Thailand's former PM Thaksin breaks silence on Twitter

[halloween]

38 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

Whoa there...!   let's not let a few facts spoil the insinuation huh?

 

Thaksin founded AIS etc. long before he joined politics (in 1994). He was greedy and unethical, no doubt, but probably the same as every other politician. He also did much good in Thailand, particularly for the poor who love him still. Who else has ever even attempted to help them?  Yingluck and that's about it. Anyway past is past and Thailand needs a new direction neither red nor yellow.

 

 

What does it matter if his corruption began well before he was elected? He was B50 million in debt before his first big corruption win with police computers, he was "given" a 20 year monopoly on mobile phone services that could have been sold for billions, and overcharged as only a monopoly can. THEN he changed his corruption from private sector to public.

[LannaGuy]

3 minutes ago, halloween said:

What does it matter if his corruption began well before he was elected? He was B50 million in debt before his first big corruption win with police computers, he was "given" a 20 year monopoly on mobile phone services that could have been sold for billions, and overcharged as only a monopoly can. THEN he changed his corruption from private sector to public.

 

Because the poster insinuated 'how could a copper get so much dosh'?  and there is NO known connection so I made that clear in my normal wistful, amusing yet eloquent style   

[maxpower]

1 hour ago, Muggi1968 said:

And he have a garantee they will use the money to buy mobile phones, subscriptions and tele communication equipment from his company...
(Like in gooooddddd old days)

Its called win win. Now we have win lose. 5

[halloween]

8 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

 

Because the poster insinuated 'how could a copper get so much dosh'?  and there is NO known connection so I made that clear in my normal wistful, amusing yet eloquent style   

Actually the connection is quite clear and well known - failed businessman, corrupt copper, corrupt businessman, corrupt politician, corrupt fugitive criminal still using government as a source of wealth and personal benefit.

[maxpower]

24 minutes ago, halloween said:

What does it matter if his corruption began well before he was elected? He was B50 million in debt before his first big corruption win with police computers, he was "given" a 20 year monopoly on mobile phone services that could have been sold for billions, and overcharged as only a monopoly can. THEN he changed his corruption from private sector to public.

Sounds like business 101.

[LannaGuy]

10 minutes ago, halloween said:

Actually the connection is quite clear and well known - failed businessman, corrupt copper, corrupt businessman, corrupt politician, corrupt fugitive criminal still using government as a source of wealth and personal benefit.

 

General he was not and would have been if corrupt giant he was  (to quote Yoda)

[craigt3365]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

"Montesquieu once said 'There is no crueler tyranny than that which is perpetuated under the shield of law and in the name of justice'," Thaksin said on his official Twitter page.

Isn't that what got him in trouble? Tyranny (corruption) perpetrated under the shield of law (government mafia)? In the name  of  helping the poor people out? LOL

[Cadbury]

2 hours ago, greenchair said:

Well said. 

And absolute power breeds absolute corruption as we will see in the years to come. 

I agree entirely with your comment. The question is how more absolute could corruption in Thailand get from where it is at the present time? Has the level of corruption in Thailand peaked or has it still a way to go to get to an optimal level that the economy can live with without completely tipping over.

[craigt3365]

1 hour ago, LannaGuy said:

 

Because the poster insinuated 'how could a copper get so much dosh'?  and there is NO known connection so I made that clear in my normal wistful, amusing yet eloquent style   

So you are saying he wasn't corrupt? Knowing full well how corrupt the police are. Or are you saying there is no evidence? Had to have been some as he fled the country he ruled! LOL

[zaphod reborn]

1 hour ago, LannaGuy said:

 

Ah 'unlawfully' whereas the Junta did it 'lawfully'?  

The junta immunized themselves, they did not attempt to grant amnesty to a convict.  Do you see the difference, or are your rose-tinted glasses actually red?

[Somtamnication]

Can't agree more with the <deleted> tweet. 

[seminomadic]

1 hour ago, hansnl said:

They were democratically elected to form a government for ALL the people, not only those that voted for them.

But that is quite missing in all elected politicians.

 

Thank you for reminding me that some people posting on this forum have absolutely zero understanding of Thai culture no matter how long they've been here; of how power is gotten and wielded. What kind of person do you think runs for office in Southeast Asia?

[Matt199]

54 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

 

VPN first and I'm surprised no mod has spotted you quoting that title. Lot's sites out there via... 

you're correct. Cannot edit my post anymore though.

[Reigntax]

2 hours ago, hansnl said:

They were democratically elected to form a government for ALL the people, not only those that voted for them.

But that is quite missing in all elected politicians.

 

And definately missing in all self appointed pretend PM's.

