webfact Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Bangkok buses to finally get ticket machines. here’s how they work By Sasiwan Mokkhasen, Staff Reporter A prototype Mangmoom card reader is displayed Thursday. BANGKOK — Steely conductors rattling coin collectors and palming torn paper tickets may not be long for Bangkok’s buses. Two types of ticketing systems will be installed on about 100 metro buses by October, according to the Bangkok Mass Transit Authority, or BMTA. One will sell bus tickets while the other will read the Mangmoom cards which one day will work for all of the capital’s public transportation. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/transpo/2017/06/19/bangkok-buses-finally-get-ticket-machines-heres-work/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2017-06-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 What will happen to the toll takers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Good news, welcome to the modern world. Better late than never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setbkk Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 100 buses out of the many thousands in Bangkok. I do not expect to see such a device on the buses anytime soon. The toll takers will probably remain employed helping people work the new device which will probably be counter-intuitive. Mangmoom cards already a year behind schedule on BTS/MRT/ARL. Hard to believe we will see functional terminals on buses anytime soon. Great ideal to have one card for all public transit. But the devil is in the details. I'm not holding my breath, especially when "good" systems like BTS don't have machines that accept paper money nor do they have change machines. Zillions of people without Rabbit cards lining up for change or to use the machines - are these people really going to get a Mangmoom card??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, setbkk said: 100 buses out of the many thousands in Bangkok. I do not expect to see such a device on the buses anytime soon. The toll takers will probably remain employed helping people work the new device which will probably be counter-intuitive. Mangmoom cards already a year behind schedule on BTS/MRT/ARL. Hard to believe we will see functional terminals on buses anytime soon. Great ideal to have one card for all public transit. But the devil is in the details. I'm not holding my breath, especially when "good" systems like BTS don't have machines that accept paper money nor do they have change machines. Zillions of people without Rabbit cards lining up for change or to use the machines - are these people really going to get a Mangmoom card??? just another example of puzzling behaviour here; why do so many people prefer to queue to but tickets every time they want to use the bts or mrt rather than have a rabbit card and breeze past the queues. in the rush hour and at weekends the queues can be horrendous at some stations. i rarely use the bts or mrt but it's common sense to have a rabbit card. so will people bother getting a hassle and time saving Mangmoom card? i'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 5 hours ago, setbkk said: 100 buses out of the many thousands in Bangkok. I do not expect to see such a device on the buses anytime soon. The toll takers will probably remain employed helping people work the new device which will probably be counter-intuitive. Mangmoom cards already a year behind schedule on BTS/MRT/ARL. Hard to believe we will see functional terminals on buses anytime soon. Great ideal to have one card for all public transit. But the devil is in the details. I'm not holding my breath, especially when "good" systems like BTS don't have machines that accept paper money nor do they have change machines. Zillions of people without Rabbit cards lining up for change or to use the machines - are these people really going to get a Mangmoom card??? On Mo-chit bts station there's a machine which accepts billiets to sell tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwisailor Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Will be like the taxi ticket dispensers at the airport - each one will require an operator to press the buttons!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyrobot Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I like the ticket ladies gives them a job and they advise you when the bus is approaching each stop. No street food , no ticket ladies all big shopping centres and condo being built, getting more like Singapore ,very sterile, no atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 And no doubt, in common with every other newly installed piece of simple technology, in every other retail outlet, there will be a conductor present, who has undergone special training in how the machines work, to explain to passengers, one by one, what to do - while the queue grows ever longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I see passengers that can barely handle coins for fare. And now they have to deal with a ticket dispensing system? Maybe former collectors will operate the ticket equipment. Which must be different than the electronic one shown - how are bills and change handled? Backup from the ticket collectors? Going to be long waits at bus stops to get on. PS: no more senior discount fares? Not shown as a class of ticket on the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeCeDe Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hmm, the machines look like they're worth more than the buses I use in my neck of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakegeneve Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 14 hours ago, setbkk said: 100 buses out of the many thousands in Bangkok. I do not expect to see such a device on the buses anytime soon. The toll takers will probably remain employed helping people work the new device which will probably be counter-intuitive. Mangmoom cards already a year behind schedule on BTS/MRT/ARL. Hard to believe we will see functional terminals on buses anytime soon. Great ideal to have one card for all public transit. But the devil is in the details. I'm not holding my breath, especially when "good" systems like BTS don't have machines that accept paper money nor do they have change machines. Zillions of people without Rabbit cards lining up for change or to use the machines - are these people really going to get a Mangmoom card??? A common ticketing platform was first promised to be introduced in 2009! So the delay is much more than a year......... The underlying concept of encouraging people to purchase a Rabbit card/stored value multiple journey card is to ensure that they are incentivised to do so by experiencing long lines and wasting time to purchase a single journey ticket. Show me a transport system anywhere in the world that doesn't operate with this same principal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakegeneve Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 23 hours ago, tonray said: What will happen to the toll takers ? They will be put out to pasture! After the transition period where conductors will be used to assist pax, according to the BMTA, a combination of retirement, new duties (eg. card topping up kiosks) and upgrades will take care of the conductors. The BMTA is planning to reduce staff as part of reducing its huge debt- over $2 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 25 minutes ago, Lakegeneve said: They will be put out to pasture! After the transition period where conductors will be used to assist pax, according to the BMTA, a combination of retirement, new duties (eg. card topping up kiosks) and upgrades will take care of the conductors. The BMTA is planning to reduce staff as part of reducing its huge debt- over $2 billion. A lot of the ticket takers in some cases related to the drivers as the drivers actually own or lease the individual buses. Strange system I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake333 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 On 6/19/2017 at 9:42 PM, balo said: Good news, welcome to the modern world. Better late than never. What's so good about the modern world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodknock Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 when the rabbit card was coming out it was supposed to be good for the mrt also, NOT just another plan not planed well. this will fall on it's nose and they will try and blame someone!!!!!!!!! just give it time who gets the brown bags now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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