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Terminology [edit] The Sunday Herald of Scotland wrote in 2003, "The term dogging originated in the early 1970s to describe men who spied on couples having sex outdoors—these men would 'dog' the couples' every move and watch them."[13] An alternative etymology posits dog walking as the origin of the term; audience members, and indeed participants, could use the ordinary exercise of their pets as cover for their sexual assignations.[1]

Some go for sex, some go to hook up, some just for company. Read some Derek Jarman.

There are a number of instances where people who have met on dating sites come to harm,or are killed, including Grindr. The first advice given is always to meet in a public place. Plus, most are there for company, or hookups, not always sex.

There was a famous dogging site for straights near where I used to live. I imagine it's still there, so your point is incorrect. You're also assuming that all gays who go to Hampstead Heath have sex. They do not.

"Lucy Marsh of the Family Education Trust voiced concerns, stating, "Hampstead Heath is a much-loved public park and a green space that is enjoyed by families, especially those who don't have their own gardens. Parents should be able to enjoy a walk or a picnic without worrying about them seeing gay men having sex in a public place." This is not a case of people walking their dog seeing men have sex, it's a carefully orchestrated campaign by the Family Education Trust, a virulently anti-LGBTQ+ group, who campaign against the queer community. "Family Education Trust (FET) is a campaign group opposing the rights of LGBTQ+ people, especially those of transgender people. The group opposes LGBTQ+ education in schools and argues in favour of discriminating against same-sex couples in terms of adoption and access to care. FET supports legislation requiring teachers to “out” trans children to their parents and wants discrimination on the basis of gender identity to not be a hate crime. The group’s leadership has praised Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. In 2022, the group promoted the anti-Drag Queen Story Hour campaign. The far-right priest Calvin Robinson spoke at a FET event in 2024." Their agenda is to oppose gay rights under the guise of family. Calvin Robinson, the far-right pseudo priest is a fan and has spoken on their behalf. Source of quotes: https://hopenothate.org.uk/case-files-family-education-trust/ Whatever your views on this don't be fooled by these people and the Daily Mail.

Should be Enola LGBTQ+ anyway. 🙂

Some lovely Swiss cheeses. Rahmkäse is amazing.

I'm commenting on the issues brought up, not on what CNN may have got wrong. I know you really want me to say ah well, CNN got it wrong so it invalidates what I'm saying, but that's not gonna happen. You've completely ignored the points I've made and insist banging on about CNN, so I think we're done.

I've told you, I'm totally not interested in what CNN have done. I'm not an apologist for them and it 's got nothing to do with the relevance of what I'm saying There are no such things as transgender animals, as I explained above, so saying Transgender Mice is just being provocative. You clearly don't (or don't want to) understand what is meant by transgender or gender transition. From the OP: "At the University of Michigan, an NIH grant of $2,588,000 was reportedly used to study the effects of hormone treatment in mice to replicate gender transition." Really? Gender transition: Gender transition is the process of living in accordance with one's gender identity, rather than the sex assigned at birth. It's a personal journey that can involve social and medical changes. Hormone replacement therapy (HRT), Gender affirming surgeries, and Transgender voice therapy. Changing name and pronouns Changing clothing, hairstyles, and appearance Coming out as transgender Connecting with support groups How can any of that apply to animals? I'd love to see mice changing their hairstyles. Lol. I'm British so I'm not interested in the politics of this. It's an American tragedy.

Well, nice to know we agree on the facts then. Despite the original article using lots of reportedly's and alledgedly's. Lol. I don't really see the problem. The inflammatory headline of Transgender Animals when they're no such thing is bad enough but for Trump to say that they're trying to make mice transgender is a lie or just dumb. I haven't read about CNN and have no interest in partisan politics, particular from the U.S.

Trump's claim: $8m was spent on "making mice transgender". Firstly, you cannot make mice or any other animal transgender. A transgender person by definition is someone who believes that their gender identity is different to their biological sex assigned at birth. Animals are incapable of this assertion so they can never be transgender. Scientists know this. The $8m was in National Institutes of Health grants, not spending, as broken down below. $455,000 for a study on hormone therapy and HIV vaccine. $2.5 million to examine the reproductive consequences of steroid hormone administration. $299,940 for research into the impact of testosterone therapy for breast cancer. $735,113 for a study on how gender-affirming hormone therapy affects the microbiome in mice. $1.2 million to analyze androgen effects on the reproductive neuroendocrine axis. $3.1 million to investigate how hormones influence asthma outcomes. The studies relevant to transgender were for research into the effect of hormone therapies on post-menopausal women and transgender individuals and were conducted on transgenic * (not transgender) mice, a common practice. They were done for safe and beneficial outcomes for these people. Therefore Trump's claims are ludicrous and absurd and you can form your own opinion on what he was trying to achieve with his comments. * "Transgenic mice are genetically modified mice that have had foreign DNA introduced into their genome, allowing scientists to study specific genes and their effects on biological processes." Source article: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/science/did-donald-trump-confuse-transgender-mice-with-transgenic-mice/articleshow/118761915.cms

I understand that but johng was talking about immigrants arriving from a "safe country", which is likely to be another EU country. "The government’s post-Brexit deal, and specifically its failure to reach a “returns agreement with the EU”, whereby unauthorised migrants to the UK could be returned to the first safe EU country they had entered. Before Brexit, there was just such an arrangement. But it expired once Britain left – and the government put nothing in its place." https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/15/small-boats-industry-science-brexit-made-our-lives-worse

Under EU law the U.K would have been entitled to do that. Not now.

I think the Bee Gees were 60s and 70s.

Indeed. 29.8 % is nowhere near enough to declare an outright win and therefore form a government. In 2010 the Labour Party got the largest popular vote at 35% and were unable to form a government. The Tories had less at 32% but formed a coalition with the Liberal Democrats. The right-wing dearies on here will have you believe it's a subversion of democracy when it's actually the democratic process that all parties have signed up to, including the FPO. In fact the same process could have worked in their favour if they hadn't been so reviled.

Like the Tories and student loans.

What about a good drag show? 🙂 * * For the knuckle-draggers, I'm kidding.

That's a good idea. Could go to some great London clubs....... .......or even Chelsea. 🙂

Thank you.

Thank you.

cj, what's the advantage of 60/72v over the standard 48v?

Does it contain sugar? It doesn't state on that link.

President posting cartoons on Twitter. Good to see he's not wasting his time. Maybe Musk could look at that.

You're missing my point. Of course all jobs should be justified but it's up to the employer to justify, not the employee. That has always been the case. It's management who justify hiring, set targets and conduct appraisals. If an employee doesn't meet reasonable targets then it's management who determine further action. As for Elon getting paid, I'm sure he will be paid handsomely but he hardly needs the cash. Probably paid in Egocoin.

Just say to him we were all walking around like egotistical cretins waving chainsaws. No doubt you approve. 🙂 It's not up to employees to justify their jobs. It's up to the management to justify hiring them.