GPThai Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Living since 2013 in Thailand, I decided to buy a condominium unit in Phuket area. The developer did not deliver the project on time... and, as of today, refuses to reimburse the advance payments we made. Under the argument that they are having a legal dispute with the land owner and this must be solved first. What is the best way to force them to fulfill their contractual obligations ? - police complaint - lawyer - Phuket governor offices - central Bangkok authorities - ... Thanks for your return of experience if any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 All the above, plus national media (especially if you have formed some sort of buyers action group that is prepared to wave banners outside of the developer's office and the offices of local officials), plus the Office of Consumer Protection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUNCHER Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Was this the Emerald Nirvana? Nearly bought because it looked a good project until I discovered the developer only had an option to buy the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPThai Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 This is EMERALD Ao Nang project in Krabi Concerning lawyers, are some recommended (and some: not) in Phuket / Krabi ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 It will take many years if not resolved quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elgordo38 Posted May 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2017 Again fortifies my thinking never buy nothin here. The lawyer leeches come crawling out of the woodwork and make money everyone else looses. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, NormanW said: It will take many years if not resolved quickly. Just like a bad marriage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 TIt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 sorry to hear of your loss ..... TIT ... caveat emptor ..... Happened recently in Bangkok .... expats lost their money ... developer shut shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Sad to hear about your plight.... The road you face is long and lonely with many distractions along the way, you face it alone, with many holes. Do what you must to get to your destination and ultimately accept, sadly your loss. All the best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borzandy Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 23 hours ago, GPThai said: Under the argument that they are having a legal dispute with the land owner and this must be solved first. The developer didn't pay the land and the land owner never been asked to sell it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Foozool Posted May 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2017 I guess they have a good excuse for not giving back your money. I'm not sure what actually could be the real issue with the land owner, but seems it is not easy to get the money back since the problem not caused by the developer. I wish you patients. Personally , I hate buying what does not exist. Paying in advance to these wolves who want to gamble by your money is not a good idea. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted May 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Borzandy said: The developer didn't pay the land and the land owner never been asked to sell it... who's to say the land owner and developer didn't plan this .... TIT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, steven100 said: who's to say the land owner and developer didn't plan this .... TIT From Chruncher's post this very clearly the case, since the developer has at least 2 projects with the same issue. Here you find a 24/4/2017 update on the second project which seemingly started in 2014, and so far nothing has happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, janclaes47 said: From Chruncher's post this very clearly the case, since the developer has at least 2 projects with the same issue. Here you find a 24/4/2017 update on the second project which seemingly started in 2014, and so far nothing has happened yet. interesting ..... if thats the case ..... I would be sorry to say GPthai .... forget about your money .... the reality is it's gone ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 GPthai ... sorry for your loss .... how much was put in ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Take a good Lawyer. Everything else is waste of Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, ujayujay said: Take a good Lawyer. Everything else is waste of Time. put more money in to chase money you'll never see ...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, steven100 said: put more money in to chase money you'll never see ...... If you think, this case will get solved for freeOK?!?! ....so you really think, Police, Governor Office or Bangkok Authority will help? They don't do nothing. A good Lawyer will help you to get the Money back. In case of a trail the guilt have to cover the process cost as well as the legal costs. This is also practice here in thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, ujayujay said: If you think, this case will get solved for freeOK?!?! ....so you really think, Police, Governor Office or Bangkok Authority will help? They don't do nothing. A good Lawyer will help you to get the Money back. In case of a trail the guilt have to cover the process cost as well as the legal costs. This is also practice here in thailand. that's what i'm saying ... chances are OP will never see his money again .... unfortunately ... you don't understand comic english obviously ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza73 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 2 hours ago, elgordo38 said: Again fortifies my thinking never buy nothin here. The lawyer leeches come crawling out of the woodwork and make money everyone else looses. Careful now. You'll have all the "owners" who think we are too cash-strapped to buy a condo unit on your case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJJIIIMMM Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 we had a similar problem by the sounds of it. The wife and i went to the local police station and offered them a cut if they could help. they were straight on the phone and rounded the guy up, and we were sat opposite him in the police station the next morning. we ended up getting half of our money back, and paid the police less than 10 % of the money retrieved. half was better than nothing. we tried the court route initially but was expensive and slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, JJJIIIMMM said: we had a similar problem by the sounds of it. The wife and i went to the local police station and offered them a cut if they could help. they were straight on the phone and rounded the guy up, and we were sat opposite him in the police station the next morning. we ended up getting half of our money back, and paid the police less than 10 % of the money retrieved. half was better than nothing. we tried the court route initially but was expensive and slow you really think it's that simple ... just get the local police to fix it all .... your dreaming ... this is alot harder than that ..... ' oh yeah mr policeman, we'll come down and chat and give the money back ' sorry ... but that's just unrealistic ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Hate to laugh but just have to check a little further before handing over any monies, You paid a developer a deposit when they did not own the land Get a new lawyer. Good luck though with any retrieval but do not hold your breath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJJIIIMMM Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, steven100 said: you really think it's that simple ... just get the local police to fix it all .... your dreaming ... this is alot harder than that ..... ' oh yeah mr policeman, we'll come down and chat and give the money back ' sorry ... but that's just unrealistic ... it is what happened to us. after three months going through the courts, we gave up and went to the cop shop. i told my wife offer them 25%, but she offered them a much lower amount, unbeknown to me people are scared of the cops remember....... especially dodgy people...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 5 hours ago, steven100 said: put more money in to chase money you'll never see ...... After politicians/governments the judiciary and property developers lawyers are the next most despised thing on my list. Always there to feed on the leftovers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulwell53 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 9 hours ago, elgordo38 said: Again fortifies my thinking never buy nothin here. The lawyer leeches come crawling out of the woodwork and make money everyone else looses. Ye gods it didnt take long before the thread descended into thai bashing Surprise surprise a condo development fails before completion and people lose deposits. Again the usual suspects would have us believe unscrupulous developers and dodgy developments happen only in thailand. They are commonplace in the us, uk, oz in fact all over the west. You are always taking a risk with such investments. Why turn these instances into thai bashing exercises. Disgraceful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulwell53 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 5 hours ago, steven100 said: you really think it's that simple ... just get the local police to fix it all .... your dreaming ... this is alot harder than that ..... ' oh yeah mr policeman, we'll come down and chat and give the money back ' sorry ... but that's just unrealistic ... The old saying ( paraphrased ) Nothing is easier to separate than a fool from his money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Fulwell53 said: Ye gods it didnt take long before the thread descended into thai bashing Surprise surprise a condo development fails before completion and people lose deposits. Again the usual suspects would have us believe unscrupulous developers and dodgy developments happen only in thailand. They are commonplace in the us, uk, oz in fact all over the west. You are always taking a risk with such investments. Why turn these instances into thai bashing exercises. Disgraceful Your not living in the us uk oz your living here. Posting here pertains to here. Here is where the interest lies not abroad. Coming from abroad I cannot remember the fraud on condo developments even coming close to here. Hub of?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericthai Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 8 hours ago, ujayujay said: If you think, this case will get solved for freeOK?!?! ....so you really think, Police, Governor Office or Bangkok Authority will help? They don't do nothing. A good Lawyer will help you to get the Money back. In case of a trail the guilt have to cover the process cost as well as the legal costs. This is also practice here in thailand. They way things look I would not be surprised the company planned all of this and will file bankruptcy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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