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Maybe our age and the times technology?  It comes down to proper teaching at all levels. 

This company is promoting technology expensive at that regardless and I'm not lessening a child's life.  

A long long time ago, in school we take field trips not in Vans, buses and public at that the Adult was taught how many student as we got on and off each was counted before the bus moved the adult ran through the bus to double check. 

When older, day camp, if you were 16 or older wanted to be leader we took younger kids on trips to the park many times on public buses taught this old fashion method same with Simply crossing the street. 

Today for example while driving we have reverse cameras they are great but when in doubts get out and double check the old fashion way especially for kids. I would teach others they must look after each other but as An adult I wouldn't assume or take it for granted. 

I agree with many as a driver of a van they have a schedule know the number of students a route when it comes to a life you take nothing for granted there are two doors you got to open on those van, sliding and rear open it and take a visual look! 

33 minutes ago, robertson468 said:

I think you must have joined the aged because your post does not make sense!  But there again you probably have very little responsibility other than for your self......oh sorry that it probably very hard work.  Written and submitted by someone who is 77 years of age and still running a Resort very successfully!

Bit sensitive you must be from government or was a half ass CEO that blood sucked your workers and claim it was done by you????

Your remark " no responsibility  " is the general view people like you who feel their S don't Stink. 

Here in Thailand why would anyone want to retired and run a resort just shows your level of thinking although you feel necessary to brag your not of that age yet just show when you open your mouth you validate my point! 

Do you have transportation?

I'm interested in how actually?  

Instead of flopping of his lips like Chan O who claim he could fix the traffic  in 30 days. 

Outline plus? 

Funny,  a bit off?

In my hay day not too long ago????

I use to see a regular at a GoGo, in the beginning she had no man so we spent a lot of time together.  One night she broke the news that she now had a guy living with her so our time was limited no problem it wasn't like she didn't have any other customers.  The Thai guy knew from the get go she went with customer particular Farang as long as she didn't go LT,  so I continue just adjusted my schedule. One night I get a call I go down to her work she is crying her friends said BF beat her up I ask why? Girlfriend said while the Thai guy was doing his thing with her she blurted out my name?  When he went through her Phone " Line " realized I wasn't a farang he went crazy.  LOL

27 minutes ago, mancub said:

Seriously...it's 2022 and Thailand has had 30 +years of highway infrastructure development and huge leaps in motor vehicle ownership. "Baby steps" with regards to road safety just doesn't cut it proportionately I'm afraid.

Correct,  now with Covid being not the main topic each day the focus on the real epidemic in Thailand is front and center again!

Baby steps are right once a year they get on their bandwagon this year finally W. H. O. are demanding more for the money that is given 10 million each year to improve than putting up some road signs. This year they are using NEW to replace the OLD but what is new is actually the same. 

It will never change in my lifetime as Rooster noted This week in his article Thai leaders don't want foreigners help just theIr money. 

Not matter what suggestion what law the people in charge now come from the same system how do you make new changes if you know nothing but old.  They raise the fine but the people who administrated and enforced RTP decided to rewrite it to suit them that is in Bangkok so with 72 provinces they also do the same in one month they will be back to the same same as Thai saying. 

Enable to fix or reduce the problem one must know what it is have alternatives my conclusion there isn't one Thai in Thailand if there is they are too afraid to speak out. 

This problem falls into just one chapter of a larger Book problem This is Thailand! 

Based on the comments here that is exactly why we have a field day with their logic! 

If the owners got cheap with the sound proofing " certified electrician "  I wonder how you going to prove the actual work?  " is this your work " 

" Mai " bye!  He said she said! 

Lots of burn out extension cords.  

Pretty much what you would find at any local market you think the over hanging wired are bad?????

Election or no election just a waste of time the result is already in plus even if it isn't those who come to power you got the same old same old from the swamp.  

Anything with the new and improve Governor of Bangkok,  anything new and improve in Pattaya with the new Mayor?????

The logo " scale of justice "  should be broken in half or tited heavily to one side. 

