1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

No, they are not gun happy.

But protesters are pushing their luck.

To paraphrase Firearms expert John Farnham, all folks who carry a gun lawfully and responsibly must follow the rule of stupid:

When you are carrying, don't:
1. Go to stupid places (an anti ICE riot or an after hours club)
2. With stupid people (or where stupid people congregate) (Agitiators, anarchists, criminal abettors or drug dealers and gangbangers)
3. At stupid times (an anti ICE riot or at 4am)
4. To do stupid things. (interfere with Law Enforcement or to meet a hooker)

Tragic as this was, the dude brought it on himself.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It is worth noting, that virtually every ICE incident reported is negative, and involves "protestors" interfering.

I've watched other ICE videos on Youtube.

Usually, the ICE are acting professionally and doing their jobs calmly. But the protesters are the ones stirring sh&t.

We only saw the worst case incidents where things got out of control.

The American Federation of Government Employees, which represents border patrol officers at the National Border Patrol Council, calls on Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller to resign or be fired.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

To paraphrase Firearms expert John Farnham, all folks who carry a gun lawfully and responsibly must follow the rule of stupid:

When you are carrying, don't:
1. Go to stupid places (an anti ICE riot or an after hours club)
2. With stupid people (or where stupid people congregate) (Agitiators, anarchists, criminal abettors or drug dealers and gangbangers)
3. At stupid times (an anti ICE riot or at 4am)
4. To do stupid things. (interfere with Law Enforcement or to meet a hooker)

Tragic as this was, the dude brought it on himself.

You are free to protest in the USA, didn't you know, it is a free country, you are just making excuses for Trump's gun-happy killers, but expected as you are a Trump groupe, .........😒

Just now, transam said:

You are free to protest in the USA, didn't you know, it is a free country, you are just making excuses for Trump's gun-happy killers, but expected as you are a Trump groupe, .........😒

So you beleive that a lawful gun owner carrying a gun is a responsible gun owner when he intentionally puts himself in a stupid situation?

You have never owned or carried one, thank god. I had a client named Kier 40 years who thought the same way until he saw the bill for legal services rendered.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

So you beleive that a lawful gun owner carrying a gun is responsible when he intentionally puts himself in a stupid situation?

You have never owned or carried one, thank god. I had a client named Kier 40 years who thought the same way until he saw the bill for legal services rendered.

🤣.......Are you for real? He was licensed to carry.........🤣

Plus,I was licensed to own guns and ammunition, I even made my own ammo.......🤣

See, you know nothing, just protecting the executioners, sad, fellow...🤐

20 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

To paraphrase Firearms expert John Farnham, all folks who carry a gun lawfully and responsibly must follow the rule of stupid:

John Farnam https://defense-training.com/about/

John FarnHam = John Peter Farnham AO is an Australian singer. Farnham was a teen pop idol from 1967 until the mid-1970s

40 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So they come in after the "resistance" riots.

The only riots were made by ICE agents.

Your and MAGA logic:

Demonstrating against Trump = riot.

Rioting in front of the white house = peaceful demonstrators.

5 minutes ago, JerryM said:

John Farnam https://defense-training.com/about/

John FarnHam = John Peter Farnham AO is an Australian singer. Farnham was a teen pop idol from 1967 until the mid-1970s

I stand corrected on the spelling.

19 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So you beleive that a lawful gun owner carrying a gun is a responsible gun owner when he intentionally puts himself in a stupid situation?

You have never owned or carried one, thank god. I had a client named Kier 40 years who thought the same way until he saw the bill for legal services rendered.

Is that so? Well, lots is often revealed through pillowtalk.

1 minute ago, Schoggibueb said:

The only riots were made by ICE agents.

OK, right. They were just marching quietly shouting slogans.

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Over the past 24 hours, the president has shifted his messaging, as he tries to come to grips with a public mood that is rapidly souring on his immigration policies, writes our North America correspondent Anthony Zurcher.

Breaking news.......

Faced with broad outcry over the killing of a protester on Sunday in Minneapolis, the White House tried today to distance United States President Donald Trump from the response of his most senior officials, who had immediately characterised the man fatally shot by federal agents as a “domestic terrorist” who was “brandishing” a gun, before video evidence undercut their charges.

Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, notably did not defend the rhetoric of White House officials, including Stephen Miller, the deputy chief of staff, and Kristi Noem, the Homeland Security Secretary, who were the most vocal in spreading false accusations against the victim, Alex Pretti.

Pretti was shot roughly 10 times by immigration agents after he was apparently filming them with his camera.

He was licenced to carry a gun in Minnesota, but video from several angles shows he never pulled one, and his hands were visible as he was shot in the back.

Also the Administration was planning to move Gregory Bovino, a Border Patrol official whose harsh tactics have drawn sharp criticism, out of the city, he had been one of the first to deliver what turned out to be false information about Pretti, but the White House refused to acknowledge that his statements, and others from different top officials, were contradicted by the video evidence.

In conclusion.........lies from the trump team and from Bovino, but Taco trump is "distancing" himself from the furore over this, after all it is his "stock in trade" response!

3 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Breaking news.......

Faced with broad outcry over the killing of a protester on Sunday in Minneapolis, the White House tried today to distance United States President Donald Trump from the response of his most senior officials, who had immediately characterised the man fatally shot by federal agents as a “domestic terrorist” who was “brandishing” a gun, before video evidence undercut their charges.

Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, notably did not defend the rhetoric of White House officials, including Stephen Miller, the deputy chief of staff, and Kristi Noem, the Homeland Security Secretary, who were the most vocal in spreading false accusations against the victim, Alex Pretti.

Pretti was shot roughly 10 times by immigration agents after he was apparently filming them with his camera.

He was licenced to carry a gun in Minnesota, but video from several angles shows he never pulled one, and his hands were visible as he was shot in the back.

Also the Administration was planning to move Gregory Bovino, a Border Patrol official whose harsh tactics have drawn sharp criticism, out of the city, he had been one of the first to deliver what turned out to be false information about Pretti, but the White House refused to acknowledge that his statements, and others from different top officials, were contradicted by the video evidence.

In conclusion.........lies from the trump team and from Bovino, but Taco trump is "distancing" himself from the furore over this, after all it is his "stock in trade" response!

Yep, it is appalling, a guy is executed, and they lie about it..........Shameful Trump team.

Now that is two killings they have lied about...........😬

Et tu, NY POST!

A rare moment of truth on Fox.

Correct, the American people did not vote for hard left activists to terrorize cities

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Correct, the American people did not vote for hard left activists to terrorize cities

What cities.....? 🤫

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Correct, the American people did not vote for hard left activists to terrorize cities

You hard core supporters tend to not look at facts, but it seems even the supreme leader is seeing things in a different way after the backlash over the killings in Minnesota. From NBC news.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-reshuffles-minnesota-operation-backlash-second-fatal-shooting-rcna255984

Trump reshuffles his Minnesota operation after backlash from second fatal shooting

Since the killing of Alex Pretti, Trump has changed his leadership in the state, reset relations with Democratic officials and distanced himself from his advisers' more extreme comments.

2 minutes ago, marin said:

oYou hard core supporters tend to not look at facts, but it seems even the supreme leader is seeing things in a different way after the backlash over the killings in Minnesota. From NBC news.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-reshuffles-minnesota-operation-backlash-second-fatal-shooting-rcna255984

Trump reshuffles his Minnesota operation after backlash from second fatal shooting

Since the killing of Alex Pretti, Trump has changed his leadership in the state, reset relations with Democratic officials and distanced himself from his advisers' more extreme comments.

Yeah, the media frenzy is hurting the GOP.

Time for Noam to

48 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

That's a completely stupid theory.

He won the election and has no need to get revenge on states that didn't vote for him.

The opposite is much more likely. States that lost might be looking to make life hard for Trump.

It's the disenfranchised that usually cause the most problems.

No need to get revenge really?

Dear Leader himself seems to think there is — in fact it's one of those rare election promises he has kept.....

26 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Correct, the American people did not vote for hard left activists to terrorize cities

Care to share details of how, where and when these "hard left activists" terrorized cities?

Or can we just conclude that you've yet again pulled something out of that nasty smelling place?

20 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yeah, the media frenzy is hurting the GOP.

Let me fix that for you:

Yeah, the killing of Americans, peacefully protesting, by masked fed goons is hurting the GOP.

Hope this helps!

16 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

No need to get revenge really?

Dear Leader himself seems to think there is — in fact it's one of those rare election promises he has kept.....

Trump does not only want to punish his enemies, perceived or not, but to punish and destroy them.

6 hours ago, Presnock said:

If you had been in VN you would realize that too.

If I had been in VN it would have been because I'd seriously lost my way , as I'm not even American lol

Go on tell us , How many did you waste ? What's your body count I bet its impressive

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

If I had been in VN it would have been because I'd seriously lost my way , as I'm not even American lol

Go on tell us , How many did you waste ? What's your body count I bet its impressive

Gawd, do be quiet...........🙄

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh yeah, the bookkeeping charges where he recorded payments to his lawyer as legal fees.

That lawfare helped get him elected.

There was no lawfare involved. Thats just a made up overused phrase that ignorant people like to throw out so they dont have to provide facts. It was trump repeatedly breaking more laws than you like to claim.

It really seems to be true that you never let evidence and facts interfere with your opinions.

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

That's a completely stupid theory.

He won the election and has no need to get revenge on states that didn't vote for him.

The opposite is much more likely. States that lost might be looking to make life hard for Trump.

It's the disenfranchised that usually cause the most problems.

So thats why he's worked so hard to gerrymander voting district mapping in his favor in so many states for the mid term elections? Hahaha

I just cannot understand the arguments. Yes, the death is tragic and should never have happened. But on the other hand, if I see police officers or any officials well armed, trying to grab hold of a person on the road, will I go over to them, carrying a firearm, and try to prevent them from doing their job or by putting myself between the officers and the person being apprehended ?

And ICE operations were always around, long before Trump. But the leftist woke extremists never used to fuss that much ? Yes the death is very tragic et must not happen. But one cannot, but duly consider that the victim did put himself to high risk in getting into a physical contact with the officers. I don't like the bully attitude of Trump. But he is doing what those before him never were inclined - that is to not allow all the illegals either entert or to remain.

Europe will surely meet with similar fate as Europe is dooming it's western nations in allowin all the illegals to enter and remain and some that commit heinous crimes. This leads to people getting fed up and having moderate voters, go for extreme leaders like Trump or a few others in office, around the world.

Hail to the people power in Minnesota against Gestapo Muller aka Bovino and send him packing. Keep the pressure on and his cosplay boss.

6 hours ago, transam said:

Are you an ICE agent.........? 🤫

Even better. I'm. your daddy.