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Starmer Calls Teen Rape Sentences ‘Appalling’

Prime Minister Keir Starmer has described as “appalling” a case in which three teenage boys convicted of raping two girls avoided custodial sentences.

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The boys, aged 13 and 14 at the time of the offences, were sentenced at Southampton Crown Court on Thursday after attacks on two girls in Fordingbridge in November 2024 and January 2025.

Two of the boys, both now aged 15, and another now aged 14, were instead given Youth Rehabilitation Orders (YROs), community-based sentences for children that can include curfews, supervision and treatment requirements.

Review of sentences

Speaking after one of the victims criticised the ruling in an interview with the BBC, Starmer said the case was being urgently reviewed by the attorney general.

In a post on X, the prime minister said the girls had shown “extraordinary bravery and strength in heinous circumstances”.

“This is an appalling case and it is right that law officers are urgently reviewing the sentences,” he said.

The attorney general now has 28 days to decide whether to refer the sentences to the Court of Appeal under the unduly lenient sentence scheme.

Cabinet Office minister Darren Jones said ministers expected the review to move more quickly because of the seriousness of the case.

Victim criticises ruling

One of the victims, now aged 16, told the BBC the decision felt like “a rock straight in my face”.

She said the outcome made it appear that what had happened to the girls was “not OK, but it was OK in the eyes of the law because they were still children”.

The teenager questioned why she had gone through the court process and relived the attacks during the trial if the punishment amounted to what she described as “a slap on the wrist”.

She had been 15 when she was raped in an underpass near the River Avon after travelling to meet one of the boys, who had contacted her through Snapchat. The second victim, aged 14 at the time, was raped in a field.

The assaults were filmed on mobile phones, with some footage later shared online.

Judge cited age of offenders

At sentencing, Judge Nicholas Rowland said he wanted to avoid “criminalising these children unnecessarily”, despite acknowledging the seriousness of the offences.

He said the filming of the attacks made the crimes “even more serious”, but also praised the boys for their behaviour during the trial.

One 15-year-old received a three-year YRO with 180 days of intensive supervision for raping both girls and for indecent image offences.

The second 15-year-old received the same sentence for multiple rape charges and indecent image offences. The 14-year-old was given an 18-month YRO after being convicted of encouraging one of the rapes.

Under UK law, offenders under 18 serve custodial sentences in secure youth facilities rather than adult prisons.

Political reaction

Senior politicians from across parties criticised the sentences.

Robert Jenrick said justice had not been done and questioned whether judges should face greater accountability for sentencing decisions.

Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch said she was “sickened” by the case, while Liberal Democrat justice spokesperson Ben Maguire called the crimes “utterly horrific”.

Rachel de Souza said she was “deeply concerned” and that her office would contact the families to offer support.

A government spokesperson said ministers shared the public’s “shock” at the details of the case and confirmed that law officers were reviewing the sentences “with the utmost care and attention”.

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SAFETY FIRST Star Member

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5 minutes ago, webfact said:

Starmer Calls Teen Rape Sentences ‘Appalling’

Crikey, the leftist, Wokes are turning on themselves.

JonnyF Star Member

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4 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Crikey, the leftist, Wokes are turning on themselves.

Nah he's just sounding off to pretend he didn't create the environment that allows these things to happen.

The Manchester airport attackers are also walking free despite the whole thing being captured on cctv.

Henry Novak was stabbed by a sikh and then arrested by police while he bled to death because the killer accused him of making a racist remark.

Make no mistake, 2 tier justice is alive and well in 2 tier Keirs Britain.

FlorC Platinum Member

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If Starmer complains about the unduly lenient sentence,

those 2 boys must be white boys ?

