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Trump Calls Himself the Greatest President Ever

Donald Trump has placed himself above all other US presidents in a ranking he shared on social media, declaring himself the only leader in the “greatest” category despite presidential scholars consistently giving him some of the lowest historical ratings.

Trump posted the ranking on Truth Social last Thursday, dividing presidents into six groups ranging from “greatest” to “failures”. Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D Roosevelt and George Washington were placed one level below Trump in the “great” category.

Scholars rank Trump near the bottom

The president’s assessment differs sharply from surveys of presidential historians and political scientists.

Justin Vaughn, a political science professor at Coastal Carolina University and co-creator of the Presidential Greatness Project, said Trump’s ranking was inconsistent with the findings of expert surveys.

“It’s not consistent with the findings of the surveys we’ve conducted,” Vaughn said. “It’s also not consistent with other surveys that have been conducted over the last several years.”

The most recent Presidential Greatness Project survey questioned 154 academics and ranked Trump last among the 45 presidents assessed. He received an average score of 10.92 on a scale from zero, representing failure, to 100, representing greatness.

Lincoln topped the survey with an average score of 93.87. Former presidents such as James Buchanan, who is often criticised for failing to prevent the US civil war, also ranked above Trump.

A separate survey by Siena College in 2022 produced a slightly better result for Trump, but still placed him third from the bottom. Only Buchanan and Andrew Johnson ranked lower.

Questions over Trump’s record

The Siena survey also assessed presidents on areas including executive ability, leadership, integrity and intelligence. Trump ranked 45th out of 45 in both integrity and intelligence.

Barbara Perry, a presidential studies professor at the University of Virginia, said presidential reputations can change over time as historians reassess their records. Americans, she said, tend to develop “a kind of a golden glow about most ex-presidents”.

Trump’s ranking also offered a glimpse into the presidents he admires. Theodore Roosevelt and Grover Cleveland, who like Trump served nonconsecutive terms, were placed in the “near great” category.

Perry rejected the idea that Trump belongs among the highest-rated presidents.

“In no universe of scholars, I believe, would Donald Trump be in the ‘great’ category, the ‘greatest’ category, ‘near great’ category,” she said.

She pointed to Trump’s role in promoting the January 6 insurrection and his continued claims that Joe Biden stole the 2020 election as factors that she believes will weigh heavily on his historical reputation.

Perry said those actions undermined the US constitutional system and the rule of law. She also cited what she described as racism and bias against people who are not white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

White House defends Trump’s legacy

Davis Ingle, a White House spokesperson, said Trump was focused on delivering what he described as a strong, safe and prosperous country.

“The only legacy President Trump is concerned with is making America greater than ever before,” Ingle said.

He added that Trump would ultimately be remembered as “the most successful and consequential president in modern American history”.

Whether that prediction is borne out will depend on how historians judge Trump’s presidency over time. For now, however, academic surveys place him far from the top of the presidential rankings.

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impulse Star Member

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1 minute ago, Cory1848 said:

If you don’t read the news, where do you get your information from? Trump’s tweets? Up to you, but you’ll have a hard time sorting it out when what he says on Tuesday totally contradicts what he said on Monday.

What makes you think I don't read the news? I read the news. Even CNN, ABC, Politico and AP (among others). Admittedly, I still can't get through MSNOW without gagging. But then I take the facts they present and do some searching for alternative analyses. And I also read "unapproved sources", then do some searching to see if their analysis washes.

You have a lot more confidence in them than I do. So we'll have to agree to disagree about the rest of your post. Especially this part: Most professionals are not only knowledgeable in their given field but also have a sense of civic duty and responsibility. They do what they're told, by the people paying their salaries and funding their studies. If they don't, their salaries stop and their next study won't get funding. That's how it works in the real world.

dinsdale Star Member

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7 hours ago, IsaanT said:

can you begin to imagine the rage from Trump when he is eventually out of office and his successors commence work immediately to reverse his bad decisions?

If it's a Democrat then the borders will reopen, illegal aliens will get the vote, boys will continue to get their willies copped off, girls will continue to get their breasts chopped off and men will be playing in women's sports. If this is what you want vote Democrat.

pacovl46 Platinum Member

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The annals of history will say the exact opposite, oh delusional one….

