have seen they do. They also (from what I've seen) don't wear standard gloves but rather wear oversized gloves.

I don't think kicking a ball around for two hours to score one point is a sport, whatever.

 

you seriously  think its ok for 6 year olds to smash each other in the head..................words  fail me, as for it not being the video thats  correct BUT the point is its clearly  showing Thai kids of 6 fighting with no protection regardless and Ill wager this is the norm ...........oh  hang  one  has a lucky magic  rope round his head................yeah it  all makes sense  now

I seriously  think it should be made  illegal its disgusting and child abuse, go on to 5minutes 16 for the knockout or 2  minutes in the second  video oh but wait these are 7 year  olds so thats even more acceptable, all harmless fun eh...one  of  many  videos available on youtube

 

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you seriously  think its ok for 6 year olds to smash each other in the head..................words  fail me, as for it not being the video thats  correct BUT the point is its clearly  showing Thai kids of 6 fighting with no protection regardless and Ill wager this is the norm ...........oh  hang  one  has a lucky magic  rope round his head................yeah it  all makes sense  now
I seriously  think it should be made  illegal its disgusting and child abuse, go on to 5minutes 16 for the knockout or 2  minutes in the second  video oh but wait these are 7 year  olds so thats even more acceptable, all harmless fun eh...one  of  many  videos available on youtube
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Again, as indicated previously, I think they should be wearing head gear.

If betting is not legal and yet still do it, how is it making boxing illegal going to stop it?
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To be clear, I do not support children being abused, brutalized and exploited for financial gain or any reason, but I see nothing wrong with an amateur boxing program.

I've seen the results of an over-zealous father that virtually crippled his boy thinking he was going to make him a great pitcher, but I don't to stop kids from playing baseball.




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55 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Why would I want kids to mate? You're disgusting.

 

 

You are one of those posters/ That is one way of not answering a question in order to defend a position. 

 

Simply, you can put whatever caveats on the 'sporting'  enterprise you like Dave, but sending six years into that type of physical, adversarial contest is not safe guarding their futures. They are unable to understand boxing better skills and will socialise aspects of  it poorly.

 

It is pathetic to defend this.

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You are one of those posters/ That is one way of not answering a question in order to defend a position. 
 
Simply, you can put whatever caveats on the 'sporting'  enterprise you like Dave, but sending six years into that type of physical, adversarial contest is not safe guarding their futures. They are unable to understand boxing better skills and will socialise aspects of  it poorly.
 
It is pathetic to defend this.


I have a son, but I see no need use him to add credibility to my argument.

I am not clear what your last sentence is saying.
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Children aged 5 through 15, are not able to separate the lessons in boxing from life. Nor is their developmental condition, physically, emotionally and psychologically attuned for this engagement.

 

That is a position on topic.

 

I suggest views which support muay thai for six year olds as the article notes, constitute poorly formed views and are not comparable to other instances of rogue parenting such as your baseball example. 

 

Hopefully all parents share safe, positive and caring ambitions for all children. I do not see how this can be reconciled with the muay thai contest at this age. That, Dave, should not need to be so clearly spelled out for you when when most get it immediately. Hence 'pathetic'.

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5 hours ago, kannot said:

you seriously  think its ok for 6 year olds to smash each other in the head..................words  fail me, as for it not being the video thats  correct BUT the point is its clearly  showing Thai kids of 6 fighting with no protection regardless and Ill wager this is the norm ...........oh  hang  one  has a lucky magic  rope round his head................yeah it  all makes sense  now

I seriously  think it should be made  illegal its disgusting and child abuse, go on to 5minutes 16 for the knockout or 2  minutes in the second  video oh but wait these are 7 year  olds so thats even more acceptable, all harmless fun eh...one  of  many  videos available on youtube

Agree. IMHO boxing in any form is violence, even if there are rules,

 

At this age how can these little guys differentiate between boxing and fighting? Seems to me this teaches youngsters that fighting is normal / is a way to solve things.

 

From a totally different perspective, I saw a lot of awful heartbreaking violence and destruction of human beings (male, female and kids) in my tour of duty in Vietnam and I still have nightmares about it today. This changed my view of violence (no matter how you try and package it) to a personal non-violent non-aggressive confrontational philosophy.

 

I really would prefer to see society condemn any form of violence.

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3 hours ago, G Marks said:

Utterly wrong.  I love fight sports and have been a martial artist most of my life, smacking a developing brain though.......... a dumb idea!

Agree totally, been doing martial arts since I was a 5 myself, but full contact Muay Thai at 6 seems a bit much. I was boxing at the police boys when was 8 but you werent allowed to full contact spar or have a fight till you were 10. For those that dont like ring sports there is no answer. Talking about hitting a developing brain is moot. Many champion boxers were at their first Olympics at 17. IMO if you havent started by 12-14 (and earlier)  your chances are slim of ever accomplishing anything in a ring sport and in Thailand they start even younger. Not condoning it, but it what it is, it will not change.

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