David in the north Explorer Member

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This judge should be dismissed
Totally unfit for the job. Unfortunately, he is not the only one

shackleton Platinum Member

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Maybe we should be looking at jailing these useless old judges coming out with sentences like those given for these sort of appalling crimes

Does not send out the proper message to deter others

boloaf Senior Member

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2 hours ago, FlorC said:

If Starmer complains about the unduly lenient sentence,

those 2 boys must be white boys ?

'Travellers' I saw in one report.

Thingamabob Diamond Member

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A shame he has never shown such a strong interest in punishing the grooming gangs.

JonnyF Star Member

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35 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

A shame he has never shown such a strong interest in punishing the grooming gangs.

Yes he actively blocked calls for an inquiry into the grooming gangs.

Likewise he took a knee for George Floyd but hasn't even mentioned Henry Novak.

It's always selective outrage with Starmer.

No wonder the country despises him.

BusyB Platinum Member

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That judge should be dismissed. He obviously has no judgement at all.

JonnyF Star Member

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46 minutes ago, BusyB said:

That judge should be dismissed. He obviously has no judgement at all.

A lack of judgement seems to be a requirement for UK judges.

31 months jail for a tweet but not a single day for a gang rape.

The UK justice system is sickening.

BusyB Platinum Member

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17 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

A lack of judgement seems to be a requirement for UK judges.

31 months jail for a tweet but not a single day for a gang rape.

The UK justice system is sickening.

There is an argument to be had about the UK justice system. The whole political, constitutional and economic edifice of the country is also in desperate need of complete reform. The actors that the UK electorate puts forward all the time are but symptoms of that very real malaise. As is your bigotry and anger.

Two things:

Such reforms would definitely reduce the influence of people like you for a variety of reasons I can't be bothered to line up here.

Your argument about the justice system being sickening (like the rest of the 19th century anachronisms that govern the country) is itself undermined of course when you use this dishonest, disproven, false, yet still being flogged to death and utterly lazy ''31 months for a tweet'' lie.

Red Forever Gold Member

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51 minutes ago, BusyB said:

There is an argument to be had about the UK justice system. The whole political, constitutional and economic edifice of the country is also in desperate need of complete reform. The actors that the UK electorate puts forward all the time are but symptoms of that very real malaise. As is your bigotry and anger.

Two things:

Such reforms would definitely reduce the influence of people like you for a variety of reasons I can't be bothered to line up here.

Your argument about the justice system being sickening (like the rest of the 19th century anachronisms that govern the country) is itself undermined of course when you use this dishonest, disproven, false, yet still being flogged to death and utterly lazy ''31 months for a tweet'' lie.

Jonny is triggered so rational debate goes whoosh over his/her head.

The last paragraph of your post is the truest, most succinct summation of this far right lie but don’t expect Jonny to acknowledge this.

AngryMan Senior Member

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7 hours ago, FlorC said:

If Starmer complains about the unduly lenient sentence,

those 2 boys must be white boys ?

There were 3 rapists and yes they are white!

BusyB Platinum Member

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4 hours ago, Red Forever said:

Jonny is triggered so rational debate goes whoosh over his/her head.

The last paragraph of your post is the truest, most succinct summation of this far right lie but don’t expect Jonny to acknowledge this.

I agree and that's the last thing I expect 555. But he was near enough to some basic truth here to warrant an answer. Normally I don't bother for the reasons you outlined.

Chopper Higgot tends to have the time and motivation to tackle him/her/them. I've noticed it's a waste of time but then again you can't just leave that kind of tripe totally unchallenged can you? Jonny's not the only culprit on AN either.

TedG Ruby Member

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The judge who handed down that sentence should be tarred and feathered.

ericbj Silver Member

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It's possible Starmer's addled brain is finally registering how unpopular witn the electorate is the current system of injustice he has created.

Or else he is merely shocked that these white youths are being let off with extreme leniency. Contrary to his two-tier system of penalties based upon skin colour. He is, after all, a racist.

Jim Blue Platinum Member

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Is this the man that let Blair off for

toilet flushing ...sorry flashing ?