Jingthing Legendary Member

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The scary part is that I think he actually believes that.

Peabody Gold Member

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The greatest?? 🤣

Twitler is both #45 and #47.

Having 45 or 47 chromosomes results in severe developmental, reproductive, and physical disorders. These conditions are most frequently caused by a problem with the sex chromosomes 😯.

Coincidence? You be the judge! 😎

gravity101 Advanced Member

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1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

If it's a Democrat then the borders will reopen, illegal aliens will get the vote, boys will continue to get their willies copped off, girls will continue to get their breasts chopped off and men will be playing in women's sports. If this is what you want vote Democrat.

Now i know you dont believe that. No rational person can.

dinsdale Star Member

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21 minutes ago, gravity101 said:

Now i know you dont believe that. No rational person can.

Which bit? All the bits that happened under Biden? Oh wait. That's all of them.

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scottiejohn Star Member

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2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Which bit? All the bits that happened under Biden? Oh wait. That's all of them.

Did you bother to read the OP title before you put your MAGA deaf ear headpones and blinkers on?

The topic is about the fake TRUMP not about other real presidents!

Caldera Ruby Member

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I can't think of any WORSE president in my lifetime. So far he has accomplished nothing and destroyed a lot.

Lacessit Star Member

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2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

If it's a Democrat then the borders will reopen, illegal aliens will get the vote, boys will continue to get their willies copped off, girls will continue to get their breasts chopped off and men will be playing in women's sports. If this is what you want vote Democrat.

Maybe, just maybe, billionaires will be made to pay their fair share of taxes.

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Yagoda Star Member

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35 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Maybe, just maybe, billionaires will be made to pay their fair share of taxes.

who says they dont other than the socialists.

and folks who are too broke to pay any themselves whil;e they suck off the teat of everyone else

Edited by Yagoda

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On 9/4/2026 at 5:44 AM, JT25 said:

History will show that after this blowhard dies,not only was it the worst president in the history of the USA,he will also go down as one of the lowest of the low human beings.

Hey , lay off the poor man .If he's doing the ratings schedule himself he's entitled to put himself first isn't he ?? Wouldn't you do the same thing.?

impulse Star Member

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5 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Noted, on your digesting more news than I gave you credit for. I do watch MSNBC and largely believe what they broadcast, even if the broadcasters lean toward the Left and away from Trump (to say the least). I find them to be professional, and yes, that involves fact-checking, gathering multiple sources, retracting when needed, all those things you learn in journalism school.

 

And further on that, you are probably more cynical than I am about people’s sense of responsibility in their job, and the leeway given to journalists specifically. Take the Washington Post -- that paper’s editorial pages were entirely independent until Jeff Bezos bought the paper. Bezos famously squashed the paper’s endorsement of Kamala Harris in 2024, and he has since meddled in the paper’s editorial direction. So yeah, you do have a point there, but it’s far-right-wing ownership that is asserting control over what reporters can write about, not so much left-wing or neutral ownership.

 

On liberalism and journalists, most professional journalists (with master’s degrees) do tend to be liberal, which lines up with surveys showing that people with more education tend to hold liberal views, for a variety of reasons (exposure to other points of view being one of them). I’m not saying that conservative journalists are necessarily stupid -- there’s a long tradition of respectable conservative journalism following William F. Buckley, George Will, and many other brilliant people. But watching a far-right-wing journalist (Natalie Harp on One America News?) twisting themself into a pretzel trying to justify Trump’s latest atrocity is a sad spectacle to watch.

Believe it or not, I appreciate the polite discourse. It's refreshing.

Later in my career, I became a "Subject Matter Expert" in an oilfield engineering capacity. I was the guy doing the studies to see what equipment worked best and how to make it last longer. If the results of the studies didn't show our equipment to be better, we never published. We'd use it internally to see what we could do better, but the study never got presented at the symposiums or in the technical papers. The only studies that the public got to see were the ones where our product looked better. That's where my skepticism about "The Science" comes from. I lived it.

