khunPer

On 1/31/2024 at 6:34 AM, Carly SA91 said:

Is Big C a good option? Open to all recommendations.

Makro use to sell vacuum-packed high quality Australian beef, for example Black Angus – I often buy it and in my opinion it's very tender and good taste – while Tops Supermarket also has (very) high quality beef meet, including Japanese (the price is probably as high as the quality, it's more expensive than Australian beef).

BigC where I live (Samui), cannot compete with Makro and Tops in beef meat quality.

8 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Thanks for that overview.  And yes what you wrote is fully correct. 

Two additional comments:

1 - If the procedure that will be followed in case there is no will at your demise, would be no different than how you want it, there is no need to make a will.

2 - It makes sense to make an overview of all your possessions/contracts (physical assets like houses/land, insurance policies, bank-accounts, etc.) and update that list annually, such that in case of your demise that it would not be a mad scramble to find out all of the above (with the risk of overlooking a life-insurance policy or a foreign bank-account). 

Thanks for your reply.

1) To my understanding: Correct.

2) I tried to make it simple by stating that all shared banks accounts goes to the other mentioned name (there can only be two names in Thailand), while all other bank-funds shall be divided as...

Furthermore I mentioned living cost for a periode to be paid to [name] before any sharing, and together funeral expenses (which is normally mentioned i9n a will).

I also mentioned my two Thai equity deposits – they are in two different bank trading platforms – where one goes to my daughter (it's her child savings) and the other to my girlfriend.

15 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

Your house registration book does not say "Status: Host (เจ้าบ้าน)".

 

"Status: Host" is the English translation you have chosen to use, but this English text does not appear in the house registration book.

7 hours ago, Liquorice said:

You've misquoted:

That was @khunPer that stated  - This is my house book in Thai language, saying "Status: Host (เจ้าบ้าน)"...

Yes, it's my House Book that says that,  see earlier post and images.

My Thai girlfriend also says that the word means "owner" in English. Alternative translations according to Google can also be householder or master...

15 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

Yes, you quoted correctly an incorrect text from an unofficial website, not a text from a relevant law or a Ministerial Regulation or an official communication from the Immigration Bureau.

The question was: "Why?"

My answer was that it's the law.

The quite was just to find an external source confirming my statement "it's the law" – no details were asked or mentioned by me – and I of course mentioned the source of the quote...

On 1/31/2024 at 6:15 AM, beautifulthailand99 said:

In the event of the death of the oldest sister if there is no will what are the potential outcomes.

It will follow the Thai law...

(Quotes from the book "Thai Law for Foreigners".)

16 hours ago, Tazmo said:

I have 800K in a fixed Bangkok Bank account for over 10 years now.

 

My concern is that if I become unwell and unable to access that money, how can my Thai Partner get access to it? Also to 200K which I deposited to the bank so that I can use a credit card.

 

We’re not married but live together for 4 years in a house, paid for by me, but in her name.

 

Do I need to make a Thai Will?  Through a Lawyer or just a witness?

 

 I already have a Will made here, in English and Thai, but my son is named as the Executor ( that cost me 6K THB 6 years ago)! Now to revise that will it will be 15K.
 

The Bank says that I need a Will, naming my wife/ partner, but then at the time of need she will have to go to a court for approval.

 

Grateful if anyone has dealt with a similar situation to advice please.

To my knowledge if the 800k baht is used for extension of stay, the account shall be i your name only and withdrawals cannot be made to anybody else. I your local immigration accepts a shared account it will normally need to be the double amount; i.e., 1.6 million baht. Upon death bank accounts are normally frozen and will be part of the estate.

A last will is normally recommended and for both parties. You don't know who might die first. If the is no will the inheritance will follow the Thai law. If you wife dies and there is no will you are eligible to half, 50 percent.

The two Thai lawyers that wrote the book "Thai Law for Foreigners" suggest that a foreigner makes two last will, one for any valuables in one's home country – following the rules of the home country – and another for any valuables in Thailand, following the rules here. It will normally be the court in the country with primary residency that handles the estate; i.e., if your primary residency is Thailand it will be a Thai court handling the estate.

For your 200k bank account/bank deposit with credit card you can change it to an account in both names – a question of trust – and state in the will that any funds in a shared account or in shared accounts fully shall belong to the other named account holder. I've done that for my shared accounts, so my girlfriend has a chance to withdraw legally.

According to the lawyers that wrote above mentioned book, you can write your own will in plain language or use a preprinted form. Always state that this will cancels all earlier made will/wills – eventually name it/them – and sign it and have it registered at the local amphor-office. You don't need a a lwyer for a last will to be legal.

1 hour ago, Liquorice said:

 

I didn't doubt your status translated as 'host', only that it's unusual and I've never seen that term used before.