11 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

I'm for freedom of choice.  Seatbelts do more good than harm, but sometimes they can kill or injure.  To my mind, driving situations differ in the relative risks of wearing them or not wearing them.  In town, at low speeds, I'd feel safer without one.  On the highway, at high speeds, it's likely safer to wear it.  Passing through mountainous or watery terrains, I'd prefer to go without.  I've seen situations where people's lives were saved because they were NOT wearing a seatbelt, such as when a whole van with 16 people plunged off a logging bridge (not a high-quality bridge, and low to the water) into a river--all 15 of those wearing seatbelts perished, the one passenger without a belt managed to escape.  I do believe that these situations tend to occur less often than the other way around, but I think people should have freedom to choose for themselves.

 

So I'm happy if the traffic laws on seatbelts are not fastidiously enforced.

Good opinion but that is the reason for the problem here! 

You must have a crystal ball as to when it is safe and not which translate you know exactly the result will be if you were to wear one or not. 

Laws are pull in for s reason sadly Thailand like to copy other countries but don't have the necessary police system to enforce.

Rules are put in for a reason so if there is a minicus of a chance it happens.

8 minutes ago, gjoo888 said:

How the heck are Thai people that make 350 Baht a day going to afford paying a 2000 Baht fine, much less a 4000 Baht fine? It's easy to say to not commit the offenses in the first place, but more than a week's pay, or two weeks pay should be a crime itself. A fine of 500 or 1000 Baht would likely have the same deterrent effect, without taking away someone's ability to feed themselves or their family. 

True but this is the way it works here they got a bit correct,?  

In society you can't add the equation whether a person can pay or not. Rules are put in to create enough doubt to prevent a person to think about the lost?  That lost penalty must be great enough to deter.  Here it is the principal of scared tactics or honor system because if we see it so do Thais no enforcement particularly to collect at all cost without exception. They know the police is judge and jury their system courts don't have the time to deal with such little stuff their days are too busy doing what the police are doing which is nothing!  

They talk big if they actually enforced all their mandates the people would rise up and overthrow them. So when they can't pay " Mai pen rai " give me what you can a short lecture,  go to temple,  pad on the back and hope the honor system works.  

Then here comes a farang bye! $$$$$

On the week of the 5th,  they will make their grandstanding by the end of week they will do their show and tell photo media op as to how successful. 

But next week everyone will be back indoors playing with their phones. Once

a month they will do a road check which people can see and know where they are KM away,  As the holiday come up they will have a catchy phrase 5-7 deadly days but go on with your ways because the RTP will be under the tents playing with our phones in the shades on OT. 

By the beginning of next year they once again will scratch their heads where we go wrong? ????

2 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

You should join Soothsayers Anon......

I don't follow nor do I need to join any club,  what I plan to do in future is get my lap dance near the front door. ????

10 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I'm 6-8, the wife is 5-4. ????

 

Aside from their business then payment for exit row seat near door. 

I'm only 5'7 I try Deluxe a few times nothing special in fact I got upgraded a few times told agent I rather keep my old seat they were taken back but the damage was already done. 

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I've always wanted to give Cathay a try in the past... But every time I checked for a booking, it seemed that their prices to the West Coast were either VERY high... OR.... the more reasonable fares for some reason had LONG layover times like double digits of hours....

 

These days, with mainland China's increasing control over and intrusion into security issues in Hong Kong, as an American, I'm feeling a bit hesitant to want to voluntarily land myself into their clutches.

 

Pre-covid they had a number of flights out of Bangkok, the connection time departure and arrival very similar to Eva. I had a flight booked in early Feb 2021 the price was only 26,000 baht with seat purchased but it was cancelled with their flight crew problems and Thailand was pretty much shut down. Prior to going my last trip to PA, they hadn't started up their service to SFO but to LAX only and the price wasn't cheap but that was before July 1st, not sure if it changed?

Nothing against Indians, but connection out of HK, to SFO, at noon pre-covid the plane came from somewhere in India always a bit late and packed with passenger that lack common sense or manners but every flight I've taken since moving to Thailand and needing to go home it has been that way.

If the prices have gone down you might want to check out Singapore, prior to July 1st economy was insane running at 75,000 baht and up.

Nothing to worry about Hong Kong is a world class airport their transit is huge.

