webfact Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 U.S. urges power-sharing deal in Northern Ireland Sinn Fein President, Gerry Adams, joins demonstrators participating in the ‘March For Marriage,’ demanding equal marriage legislation in Northern Ireland, in Belfast, Northern Ireland, July 1, 2017. REUTERS/Clodagh Kilcoyn WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Wednesday urged Northern Ireland's two major political parties to reach an agreement for a power-sharing government, after talks broke down on Tuesday between Sinn Fein and the Democratic Unionist Party. State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said in a statement that the "United States regrets that the political parties in Northern Ireland have not yet reached an agreement to establish a power-sharing regional government following elections in March." She urged the DUP and Sinn Fein "to continue their discussions with the aim of forming an effective, responsive, and representative government as soon as possible." (Reporting by Yeganeh Torbati; Editing by Peter Cooney) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-07-06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caps Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Maybe the US should sort out its own problems before butting its nose into others countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Caps said: Maybe the US should sort out its own problems before butting its nose into others countries. maybe so, but they just might do better in the north of UK than in the middle east and afg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caps Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Just now, melvinmelvin said: maybe so, but they just might do better in the north of UK than in the middle east and afg. debatable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResandePohm Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 The US was always part of the problem in N Ireland by allowing their citizens to finance and fund the IRA. They should keep their nose out of it and sort out the divisions in their own country caused largely by their POTUS. Or maybe the British Government should be giving them advice which I am sure will be welcomed by them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardrunner Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 anything that ensures that the good Friday agreement succeeds should be welcomed with open arms, anything that stops the sectarian violence restarting must be a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 1 hour ago, ResandePohm said: The US was always part of the problem in N Ireland by allowing their citizens to finance and fund the IRA. They should keep their nose out of it and sort out the divisions in their own country caused largely by their POTUS. Or maybe the British Government should be giving them advice which I am sure will be welcomed by them That's true. NORAID was responsible for providing large amounts of money to the Provisional IRA. And members of the IRA traveled freely to the US. All that changed when President Bush declared the US war on terrorism. And remarkably the Provisional IRA suddenly wanted to negotiate more rather than simply demand. Bill Clinton, for all his faults, played a significant role in the peace process. America has contributed in several ways to helping the peace process in Northern Ireland. Only criticism is they took too long to recognize the Provisional IRA as terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: America has contributed in several ways to helping the peace process in Northern Ireland. Only criticism is they took too long to recognize the Provisional IRA as terrorists. As did the Brits in the case of the RUC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: As did the Brits in the case of the RUC. RUC - Royal Ulster Constabulary. Fighting terrorists can't be done under Queensbury Rules old chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: RUC - Royal Ulster Constabulary. Fighting terrorists can't be done under Queensbury Rules old chap. Nor can fighting thugs - whether or not they are employed by the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Just now, ilostmypassword said: Nor can fighting thugs - whether or not they are employed by the government. Alas, the occasional bad egg get's in everywhere. But, blowing up innocent women, children, and men; murdering people at will, for whatever reasons requires dealing with and using extra ordinary measures if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Just now, Baerboxer said: Alas, the occasional bad egg get's in everywhere. But, blowing up innocent women, children, and men; murdering people at will, for whatever reasons requires dealing with and using extra ordinary measures if needed. As did the indecent treatment of Northern Ireland's catholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said: As did the indecent treatment of Northern Ireland's catholics. Which is why the British Army originally went in - to protect the catholics who had little confidence in the police doing so. But a terrorist group, as they often do, exploited that for their own reasons. Not all of which are political or to protect people. How many years were you there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgent Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 so here we have it no wonder the two main parties in the north can,t agree when we have two TV members with divided opinions. just a thought were would the North be now if the IRA had not intervened ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) Well done Conservative party. It wasn't enough to split the mainland in two with your vote grabbing (from UKIP) promise of a referendum. Now you place the DUP at the very heart of British government, with the inevitable consequences for Ulster, in your immoral, destructive, utterly self-seeking desperation to cling to power. Soon be back to "normal" in Britains very own "restive province". Edited July 6, 2017 by Enoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, oldgent said: so here we have it no wonder the two main parties in the north can,t agree when we have two TV members with divided opinions. just a thought were would the North be now if the IRA had not intervened ? The dispute revealing itself in these pages is but a taste of things to come in Ulster itself. Thank you once again Conservatives. Edited July 6, 2017 by Enoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickudon Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Well, they were not agreeing even before the election. Afterwards, the real unionists lost all their seats and you only have 2 extreme parties based on opposing religious sects, Bringing the DUP into the ruling government didn't help though. The elephant in the room is that there are now more Catholics than Protestants in Northern Ireland. But less Catholic voters. Sooner or later, Sinn Fein will BE the government there. Best for the UK to start thinking about when to walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgent Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Enoon said: The dispute revealing itself in these pages is but a taste of things to come in Ulster itself. Thank you once again Conservatives. are you suggesting that the north is going back to the bad old days. the problem is they don,t have proper people with knowledge of politics what they have is loud mouthed jumped up self appointed back street people who use the bigots to keep them in power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachdude Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 So what about the loyalist death squads , the UVF , UDA, Red Hand Commandos, The Glenane Gang , et al? The bigotry, sectarianism and deprivation of basic human rights to the nationalists in the north of Ireland are what gave rise to the troubles and the massive support for the republican movement not only in the northeast of the island but around the world including the USA , AUstralia and elsewhere. Perhaps if the people of the UK were not indifferent and apathetic to the situation there decades of bloodshed could have been avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgent Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 25 minutes ago, Beachdude said: So what about the loyalist death squads , the UVF , UDA, Red Hand Commandos, The Glenane Gang , et al? The bigotry, sectarianism and deprivation of basic human rights to the nationalists in the north of Ireland are what gave rise to the troubles and the massive support for the republican movement not only in the northeast of the island but around the world including the USA , AUstralia and elsewhere. Perhaps if the people of the UK were not indifferent and apathetic to the situation there decades of bloodshed could have been avoided. don,t forget the late Mrs Thatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caps Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Baerboxer said: How many years were you there? If i were to hazard a guess I would say he did None. Its far better/safer/easier being a keyboard warrior. Having worked with the RUC very closely in the 3.5 years I spent there I found them to be very professional and brave doing a difficult job and I worked with catholics in the RUC Edited July 6, 2017 by Caps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgent Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Caps said: If i were to hazard a guess I would say he did None. Its far better/safer/easier being a keyboard warrior. Having worked with the RUC very closely in the 3.5 years I spent there I found them to be very professional and brave doing a difficult job and I worked with catholics in the RUC i would guess you were there in the time of the British army i think the Ref.. to the RUC in post 8 he was referring to the early days when they misshandled the peace marches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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