JonnyF Star Member

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17 hours ago, BusyB said:

There is an argument to be had about the UK justice system. The whole political, constitutional and economic edifice of the country is also in desperate need of complete reform. The actors that the UK electorate puts forward all the time are but symptoms of that very real malaise. As is your bigotry and anger.

Two things:

Such reforms would definitely reduce the influence of people like you for a variety of reasons I can't be bothered to line up here.

Your argument about the justice system being sickening (like the rest of the 19th century anachronisms that govern the country) is itself undermined of course when you use this dishonest, disproven, false, yet still being flogged to death and utterly lazy ''31 months for a tweet'' lie.

Not badly written for you. AI has some benefits it seems.

Unfortunately the content is utter nonsense.

Lucy Connolly did get 31 months for a tweet. There are very clear other examples of 2 tier justice that have been discussed many times here on AN and elsewhere.

Look at the case of Henry Novak recently. Stabbed multiple times by a Sikh and then arrested by UK police as he bled to death because he was accused of using a racial insult by the killer. Starmer hasn't even mentioned it yet he made a public scene of taking the knee for George Floyd thousands of miles away.

So many other cases i could mention. It does anger me and your tired old insults every time sometimes points out these shocking incidents will not work any more.

Judging by recent polls and the local elections I am not an outlier here. People have had enough of being second class citizens in their own country. So don't cry about the backlash because it is coming.

johnnybangkok Platinum Member

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10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Not badly written for you. AI has some benefits it seems.

Unfortunately the content is utter nonsense.

Lucy Connolly did get 31 months for a tweet. There are very clear other examples of 2 tier justice that have been discussed many times here on AN and elsewhere.

Look at the case of Henry Novak recently. Stabbed multiple times by a Sikh and then arrested by UK police as he bled to death because he was accused of using a racial insult by the killer. Starmer hasn't even mentioned it yet he made a public scene of taking the knee for George Floyd thousands of miles away.

So many other cases i could mention. It does anger me and your tired old insults every time sometimes points out these shocking incidents will not work any more.

Judging by recent polls and the local elections I am not an outlier here. People have had enough of being second class citizens in their own country. So don't cry about the backlash because it is coming.

As you already know Jonny (but are determined to paint differently), Lucy Connely got 31 months for stirring up racial hatred in the aftermath of the Southport attack and called for "mass deportation now" and urged her followers on X to "set fire" to hotels housing asylum seekers. Stirring up racial hatred is illegal in the UK and she pleaded guilty (yes, we all know your argument about this so don't bother repeating it). In the end she ony served 10 months and now is the darling of the far-right with her being held up as some bastion of free speach.

Henry Nowak's (you might want to at least get the name right) killer deserves his day in court (which he will get) and it's not looking good for him but this assertion of yours that 'arrested by UK police as he bled to death' is only true in as much as he was handcuffed by police whilst they were trying to sort out what was going on. As soon as they realised the extent of his injuries, the handcuffs came off. Police are asked to make on-the-spot decisions in these matters and don't always get it right but your inference that the white guy was arrested because of the brown guy saying he was racist is as usual, highly simplistic and obviously biased with your own miopic way of looking at all of these things.

You would get much more respect on this site if you at least tried to put forward a balanced argument in these matters but you cherry pick to suit your own narrative which usually means leaving out a whole heap of facts.

BritManToo Star Member

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1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:

As you already know Jonny (but are determined to paint differently), Lucy Connely got 31 months for stirring up racial hatred in the aftermath of the Southport attack and called for "mass deportation now" and urged her followers on X to "set fire" to hotels housing asylum seekers. Stirring up racial hatred is illegal in the UK and she pleaded guilty (yes, we all know your argument about this so don't bother repeating it). In the end she ony served 10 months and now is the darling of the far-right with her being held up as some bastion of free speach.