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I'd be happy to go EVA again if I could find economy flights in December under the $1000 per person rate... Last time I checked online, EVA's year end fares showing right now were running above that rate.

 

Transiting at Taipei Airport with EVA has always been a very easy and relaxing experience, with lots of no-fee places to relax, get some food, use wifi, etc etc... And their ground staff there has always been very helpful and usually proficient in English.

 

Also, their standard layover times at Taipei on flights to the West Coast seemed pre-COVID to almost always have been 4-6 hours -- which for my tastes was just about right!

 

 

I've in the past pre-covid ran through their pricing year round in my research, summer is the highest until September right after labor day then it drops, then going into November the price jumps until the beginning of the year second week of January it drops again. The beginning of Chinese New Years is when the prices or rock bottom if you days are flexible.

Remember, I know this for a fact, the prices originating from BKK is higher than if you originate from the States. As I noted I seriously doubt if you will find anything under a 1000  on Eva. I ran through their prices for the reminder of the year into March of next year running average 41,000 baht prior seat purchase.

Even at that price 41-45,000 I would pay that before I use PA again if not Eva I would look at one of the others I mention that runs through Japan particularly Narita, it the saving is great I don't mind a 4-6 hours layover. There is another carrier that goes to one of the other Japan airport you need to gather you bags and take the bus or train to Narita.  But I'm hoping and planning a trip in Feb-March again it is also low season for hotel rooms.  Yes, Eva is a great airline transit through Taipei is great compare to Japan.

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Thanks very much for those details. Can you elaborate on the security check and transit issues you mention above with Philippine Airlines?

 

When I price shopped lately for year-end flights to L.A. or S.F., PA had some of the best available prices for the route. But I've never flown PA before and never transited thru Manila.

 

Though the past reports I've seen of Manila transit and PA international flights themselves haven't overall been very encouraging.... And thus made me feel a bit reluctant to give them a try....despite the price.

 

When it comes to PA, I think they have a funny interpretation as to what the U.S. security?

I've flown transit to a number of places, Hong Kong, Narita, Singapore and Taipei, at these location their transits is like another terminal but in Manila the best I can say it is just one big room or terminal for PA itself?

PA, unlike Eva uses a Airbus 320-200 series, basically one walkway down the middle of the aircraft.

When you get off the aircraft don't be in a hurry because you could miss the transit area, basically if you are guided right you walk down some stairs to a waiting area. If you are going anywhere in the States you must report to this desk area, you will see people sitting and lying around waiting for something?

At the desk you give them your passport and boarding pass then took to wait near by until your name is called. Since I arrived at 3 am in the morning not a lot of passengers but my wait was close to two hours. Once you name is called you are instructed opposite side to go through security, basically take off shoes etc and put your stuff in the trays to be scanned. I was warned about all this by my brother who left a month earlier also using PA.  He had only a 3 hour layover was nerve racking to him but mines was 8 hours, I waited 2 hours before my name was called.

Once you are done there is a small entrance as if you are going to some basement basically they have taken all the bags you checked in at Bangkok to your final destination in the U.S. overloaded it and brought to this area for you to open and have it inspected and swabbed for drugs. Once done your luggage is taken to the your final destination flight.

There is a small elevator, which max 4 people you are taken upstairs to the departing area for PA flights. Once upstairs there are people everywhere sitting and sleeping on the floor not a lot of bathroom but constantly cleans and limited food to eat. This is the one large room for all departing transits or originating passenger from Manilla going out on PA.  There is no information board as to where your destination is going out of what gate so you need to ask. All flights department to the States once they know the gate they will ask another seating in the area to leave then security ropes the entire area off, within the rope off area is a security scanner station. Everyone now for example departing to SFO must line up outside the rope area and go through the security scanner again!  If you came from Bangkok like myself, they pull me over to the side basically stripped search me, open my hand carry and swabbed my belonging looking for drugs.

Before you go through the security check make sure you go to the bathroom, eat cause if you leave you must again go through the whole process again. To be honest the people were not the problem also once on the flight I thought the service was good not like Eva but it was good.

