Man shot dead by federal agents in Minneapolis

1 minute ago, Effective altruism said:

Even better. I'm. your daddy.

Well, you are something, but I doubt "daddy".....🤫

10 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

I just cannot understand the arguments. Yes, the death is tragic and should never have happened. But on the other hand, if I see police officers or any officials well armed, trying to grab hold of a person on the road, will I go over to them, carrying a firearm, and try to prevent them from doing their job or by putting myself between the officers and the person being apprehended ?

And ICE operations were always around, long before Trump. But the leftist woke extremists never used to fuss that much ? Yes the death is very tragic et must not happen. But one cannot, but duly consider that the victim did put himself to high risk in getting into a physical contact with the officers. I don't like the bully attitude of Trump. But he is doing what those before him never were inclined - that is to not allow all the illegals either entert or to remain.

Europe will surely meet with similar fate as Europe is dooming it's western nations in allowin all the illegals to enter and remain and some that commit heinous crimes. This leads to people getting fed up and having moderate voters, go for extreme leaders like Trump or a few others in office, around the world.

I agree with most of your post but in all honesty I don't think Trump is extreme. He's pretty much doing what he campaigned on and what the majority of voters voted for and although this is extremely unusual (doing what he said he'd do) I wouldn't call it extreme.

23 minutes ago, Dan O said:

There was no lawfare involved. Thats just a made up overused phrase that ignorant people like to throw out so they dont have to provide facts. It was trump repeatedly breaking more laws than you like to claim.

It really seems to be true that you never let evidence and facts interfere with your opinions.

It was lawfare.

22 minutes ago, Dan O said:

There was no lawfare involved. Thats just a made up overused phrase that ignorant people like to throw out so they dont have to provide facts. It was trump repeatedly breaking more laws than you like to claim.

It really seems to be true that you never let evidence and facts interfere with your opinions.

The "fact" is that Trump recording 11 payments totaling $130K to reimburse his lawyer for securing a perfectly legal non-disclosure agreement was turned into 34 felonies.

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

I agree with most of your post but in all honesty I don't think Trump is extreme. He's pretty much doing what he campaigned on and what the majority of voters voted for and although this is extremely unusual (doing what he said he'd do) I wouldn't call it extreme.

I can't believe you wrote that.............🤣

Trump lied through his teeth to hook people like you............🤣

Trump has <deleted> up the world order, USA folk are paying more, you are a joker......🤣

15 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

Europe will surely meet with similar fate as Europe is dooming it's western nations in allowin all the illegals to enter and remain and some that commit heinous crimes. This leads to people getting fed up and having moderate voters, go for extreme leaders like Trump or a few others in office, around the world.

I don't understand why the left puts so much effort into protecting illegal aliens. What drives this mindset?

1 minute ago, transam said:

Trump has f----ked up the world order, USA folk are paying more, you are a joker......🤣

What is so special about the current word order?

Just now, Effective altruism said:

I don't understand why the left puts so much effort into protecting illegal aliens. What drives this mindset?

For votes because they aim to give voting rights to non nationals, like many countries in Europe are doing and are getting doomed. And also many of the illegals have legally established family who have a green card or who have become US citizens and thus is a guarantee to get their votes. All a quest of power or money by the corrupt leftist wokes, who are no better then many of those on the other right side who are also as corrupt with their own lobbies and groups.

Trump gives out on all, both left and right. That's why he gets hit from both sides.

2 hours ago, LosLobo said:

No need to get revenge really?

The revenge is getting elected so the other idiot doesn't get elected.

He doesn't mean going after blue states.

3 minutes ago, transam said:

I can't believe you wrote that.............🤣

Trump lied through his teeth to hook people like you............🤣

Trump has <deleted> up the world order, USA folk are paying more, you are a joker......🤣

The world order was already <deleted> up difference is the US isn't paying for it as much. He's shaken up the world order not <deleted> it up. The EU for example is doing a good job of <deleted> things up all by themselves.

4 minutes ago, Effective altruism said:

What is so special about the current word order?

Nothing special, just Trump's dictatorship ambitions, which I hope he eventually will pay for. Though his supporters on here are laughable, sort of, eeer, odd......😒

14 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Hail to the people power in Minnesota against Gestapo Muller aka Bovino and send him packing. Keep the pressure on and his cosplay boss.

And before you know it you will be getting the Insurrection Act. If the local police were doing their job then these two shootings would not have occurred. And if the police continue to be ordered to stand down then the Insurrection Act will be required. And again for those in denial: Is it a coincidence that the state and local government officials involved in this Somalians billions dollar scam are also involved with this institutional obstruction of ICE operations.

Just now, transam said:

Nothing special, just Trump's dictatorship ambitions, which I hope he eventually will pay for. Though his supporters on here are laughable, sort of, eeer, odd......😒

What do you mean by ambitions of dictatorship?

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The world order was already <deleted> up difference is the US isn't paying for it as much. He's shaken up the world order not <deleted> it up. The EU for example is doing a good job of <deleted> things up all by themselves.

🤣........That's the spirit, Trump needs someone like you to award the "Congressional Medal of Honor", there is no one else....🤣

2 minutes ago, Effective altruism said:

What do you mean by ambitions of dictatorship?