Regarding the media (and especially MSNOW), I'm going with this guy. From today. Because I couldn't say it better myself:

impulse Star Member

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3 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Noted, on your digesting more news than I gave you credit for. I do watch MSNBC and largely believe what they broadcast,

Here's an MSNOW YouTube title from yesterday:

BREAKING: Trump asks Supreme Court AGAIN to clear way for MAJOR voter suppression effort

That's why I can't watch MSDNC without gagging.

ericbj Silver Member

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Trump is the greatest failed amateur comedian of all time.

Not to be compared to a professional like Zelensky, except as regards obscene performance. And certainly not to a Charlie Chaplin, whose entertainment is pregnant with meaning.

The film industry might nonetheless find some role for him as a buffoon or a court jester. He is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. But Trumpishness palls and his nonsense quickly ceases to be laughable.

The world is long overdue for change of a transitional nature, but Trump is fostering a cataclysm.

If he cannot be deposed, send him to Coventry.

MarkBR Gold Member

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3 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Noted, on your digesting more news than I gave you credit for. I do watch MSNBC and largely believe what they broadcast, even if the broadcasters lean toward the Left and away from Trump (to say the least). I find them to be professional, and yes, that involves fact-checking, gathering multiple sources, retracting when needed, all those things you learn in journalism school.

 

And further on that, you are probably more cynical than I am about people’s sense of responsibility in their job, and the leeway given to journalists specifically. Take the Washington Post -- that paper’s editorial pages were entirely independent until Jeff Bezos bought the paper. Bezos famously squashed the paper’s endorsement of Kamala Harris in 2024, and he has since meddled in the paper’s editorial direction. So yeah, you do have a point there, but it’s far-right-wing ownership that is asserting control over what reporters can write about, not so much left-wing or neutral ownership.

 

On liberalism and journalists, most professional journalists (with master’s degrees) do tend to be liberal, which lines up with surveys showing that people with more education tend to hold liberal views, for a variety of reasons (exposure to other points of view being one of them). I’m not saying that conservative journalists are necessarily stupid -- there’s a long tradition of respectable conservative journalism following William F. Buckley, George Will, and many other brilliant people. But watching a far-right-wing journalist (Natalie Harp on One America News?) twisting themself into a pretzel trying to justify Trump’s latest atrocity is a sad spectacle to watch.

I doubt this Natalie is a good journalist.

farang51 Gold Member

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4 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Take the Washington Post -- that paper’s editorial pages were entirely independent until Jeff Bezos bought the paper. Bezos famously squashed the paper’s endorsement of Kamala Harris in 2024, and he has since meddled in the paper’s editorial direction. So yeah, you do have a point there, but it’s far-right-wing ownership that is asserting control over what reporters can write about, not so much left-wing or neutral ownership.

There is a difference between opinion pieces and news articles. On the opinion pages, the owner is free to advance things or subjects he believe. But of course, the serious media still fact check what is written in the opinion pieces and they bring corrections when they made a mistake.

That said, I stopped my subscription of Washington Post when Bezos began to meddle in what had traditionally been an independent section of the paper.

To those that don't like (read: understand) the traditional media, ask yourself why a paper like New York Times is highly regarded amongst journalist all over the free world. And ask yourself if your preferred news media has a correction page or a mean of bringing correction. And if it doesn't, then ask yourself why not.

Jingthing Legendary Member

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The greatest CON MAN the world has ever known.

There is no contest.

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On 9/4/2026 at 11:56 AM, Eric Loh said:

He is so humble. Should call himself the world greatest corrupt President. He put Ferdinand Marcos, Suharto and Sese Seko who were the 3 most corrupt Presidents in history to shame.

Utter nonsense.

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On 9/4/2026 at 3:05 PM, gravity101 said:

Please tell me your trolling?

Not trolling. It was an interesting and informative interview.

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2 hours ago, farang51 said:

There is a difference between opinion pieces and news articles. On the opinion pages, the owner is free to advance things or subjects he believe. But of course, the serious media still fact check what is written in the opinion pieces and they bring corrections when they made a mistake.

That said, I stopped my subscription of Washington Post when Bezos began to meddle in what had traditionally been an independent section of the paper.

To those that don't like (read: understand) the traditional media, ask yourself why a paper like New York Times is highly regarded amongst journalist all over the free world. And ask yourself if your preferred news media has a correction page or a mean of bringing correction. And if it doesn't, then ask yourself why not.

NYT highly regarded. Seriously ?

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