You think raping 14yo white girls isn't going to stir up racial hatred?

brewsterbudgen Star Member

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1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:

As you already know Jonny (but are determined to paint differently), Lucy Connely got 31 months for stirring up racial hatred in the aftermath of the Southport attack and called for "mass deportation now" and urged her followers on X to "set fire" to hotels housing asylum seekers. Stirring up racial hatred is illegal in the UK and she pleaded guilty (yes, we all know your argument about this so don't bother repeating it). In the end she ony served 10 months and now is the darling of the far-right with her being held up as some bastion of free speach.

Henry Nowak's (you might want to at least get the name right) killer deserves his day in court (which he will get) and it's not looking good for him but this assertion of yours that 'arrested by UK police as he bled to death' is only true in as much as he was handcuffed by police whilst they were trying to sort out what was going on. As soon as they realised the extent of his injuries, the handcuffs came off. Police are asked to make on-the-spot decisions in these matters and don't always get it right but your inference that the white guy was arrested because of the brown guy saying he was racist is as usual, highly simplistic and obviously biased with your own miopic way of looking at all of these things.

You would get much more respect on this site if you at least tried to put forward a balanced argument in these matters but you cherry pick to suit your own narrative which usually means leaving out a whole heap of facts.

That's true, but I don't think he wants "respect". He just likes stirring the pot much like his hero Tommy (who has noticeably been quiet about this case!).

BritManToo Star Member

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7 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Henry Nowak's (you might want to at least get the name right) killer deserves his day in court (which he will get) and it's not looking good for him but this assertion of yours that 'arrested by UK police as he bled to death' is only true in as much as he was handcuffed by police whilst they were trying to sort out what was going on. As soon as they realised the extent of his injuries, the handcuffs came off. Police are asked to make on-the-spot decisions in these matters and don't always get it right but your inference that the white guy was arrested because of the brown guy saying he was racist is as usual, highly simplistic and obviously biased with your own miopic way of looking at all of these things.

Polish immigrant killed by Indian immigrant ........ can't say I really care.

JonnyF Star Member

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3 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

As you already know Jonny (but are determined to paint differently), Lucy Connely got 31 months for stirring up racial hatred in the aftermath of the Southport attack and called for "mass deportation now" and urged her followers on X to "set fire" to hotels housing asylum seekers. Stirring up racial hatred is illegal in the UK and she pleaded guilty (yes, we all know your argument about this so don't bother repeating it). In the end she ony served 10 months and now is the darling of the far-right with her being held up as some bastion of free speach.

Henry Nowak's (you might want to at least get the name right) killer deserves his day in court (which he will get) and it's not looking good for him but this assertion of yours that 'arrested by UK police as he bled to death' is only true in as much as he was handcuffed by police whilst they were trying to sort out what was going on. As soon as they realised the extent of his injuries, the handcuffs came off. Police are asked to make on-the-spot decisions in these matters and don't always get it right but your inference that the white guy was arrested because of the brown guy saying he was racist is as usual, highly simplistic and obviously biased with your own miopic way of looking at all of these things.

You would get much more respect on this site if you at least tried to put forward a balanced argument in these matters but you cherry pick to suit your own narrative which usually means leaving out a whole heap of facts.

So you think a nasty tweet is worse than a gang rape? Good to know.

As for Henry Nowak the UK police acted exactly as I would expect them to. They assisted the Muslim gangs rape the white girls so why not help the Sikh guy kill the white kid? The fact you are an apologist for this does not surprise me in the least.

Oh the Manchester airport attackers walked free for the second time last week after their violence was 100% caught on cctv.

Not to mention Ricky Jones "slit their throats" also caught on cctv and walked free.

But yes. The justice system works perfectly. Nothing to see here.

JonnyF Star Member

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7 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

That's true, but I don't think he wants "respect". He just likes stirring the pot much like his hero Tommy (who has noticeably been quiet about this case!).