What do I mean, now come on, do you live in a cave.....? 😄

24 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

I just cannot understand the arguments. Yes, the death is tragic and should never have happened. But on the other hand, if I see police officers or any officials well armed, trying to grab hold of a person on the road, will I go over to them, carrying a firearm, and try to prevent them from doing their job or by putting myself between the officers and the person being apprehended ?

And ICE operations were always around, long before Trump. But the leftist woke extremists never used to fuss that much ? Yes the death is very tragic et must not happen. But one cannot, but duly consider that the victim did put himself to high risk in getting into a physical contact with the officers. I don't like the bully attitude of Trump. But he is doing what those before him never were inclined - that is to not allow all the illegals either entert or to remain.

Europe will surely meet with similar fate as Europe is dooming it's western nations in allowin all the illegals to enter and remain and some that commit heinous crimes. This leads to people getting fed up and having moderate voters, go for extreme leaders like Trump or a few others in office, around the world.

You seem to deliberately omitting the reason why the ICE agent fired at least 10 times within 5 seconds after an agent has removed a gun and moving away. What objective reasoning for the agent to keep firing when there was no threat of death or serious bodily injury. When someone witness police officers misbehaving, they have a legal rights to intervene. They may face arrest but to be murdered after being pinned down by 6 agents, peppered sprayed and rendered immobile is murder. No excuse for this killing.

6 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The world order was already <deleted> up difference is the US isn't paying for it as much. He's shaken up the world order not <deleted> it up. The EU for example is doing a good job of <deleted> things up all by themselves.

I find it ironic that Europe is sanctioning Russian oil while still purchasing LNG from Russia. It's amusing to recall how they mocked Trump when he warned them that buying gas from Russia was not a wise decision. By doing this, Europe is essentially funding Russia's war in Ukraine while simultaneously supporting Ukraine's efforts. Europeans are clowns.

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

When someone witness police officers misbehaving, they have a legal rights to intervene.

No don't they don't. They have the record the incident and report it. Then the courts sort it out.

7 minutes ago, transam said:

What do I mean, now come on, do you live in a cave.....? 😄

It's so obvious that you can't explain it. People like you are all talk and no substance.

1 minute ago, Effective altruism said:

I find it ironic that Europe is sanctioning Russian oil while still purchasing LNG from Russia. It's amusing to recall how they mocked Trump when he warned them that buying gas from Russia was not a wise decision. By doing this, Europe is essentially funding Russia's war in Ukraine while simultaneously supporting Ukraine's efforts. Europeans are clowns.

That is rather a blanket statement. What do you have against the average European to call clowns.

I think the leader of the USA has proven to be the clown, the about turn clown king (with a small 'k').......🤡

22 minutes ago, Effective altruism said:

What is so special about the current word order?

Word order is very special in a sense that it is always needed to form a good sentence and an effective paragraph.

Just now, Effective altruism said:

It's so obvious that you can't explain it. People like you are all talk and no substance.

People like you can't see the wood from the trees, chap......🤗

You remind me of "Rocky Monte"...........😁

6 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

there was no threat of death or serious bodily injury.

Doesn't mean there was no perceived threat of death or serious bodily injury and that's all it takes.

8 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

You seem to deliberately omitting the reason why the ICE agent fired at least 10 times within 5 seconds after an agent has removed a gun and moving away. What objective reasoning for the agent to keep firing when there was no threat of death or serious bodily injury. When someone witness police officers misbehaving, they have a legal rights to intervene. They may face arrest but to be murdered after being pinned down by 6 agents, peppered sprayed and rendered immobile is murder. No excuse for this killing.

Except that all of the intervention started long before anyone was sprayed or shot.

2 minutes ago, transam said:

That is rather a blanket statement. What do you have against the average European to call clowns.

I think the leader of the USA has proven to be the clown, the about turn clown king (with a small 'k').......🤡

It's a circus to be against the Russian war on Ukraine while funding it at the same time.

13 minutes ago, morrobay said:

And before you know it you will be getting the Insurrection Act. If the local police were doing their job then these two shootings would not have occurred. And if the police continue to be ordered to stand down then the Insurrection Act will be required. And again for those in denial: Is it a coincidence that the state and local government officials involved in this Somalians billions dollar scam are also involved with this institutional obstruction of ICE operations.

MPD Chief O'Hara make clear that they are committed to the law and constitution and will refrain from escorting ICE operations as they break rules in their brutal crackdown.

This whole Somali claims are unsubstantiated by the Office of the Legislative Auditor in their investigation. It is fine for low information folks to believe in false allegations.

Inssurrections LOL. Think Jan 6.

3 minutes ago, transam said:

People like you can't see the wood from the trees, chap......🤗

You remind me of "Rocky Monte"...........😁

All you are doing is repeating what you have been told to say. You have not actually thought anything out for yourself.

1 minute ago, Effective altruism said:

It's a circus to be against the Russian war on Ukraine while funding it at the same time.

Perhaps you do not know what is involved, but people like you want everything to stop NOW, then folk will die from no heat or power..🙄

I suggest you buy one of those thinking caps before you post.....

8 minutes ago, Effective altruism said:

No don't they don't. They have the record the incident and report it. Then the courts sort it out.

You really know nothing about the law. Obfuscation is always your tactic when you know nothing.

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

This whole Somali claims are unsubstantiated by the Office of the Legislative Auditor in their investigation. It is fine for low information folks to believe in false allegations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/fraud-minnesota-somali.html