falang07

OK, so once again and slowly, imagine this situation:

I have an offshore company (i.e. registered outside Thailand) that I work for online (i.e. by sitting in front of the computer and typing on the keyboard in my room somewhere in Thailand, or anywhere else, depends where I am at the moment). My customers are not from Thailand, the company bank account is in the country where my company is registered, i.e. not in Thailand. Any money I ever remit to Thailand for my personal use is always sent in the next year after they are earned. How in the Earth could I get a Thai work permit for such work and for a foreign registered company that has nothing to do with Thailand? This income is not subject to Thai income tax either, even if I would be a tax resident of Thailand and told them about this work, they are simply not going to tax me. So I might go and try to make a work permit, but based on what? It simply does not make any sense, and why would anyone bother is also beyond my imagination. If you sell on ebay and ship from Thailand, this would be of course different, but in case of service providers it is clearly not needed/possible.

Also, you say one can get a WP for online work and a work visa? Have you ever heard a single case like this done as a sole proprietor, and not the Thai company way? If so, why is everyone else saying it is impossible? Clearly, it is not that the person concerned cant be ar*sed to do it properly, but because the laws of Thailand did not/do not want to think about this, they would rather enjoy the benefit of a poor sole proprietor making a Thai company and feeding 4 Thais with it. I say no way, and wake up!

This means that such work is considered as done in the country of the delivery, and this is a general rule in all the EU. I suppose it is similar in Thailand.

You still do not get it, why should anyone make a WP for services provided exclusively to foreign clients when this work is not considered as done in the country where he/she sits behind the PC, but in the country of the customer.

For reference see e.g.: http://customs.hmrc....029955#P38_5204 --

2.4.1 The B2B general rule

The B2B general rule for supplies of services is that the supply is made where the customer belongs (see section 5).

2.4.2 The B2C general rule

The B2C general rule for supplies of services is that the supply is made where the supplier belongs (see section 5).

I suppose then that the 860 THB is the 700 THB tax + 160 THB for the connection bus to Don Muang, as they plan to offer a "free" shuttle bus to Don Muang from October 1st.

It is the price on the first screen, just the ticket, no specials added (they try to add them on next pages). So I wounder how did you manage to get 700 THB.

I am saying that a few month ago, I paid 700 THB airport tax when flying to Cambodia, now they suddenly charge 860 THB.

I booked a flight to Hong Kong today and the tax from BKK was still 700 Baht.

well, I just tried and this is what I got:Depart FD3712 Bangkok (BKK) to Hong Kong (HKG) Tuesday, 18 September 2012 Depart 0630 Arrive 1015 3,500.00 THB1 Guest @ 3,500.00 THB 1,000.00 THB Airport charges & fees 4,500.00 THB Total

well, then try it for yourself, just search for a flight from BKK to Phnom Penh, and the price will say Airport charges & fees 860 THB, no specials included.

He added that there is no “freelance” work permit, that one must be sponsored by a company. However, when asked about specialists offering advice for overseas clients in overseas markets, he felt that so long as they did not offer that advice to Thais or foreigners in Thailand that would be acceptable.

So, I was right.

And I have read a completely opposite article from an immigration officer stating that online workers do not need a WP since they are not interested in them at all. Go figure.

I am saying that a few month ago, I paid 700 THB airport tax when flying to Cambodia, now they suddenly charge 860 THB.

Anyone noticed that airport charges & fees have been changed from 700 THB to 860.00 THB?

I put up a post in the business section asking Sunbelt to weigh in on the subject. Hopefully, they'll have more of an official answer.

The only problem is that if you ask lawyers, they will try to sell you the most profitable option for them, i.e. the Thai company way, and perhaps try to convince you the cheap, sole proprietorship way is not possible.

I am sure she can cancel a will anytime, too, so not a big protection either.

Many thanks jean I know nothing about usufruct so will tell the mrs. However after visiting the place and seeing how remote and badly built the house are I am not sure if I could actually live there, she loves it though!

Chances are it was built that way on purpose so that you do not like to live in there in the end

10% tax including health and social security insurance? That is a bloody tax haven, everyone in Europe would take it, trust me!

It would be very stupid to shoot at someone with a BB gun since in case he fires back with a real gun, he can legally kill you without any problems in the court.

If it turns out too violent, a gun will be much more worth than gold anyway

People have been married happily for more than 8 years and still many times shit happens. We are just people, one day we love each other, and next day we hate each other. If you want to risk, up to you, but if I have to spend big money alone (i.e. if the house is not going to be paid from the money we earn together), I want to have it in my name, or at least half of it, but no way 100% in someone's name. And we can continue to love each other regardless of the money, as before.

Another think, I don't its very wise to talk to much about this thing on TV. You can be 100% sure some people are reading everything that are written here

Yes, I really hope that someone from the Thai government is reading this and finally realizes that Thailand could only profit if they do something about allowing foreigners working online to open sole proprietorships in here. If not, people working online can easily find other ways, and Thailand will keep loosing its share in their profits.

It depends what you're doing. If you're doing work and getting paid into your Thai bank account then they can see the money arriving in your account.

Seriously, I doubt anyone wise enough to be able to work online would be that stupid to get paid directly to a Thai account. If you have an offshore company, you get paid to the offshore bank. The thing about thousands being tracked and deported sooner or later is just bullsh*t, does not make any sense. These people spend money in Thailand, and Thailand needs them. If they ever change the law and allow them to open a sole proprietorship in here, Thai economy would gain even more of their money in terms of the tax and also services provided through the accountants etc. For now, this is a net income for the offshore countries.

OK, thanks for confirming my guess that FC accounts are NOT accessible online.

There are several thousand falangs in CM who work from their computers who do not have work permits. This number is dwindling as one by one the Thai authorities are tracking them down and deporting them.

Good luck.

Indeed? I very doubt it. How do you track it? I watch movies on my computer, I do not work. Impossible to track.