I certainly don't want respect from the likes of you or the other apologist.

BusyB Platinum Member

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4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Not badly written for you. AI has some benefits it seems.

Unfortunately the content is utter nonsense.

Lucy Connolly did get 31 months for a tweet. There are very clear other examples of 2 tier justice that have been discussed many times here on AN and elsewhere.

Look at the case of Henry Novak recently. Stabbed multiple times by a Sikh and then arrested by UK police as he bled to death because he was accused of using a racial insult by the killer. Starmer hasn't even mentioned it yet he made a public scene of taking the knee for George Floyd thousands of miles away.

So many other cases i could mention. It does anger me and your tired old insults every time sometimes points out these shocking incidents will not work any more.

Judging by recent polls and the local elections I am not an outlier here. People have had enough of being second class citizens in their own country. So don't cry about the backlash because it is coming.

Spare me please.

What people like you don't grasp is that the backlashers will hit you worst of all.

And save your sad insults. Just more hatred and anger. You don't sound like a very happy person. Help is available.

JonnyF Star Member

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13 minutes ago, BusyB said:

Spare me please.

What people like you don't grasp is that the backlashers will hit you worst of all.

How so?

13 minutes ago, BusyB said:

And save your sad insults. Just more hatred and anger. You don't sound like a very happy person. Help is available.

Perfectly happy thanks.😄 I left in 2006 best decision I ever made. Saw the writing on the wall.

In the process of selling up my rental properties as we speak. You liberals can live in your own mess. Like many hard working self made Brits - I'm out but dont worry an unskilled dinghy diver on benefits will replace me. 😄

BritManToo Star Member

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27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

How so?

Perfectly happy thanks.😄 I left in 2006 best decision I ever made. Saw the writing on the wall.

In the process of selling up my rental properties as we speak. You liberals can live in your own mess. Like many hard working self made Brits - I'm out but dont worry an unskilled dinghy diver on benefits will replace me. 😄

Me too,

But liberals and women can never be happy.

johnnybangkok Platinum Member

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3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

So you think a nasty tweet is worse than a gang rape? Good to know.

Straw man fallacy

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

As for Henry Nowak the UK police acted exactly as I would expect them to. They assisted the Muslim gangs rape the white girls so why not help the Sikh guy kill the white kid? The fact you are an apologist for this does not surprise me in the least.

And the fact this is just sensationalist nonsense doesn't surprise me - 'why not help the Sikh guy kill the white kid - Really? Really?

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Oh the Manchester airport attackers walked free for the second time last week after their violence was 100% caught on cctv.

As you are no doubt aware but conventiently forget to mention, the two brothers involved did not "walk free" but rather faced a hung jury . The jury failed to reach verdicts on charges but Mohammed Amaaz was found guilty at a previous trial in 2025 of assaulting a member of the public and two female police officers. He has been remanded in custody, awaiting sentencing and although Muhammad Amaad was discharged without a verdict in the latest trial, he still remains on bail with further legal steps to be determined by the CPS whether they intend to pursue a third trial.

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Not to mention Ricky Jones "slit their throats" also caught on cctv and walked free.

Still cra**ing on about this one I see despite it being over 2 years old. As the learned man you undoubtedly are, you will be no doubt aware Jones was suspended from his political party and arrested by the Met on suspicion of encouraging murder - so in other words he faced the exact same justice system as your beloved Lucy Connely. The BIG difference of course is he pleaded not guilty AND A JURY OF HIS PEERS agreed with him.

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

But yes. The justice system works perfectly. Nothing to see here.

