catweazle

Don't stop now, people kick off a $# itstorm over this case. There are too many blanks in this story!!!!

could be the corner of the hoe

8 times, the hoe was carefully turned by 45 degrees and sent in slowly for about an inch? Give me a break! Look at Hannah how she looked after just one or two blows! David's head is in tact, stab wounds are on the neck, jaw, side of the head and in the skull. The elongated shape of the wounds suggest a knife, respectively a stab dagger. I have seen similar wounds when I served the army and have no doubt. A blow with the hoe would have instantly killed him and he could not have drowned.

According to the website showing the lacerations, the angle of the stabs suggest a killer of similar height as David... ooops!

My wife found a Thai website yesterday with closeup photos of David. He has about 8 laceration marks on his head and neck that were inflicted by a very short knife, like the ones you can hold in your fist while fighting (will post photos later) between middle and index finger. The blade went in for about an inch each time. David also has a green eye (right eye), what implicated he was beaten up before he was drowned (water in the lungs). Nothing of this was mentioned or reenacted during that travesty showcase on the beach. It is time that Human Rights Watch steps in AND the parents of Hannah and David to stop this coverup to find the real killer who (according to voices on Koh Tao) is the owner of AC bar who is also one of the men who chased another foreigner into a 7Eleven telling him they will kill and hang him to pin the murder on him. If any of the police officers on Koh Tao has some brain, honor and empathy for others left, it is time for him to speak up NOW!!!!!

Are you a qualified forensic scientist that can make judgments on the causes of wounds simply based on photos on a website? Including the depth of penetration of each wound?

I saw those photographs to and would find it impossible to give the detailed analysis you did.

Depth of wound, exact type of weapon, how it was even held. You must be a real expert, have you offered your services to the police?

Sean McAnna - now there's a credible witness. A convicted pedophile, with a reputation as a heavy drinker, revisiting a island where he previously worked illegally. A man so concerned that he made all these statements, and then did a runner and disappeared, offering no evidence but his mouth and a phone pic of 2 men peering over a shop counter at him. Maybe he was telling the truth - how can anyone know that?

Or have you simply made up your mind it's a cover up and have a vivid imagination?

Bearboxer, ignorance is bliss in your case. Think it's no secret that you obviously don't like me since you have attacked without reason several of my past postings, thus the first thing I charge you with here is prejudice. Your biased babble won't be able to push me off course though, since I know where it comes from...

I never claimed to be a forensic expert, but the statements on that website were the ones reported by the investigators and closup shots show the lacerations. Only a complete imbecile, and you perhaps, would suggest that those cuts were caused by a garden hoe. The depth of the cuts were reported on that site, and I believe that is what I wrote. Reading skills would help.

The weapon used according to the findings on that website (not mine) say that most likely a push dagger was used like in the photo below.

As I wrote - this was neither mentioned in the stamenets of the accused or reenacted on the beach. All they did was reenactment of hitting David with a dagger, although David was stabbed to death (respectively close to death) and then they drowned him.

I have served four years in the army and learned some things and also have seen what a stab wound is and how a wound looks like inflicted by a blunt and/or heavy object. You bearboxer have nothing, absolutely nothing to teach me!

The Thais think that their reputation would be damaged if it turns out that these murders were committed by Thais. What they don't realize is that their reputation is being damaged infinitely more by the way they are trying to prove that the crime wasn't committed by a Thai. The world in general - and tourists in particular - don't care about the nationality of the murderer. They just care that the real murderer is caught. Framing innocent non-Thais just to close the case will do nothing to restore Thailand's reputation as a safe destination for tourists. In fact it will have the opposite effect.

Thailand's reputation almost is at its lowest low. This coverup will ignite international outrage and worsen the situation. I hope that Koh Tao, the mafia guys there and their cronies (the police) and everyone who was too much of a coward to speak up will suffer the consequences with all buildings on Koh Tao being demolished and the area turned into a national park by the army. In my opinion it also is a crime to not speak up when you see that an innocent person is sent to the gallows while knowing who the true culprit is. Koh Tao will be haunted eternally by this atrocity and the aftermath and go down!

My wife found a Thai website yesterday with closeup photos of David. He has about 8 laceration marks on his head and neck that were inflicted by a very short knife, like the ones you can hold in your fist while fighting (will post photos later) between middle and index finger. The blade went in for about an inch each time. David also has a green eye (right eye), what implicated he was beaten up before he was drowned (water in the lungs). Nothing of this was mentioned or reenacted during that travesty showcase on the beach. It is time that Human Rights Watch steps in AND the parents of Hannah and David to stop this coverup to find the real killer who (according to voices on Koh Tao) is the owner of AC bar who is also one of the men who chased another foreigner into a 7Eleven telling him they will kill and hang him to pin the murder on him. If any of the police officers on Koh Tao has some brain, honor and empathy for others left, it is time for him to speak up NOW!!!!!

This could shed some light on the story: Hannah's phone was given to the police by one of her friends the day after the murders: http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2014/10/koh-tao-murder-they-did-not-do-it-say.html

As a former case officer dealing with murders in the UK, any police force has to be painstakingly thorough when investigating murder. It is not made any easier when the media are clambering for answers - any case officer is between a rock and a hard place, believe me. Personally, I believe the Royal Thai Police have done a good job so far in detecting and charging three suspects with the murder of these two Brits.

Only the subsequent trial and hopefully conviction of one or more of the suspects will go to show how thorough the investigation went. I am glad the General has stated openly that the investigation team has worked hard and maybe 'rewarded'. A 'reward' may not be any more than recognised Police Commendations for the investigating officers - often done in the UK and elsewhere.

In many murder investigations there are many services engaged, including the Forensic Service, which is obviously a very important part of this murder investigation because of the reliance of corroborating DNA evidence, and possibly other evidence that the police are, quite rightly,holding back on divulging to the media.

'Bashing' the investigation team is totally unhelpful, without first hand knowledge of the progress of any investigation. In a tourist spot, this is made very difficult because the population is transient, especially with (illegal?) migrant workers engaged in the tourist industry. As I said earlier, investigation has to be painstakingly thorough to achieve the right result - time will tell, but with 'confessions' and re-enactments to be tested in a Court of law and with the level of media interest in this case, I am sure the general public will learn more.

Excuse me Mr.Case officer but your judgement about the RTP is just horrific optimistic

Cassde - never thought anyone could type that much naive nonsense in such a short time... Ignorance is bliss in your case. Completely clueless patsies walked and directed through the re-enactment proves guilt to you? Stop watching Care Bears, Bambi or whatever your muse is and open your eyes to reality!

If he had a brain, he would order that an international team of forensics and crime investigators do an independent investigation and not honor them for framing a few immigrant workers who not even have proper IDs. I'm very diappointed