[sweatalot]

One thing for sure: when he opens his mouth lies come out

[sjaak327]

18 minutes ago, zaphod reborn said:

The junta immunized themselves, they did not attempt to grant amnesty to a convict.  Do you see the difference, or are your rose-tinted glasses actually red?

I can see the difference, what the junta did is massively worse. A criminal is a criminal, convicted or not. 

[johng]

Forbes estimated the Thaksin Shinawatra fortune at one billion seven hundred million Bahts
every cents  sorry Bahts  of  it he earned honestly of course ... starting his career as a police officer 

Just like the > 600 million (unmentionable) wealth of
"the democratic soldier" ? ?

[Dumbastheycome]

3 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

And Reuters again post unbalanced reports, no comment on the fact that his conviction is for serious abuse of authority and no connection whatever to politics. 

Or even that by exiling himself he also avoided numerous  other legitimate charges involving serious matters.

IMO tyranny  is a word Thaksin should avoid  quoting in any circumstance! 

[Ron19]

A post commenting on royalty has been removed.

 

1) You will not express disrespect of the King of Thailand or any one member of the Thai royal family, whether living or deceased, nor to criticize the monarchy as an institution.

[jvs]

2 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

How right he is.  No precedents, No juries and vindictive against those of different colour. He was no angel, she was no angel but they were democratically elected by the people, for the people. 

No votes were bought?

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, greenchair said:

Well said. 

And absolute power breeds absolute corruption as we will see in the years to come. 

 

And it was/is absolute power that this serial criminal also craves. 

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, sjaak327 said:

I can see the difference, what the junta did is massively worse. A criminal is a criminal, convicted or not. 

 

That may be or may not be. But either way, it doesn't change the fact Thaksin is a convicted criminal with some very serious charges outstanding too. 

 

So you don't subscribe to the view innocent till proven guilty then? Prefer trial by media? A criminal becomes a criminal when convicted surely?

Edited August 30, 2017 by Baerboxer

[Ron19]

By both sides.?

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[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, halloween said:

Actually the connection is quite clear and well known - failed businessman, corrupt copper, corrupt businessman, corrupt politician, corrupt fugitive criminal still using government as a source of wealth and personal benefit.

 

Yes but be fair. Once he discovered how lucrative corruption, and political corruption especially, is, he shared it with his family 

[Ron19]

No votes were bought?

By both sides ?

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[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

So you are saying he wasn't corrupt? Knowing full well how corrupt the police are. Or are you saying there is no evidence? Had to have been some as he fled the country he ruled! LOL

 

Wasn't the political party he owned and rules in office at the time he fled?

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

Ah now Reuters too earn your political bile?

 

The Reuters News Agency employs some 2,500 journalists and 600 photojournalists in about 200 locations worldwide. Reuters journalists use the Reuters Handbook of Journalism as a guide for fair presentation and disclosure of relevant interests, to maintain the values of integrity and freedom upon which their reputation for reliability, accuracy, speed and exclusivity relies.

 

respected, neutral, balanced and relied upon by ALL journalists internationally

 

 

 

So that makes it alright to forget to point out Yingluck was removed by a court and Thaksin was illegally occupying the caretaker PM role when removed?

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Mister Fixit]

4 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

How right he is.  No precedents, No juries and vindictive against those of different colour. He was no angel, she was no angel but they were democratically elected by the people, for the people. 

 

With only a teeny-weeny hint of corruption? Like paying people 500 baht to vote and giving people free mobile phones, to name but two instances.  

[ginjag]

10 minutes ago, Mister Fixit said:

 

With only a teeny-weeny hint of corruption? Like paying people 500 baht to vote and giving people free mobile phones, to name but two instances.  

How many offenses to face  ??     he said they are all politically motivated.....because he was a control freak and thought he had the country by the scruff of the neck,    no one is above the people, he thought he was.

[sjaak327]

37 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

That may be or may not be. But either way, it doesn't change the fact Thaksin is a convicted criminal with some very serious charges outstanding too. 

 

So you don't subscribe to the view innocent till proven guilty then? Prefer trial by media? A criminal becomes a criminal when convicted surely?

And you seriously maintain that seizing power illegally does not make one a criminal ? Well, unfortunately, they have closed the door on any attempts to even trial them, of course that was done for the very reason that they are indeed guilty as sin. But I understand, justice is only for people you dislike, it's not meant for people you like. 

 

the evidence what they did is clear for everyone to see, but yes, I agree they also have right to a trial, now if only they would allow to give the people that possibility, precisely why this amnesty is so much worse. 

Edited August 30, 2017 by sjaak327