KhunHeineken

The legislation has since been posted. I have quoted one clause of that legislation for the benefit of members. The debate continues on gifting as a tax avoidance strategy.

I agree with KhunBENQ. No need for a new laptop. If running a HDD, install a SSD, and possibly an extra stick of 8GB RAM, but that's optional, and do a fresh install of Windows, and you will be amazed at the speed improvement.

Did you bring that money into Thailand, and have the documents to prove it, or did you earn that money in Thailand, which also includes profits on the sale of a property?

I use Trend Micro, after leaving Norton for the same reasons you mention. I find TM pretty good. East install. Little to no effect on speed. Customizable with some settings. Choice of product. Reasonable price.

I posted about this. Not sure if it was deleted or the post never made it through. Doesn't this clause make the strategy that many want to implement a concern for them?

Yes, I use Windows. Just wanted to say that not everyone who buys / builds a high spec computer does so for bragging rights. (bigger penis) I do it for future proofing.

I mean, how compatible is it with programs, not websites.

Well, geez, such a difficult question, but I'll try to answer it. Maybe because they can now get some money out of Johnny Foreigner. You are still pushing the notion that they don't care 2 hoots. Have you ever known the Thai's to pass up an opportunity to turn a baht out of foreigners? just like cannabis, they have come up with a new earner. Deal with it. So you are saying it's all pie in the sky. Nothing will change. Foreigners should do nothing. It will all go away. Is that your stance?

Just read this. Any link?

No argument from me. I have already said one of a few strategies I will be implementing will be bringing in cash from Singapore after every F1 each year. Was just saying, if a huge percent of foreigners no longer remit funds but "gift" their Thai spouse, we can expect the Thai government to make some changes.

Looks interesting. How compatible and secure is it?

OP, I would like to know the specs of your laptop before I comment, particularly the processor.

I went a little overboard with the specs of my last computer build. The reason being wasn't for bragging rights, (a bigger penis) but for some future proving. An example is HD to 2k, to 4k and to 8k. Another example is fiber Gigabyte internet speed. Also, we don't know how resource hungry a future OS may be. Same as adding a larger amount of storage to cover future photos, music, movies etc. It means I do not have to buy a new computer very often. I get years out of the build because it can handle future technology as it evolves.

Well, I have just addressed your post to me before seeing this post. Are you baiting me?

Yes, of course it is. I have no links about it. I have never put it forward as fact. I have given my reasons for suggesting it. The main reason being, the tax policy is a total mess and unworkable in its current form, but maybe it was never designed to work. All it may have been designed to do is make foreigners pay for another document, either officially, or "tea money" and / or, create another service for "agents." Is it really that long a bow to draw when it's already been happening in other areas for decades?

If the cameras are powered over ethernet (PoE) make sure your NVR supports PoE over all channels. NVR's with PoE cost more, but everything is onboard and is an easier installation.

I think more information, and a budget in mind, is needed from the OP so some kits can be suggested.

Exactly my point. So no "flight of fancy" there. I am saying foreigners MAY have to pay the RD for the clearance certificate, in the same way we pay 300 baht for a Certificate of Residence. All immigration will do is require it, as it currently does other documents, before issuing an extension. An earner, officially or "tea money" for the RD, not immigration. You are still looking at the whole policy as being workable. It's such a mess that maybe we are missing what it's really all about. Just a simple way to make foreigners pay for another piece of paper. Maybe that's all it is. Maybe there will be no serious attempt investigating individuals for tax purposes, unless they are very high net worth individuals, or authorities suspect criminal behavior. If you think this is all "flight of fancy" perhaps you can post how you think the policy can work, in its current form.

I'm suggesting that if a high percentage of foreigners start using gifting as a tax avoidance measure, they will not make it illegal, but may then bring in a gift tax. Why wouldn't they? That's all I'll say.

Yes, I agree with this, but they make good money out of it in the tourist area, wouldn't you agree? That's coming from a someone who has just posted Certificate of Residence should be free, but cost 300 baht in tourist areas. If you mentioned this to a foreigner who has never paid for one before, because they live in Issan, do you think they would consider it a "flight of fancy" or a fact?

No. I am suggesting members research how to get one, where to get one, how long it takes to get one etc etc etc etc to prepare for the possibility one may be needed. That's all. Nothing more. Nothing less. In my opinion, such discussion would be beneficial to members, and if one is not needed in the future, then great.

Like I said, it just all may be a "tea money" scheme like the Certificate of Residence. The policy is such a mess it can't work in it's current form, but maybe it's designed that way so you just pay some "tea money" for your clearance certificate and you're on your way. No reams of photocopies of photocopies etc etc. Just maybe a bank statement that's not even looked at, some "tea money" and here's your stamped certificate for immigration. Members suggesting this scares them are being thin skinned. Immigration, and agents, have been doing it for decades. Maybe all this policy is about is another "tea money" revenue scheme, but for the RD, with the ability they can have a look at some individuals that are high wealth, or criminals. We may be reading too much into this policy and taking it too seriously. That said, I see nothing wrong with considering worse case scenario, and preparing for it, but that's just me. Some may see discussing worse case scenario as scaremongering.

I'm using a VPN for privacy reasons, for the very reason you had a look at where I am posting from. I'm in Pattaya, if you would like to know. It appears expats living in Pattaya don't "scare" as easy as others here. I don't even smoke cannabis, but all that "unsubstantiated crystal ball gazing and whatifery" over in the cannabis forum about how smokers may need a doctors certificate in the future very well may be scaremongering.

This tax policy is such a mess that we can expect changes in the future. I think we all know this. There's already been discussion on what the Thai government will have to change for this policy to even have the slightest chance of being even the least bit effective. A lot of that discussion was "unsubstantiated crystal ball gazing and whatifery" but still needed to be discussed. What does "on California" mean?

I have addressed this in another post that I was typing when you replied. It may not be as "scary" as some are thinking. Interesting how over in the cannabis forum they are discussing, at great length, what the government MAY do to the industry by way of FUTURE legislation. yet on this tax subject, very little latitude is given.