You continue to try to push this narrative of a 2-tier system or that it's directly Starmers fault or the justice system is somehow 'broken' but you always conveniently forget that the justice system is in fact the same for everyone. Jones was arrested by the police exactly the same as Connely, Amaaz and Amaad - all of their offences were deemed suitable for trial by the Crown Prosecution Service and they were all given the chance to defend themselves in a court of law. It's no-one elses fault that Connely was stupid enough to plead guilty and therefore made prosecution and sentencing a foregone conclusion (and yes, once again, we all know you thoughts on this so please don't bore us again). So if all of that is the same then it must come down to something else surely? Now I wander what that can be? Lets look at the clues (let's take you back to the scene of the crime so to say) - if it's not the police and it's not the CPS and it's not the courts and judges don't get to decide a verdict then I wonder what on earth it can be? What part of the whole system can perhaps prove very random and prone to individual thoughts and feeling? Couldn't have something to do with the 12 random people that are cobbled together and asked for their thoughts on the whole matter and who (as with Amaaz and Amaad) can sometimes not even make up their mind.

So what's it to be Jonny? There are proposals to do away with jury trials in many cases in the UK (which I remember you being against) and just having magistrates but since that's the system we currently have then I'm afraid that's what we have to live with. We all know it's not perfect but we also know it;s got nothing to do with '2-tier this' and '2-tier that' and certainly nothing to do with Starmer who you try to blame for literally everything.

You have zero objectivity, zero balance and therefore zero clue.

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6 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Straw man fallacy

And the fact this is just sensationalist nonsense doesn't surprise me - 'why not help the Sikh guy kill the white kid - Really? Really?

As you are no doubt aware but conventiently forget to mention, the two brothers involved did not "walk free" but rather faced a hung jury . The jury failed to reach verdicts on charges but Mohammed Amaaz was found guilty at a previous trial in 2025 of assaulting a member of the public and two female police officers. He has been remanded in custody, awaiting sentencing and although Muhammad Amaad was discharged without a verdict in the latest trial, he still remains on bail with further legal steps to be determined by the CPS whether they intend to pursue a third trial.

Still cra**ing on about this one I see despite it being over 2 years old. As the learned man you undoubtedly are, you will be no doubt aware Jones was suspended from his political party and arrested by the Met on suspicion of encouraging murder - so in other words he faced the exact same justice system as your beloved Lucy Connely. The BIG difference of course is he pleaded not guilty AND A JURY OF HIS PEERS agreed with him.

You continue to try to push this narrative of a 2-tier system or that it's directly Starmers fault or the justice system is somehow 'broken' but you always conveniently forget that the justice system is in fact the same for everyone. Jones was arrested by the police exactly the same as Connely, Amaaz and Amaad - all of their offences were deemed suitable for trial by the Crown Prosecution Service and they were all given the chance to defend themselves in a court of law. It's no-one elses fault that Connely was stupid enough to plead guilty and therefore made prosecution and sentencing a foregone conclusion (and yes, once again, we all know you thoughts on this so please don't bore us again). So if all of that is the same then it must come down to something else surely? Now I wander what that can be? Lets look at the clues (let's take you back to the scene of the crime so to say) - if it's not the police and it's not the CPS and it's not the courts and judges don't get to decide a verdict then I wonder what on earth it can be? What part of the whole system can perhaps prove very random and prone to individual thoughts and feeling? Couldn't have something to do with the 12 random people that are cobbled together and asked for their thoughts on the whole matter and who (as with Amaaz and Amaad) can sometimes not even make up their mind.

So what's it to be Jonny? There are proposals to do away with jury trials in many cases in the UK (which I remember you being against) and just having magistrates but since that's the system we currently have then I'm afraid that's what we have to live with. We all know it's not perfect but we also know it;s got nothing to do with '2-tier this' and '2-tier that' and certainly nothing to do with Starmer who you try to blame for literally everything.

You have zero objectivity, zero balance and therefore zero clue.


Very very well said. And I admire your patience of explaining it all for the umpteenth time.

But it'll change nothing, the same boring "two tier" cliches will be back in the next post, as will his hand wringing about white people being oppressed.

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4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I certainly don't want respect from the likes of you or the other apologist.

No problem with that 🤣

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