As for seats, you want a aisle or exit row you need to pay for them, the cost depends on the distant for example BKK-Manilla was something like 300 baht, to SFO it was like 650-1600 baht depending on the location in the aircraft. Not exactly sure but Emergencys exit rows are like over 2000 baht?

Once my brother called me and told me what he went through I try to cancel and rebook on another airline but the one I remember seeing on Expedia was Nippon the schedule was similar to PA and Eva.  There is also as noted Japan operating using ANA many of the others to the West coast through Korea the layover is long.  I also noted United, also code share with someone and the old Northwest?Delta flight now operated by someone else the cost was not bad. Best to check it out for yourself my memory these days.

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Thanks very much for those details. Can you elaborate on the security check and transit issues you mention above with Philippine Airlines?

 

When I price shopped lately for year-end flights to L.A. or S.F., PA had some of the best available prices for the route. But I've never flown PA before and never transited thru Manila.

 

Though the past reports I've seen of Manila transit and PA international flights themselves haven't overall been very encouraging.... And thus made me feel a bit reluctant to give them a try....despite the price.

 

As noted,  prices will drop normally after Sept 11th,  but not sure with things being what it is today in the world. 

This is normally what happens with Eva until closer to holidays but they seem to have set their prices from BKK - SFO/LAX around 41,500. 

As I noted, check Expedia EVA does provide seats for them to sell you might get lucky and find something cheaper than buying direct from them. 

I had a recommendation from a friend here in Pattaya travel agent speaks good English who helped with my last booking thought she did a great as t job. 

Same Like you lock down 2 plus years I recently booked a trip and came back. Eva has always been my carrier but they were doing lots of flip flop cancellations.

In May, although Thailand pass was still in effect I decided to shop around and take a chance and hope by the time I return it was over I got lucky. 

I ended using Philippines Airline price with seat was less than 28,000 baht round to SFO,  drawback was a 8 HR layover in Manilla,  I had just missed buying last seat with 3 hours layover. 

In the end, the flight was OK,  but never if possible will I use them the unreasonable security check for passengers going to U. S.  Then their transit area is a total mess! 

My cousins just came from West Coast and use Eva,  price not as high as it was but don't expect 26,000 baht like pre-covid.  There is no longer a PCR test required of transit in Taipei nothing required out of BKK except vaccination papers same when leaving 

U. S. 

Singapore's rices are high also not sure Cathay to SFO,  but does go to L. A. 

Go luck! 

I check Expedia,  by early seem to be best today,  Nippon,  had something similar to Eva,  Japan,  United. 

No solutions at all  dig up the same old hole put in larger drains to hold the water below so less flooding on the surface been going on for year throughout Pattaya. 

It is what you don't see type of thinking means the problem is solved it all leads to the sea when it gets there high tide it backs up nothing changes rain and drains are a black hole full of money for officials it doesn't matter who is in charge.????

Jomtien is operated by the same company that runs the buses at Pattaya Nua,  across from Bell old location?

Consistence!   With their thinking " you got it, you better off "

As noted only for 30 days consistent with length of most Tourist visit? 

Based on the list it seems they have added a couple of new things in the end for medical coverage I hope all Goes well it will be a real surprise six month after the well dries up after claims start to come in the down fall will be their own doing dual pricing mentality. I will be shock they actually pay out.  

The man means business, he is in charge the power has gone to his head with freshly dye hair at that and guess what he plans to run starting to like the benefits that comes along with the assignment. Smoke and Mirrors, grandstanding 

" Got to practice what you preach that goes for everyone in government " 

Last, in the photo don't turn you back " Curly " is about to put the shaft to your back?????

I did mines in Feb,  when picking up passport nothing was said or given like prior so I ask,  girl just said come back April. 

Like a good citizen I did what I was asked the prior year went to bank etc etc.  

Next day went back to desk 

(8), the normal person wasn't there.  Ask about the 90 days person just stirred " go get a number "  at desk explain need a number girl said " you don't need a number papa " 

Walks me back to desk I point to the person after a few words told to wait for this lady to finished basically the person who ran through the application and collected my 1900 3 months ago.  

I told her what I was here for she just stirred then took the paper set it aside and said finished. 

To be honest I don't know for sure but next year I comes I again will jump when they say jump? ????