 

Would I be correct in assuming you have a Condo with a Blue Book which you cannot be named in, and therefore obtained a Yellow book?

 

In my wife's Blue book, her 2 sons have the status of ผู้อาศัย, pronounced Poo Assai (P̄hū̂ xāṣ̄ạy), which translates as 'resident'.
In my yellow book, my status is exactly the same - resident.

 

 

There are no national standards in Thailand, and I suspect the terms used can differ as deemed appropriate by the operator inputting the information.

 

I own a house and only Thai residents are registered in the Blue House Book, while I was registered as house owner/host at the tessa ban-office. I'm the one to allow others to be registered in my house's House Books. When I shortly after applied for a Yellow House Book for aliens my status was as shown, host...

On 1/31/2024 at 10:55 AM, Liquorice said:

Blue or Yellow book?

 

I've never seen the term 'host' used in either Blue or Yellow books before, and I have a lot of officially translated House books.
The first person named in the book often translates to either 'Head of household' or 'Householder'.
Whilst others registered in the book often translates to either 'resident' or 'dweller'.

 

When I initially rented and not registered or owning a Yellow house book, I registered online using copies of my Passport and the landladies Tabien Baan and ID card as the 'tenant'.
Regardless of even being registered in a House book, the law makes it clear it's the equal responsibility of any person living there in any capacity whatsoever, which includes 'aliens'.

 

 

 

 

This is my house book in Thai language, saying "Status: Host (เจ้าบ้าน)"...

4 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

Sadly, the website to which you linked has a lot of incomplete and false information.

 

Preferably, you should quote from the law (Immigration Act), from Ministerial Regulations issued under the authority of the law, and from Police Orders, regulations and guidelines issued by the Immigration Bureau issued under the authority of the law and Ministerial Regulations.

But the quote is correct.

On 1/30/2024 at 4:48 AM, bbi1 said:

If the bum gun in the bathroom is leaking / broken, is this the owner's responsibility or the tenant's responsibility to buy a new one and put the new one in? I would've thought it's the owner's responsibility as the tenant has moved in and it was in working state. I think the tenant's responsibility is only for changing light bulbs if they become fused. Correct me if I'm wrong?

A new bum gun is about 100 baht – however, a bit more for the gold plated-version; while Lazada sells a gun only for 26 baht – not that huge disaster to pay for and solve the problem...

16 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Interesting.

All the married guys post that's what they do.

I don't doubt those reports.

I never bother as have fast track and not married. Defacto 10+ years.

Anyway my most recent entry was Hanoi to DMK.

Thought I would give it a try.

They waved me away as my partner was in front of me. 

Pointing to general entry. 

No problem. I was surprised. 

Not married might be the problem...

I never tried to get through with my girlfriend – we are not married – but I've used it with my half Thai-daughter, she has same family name, and it worked out fine...

17 hours ago, foreverlomsak said:

According to my local DLT office, Phetchabun, the Pink Card/Yellow Book ID No cannot be used for your driving license only your passport no can be shown, your office may be different of course, TIT, good luck.

Also my local SCB branch used my passport and not my pink card for my accounts so every time I do anything in branch I must have my passport with me, not sure if local rules or not.

17 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

After looking up my account, they stated they did not need the new passport, as my account is linked directly to my Pink ID card, there is no passport in their system for me.

Might be different in different parts of Thailand.

Where I live I can use my Yellow House Book/Pink ID-card for drivers license at the Land Transport Office, but my SCB-bank branch insists on using my passport; so does my Bangkok Bank-branch.

When applying for extension of stay the passport-number would normally be required in the letter from the bank, at least by the immigration office where I live.

17 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

For the retirees, have you lost or gained weight here?

Lost weight – gained a bit during Covid lock down – almost by now lost it all again...

6 hours ago, elfpattaya said:

I pay, as I have already told you 12,000 baht for a proper audited balance, I have the paperwork to prove it, maybe you should change your lawyer.

Accounting and annual report is depending of activity in the company and the price for that kind of service in the local area of the company – I just kindly said that it was cheap.

14 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Why is it the hosts responsibility?
That isn't what the law states.

The host – เจ้าบ้าน / "host" is the term used in the House Book – is the "housemaster" or whoever is "the chief possessor of a house...", which has the duty to report a foreigner staying there. If you are foreigner and also host/housemaster, it's your own duty. I have for example for example to report myself, being registered as host in both my House Book and in the TM30-online system.

6 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Why?

Because it's the law...

"The TM30 law is a section of the Thai Immigration laws that requires the registration of accommodations for foreigners residing on Thai soil, regardless of whether they are on holiday or living there permanently."

(Source link)

7 hours ago, elfpattaya said:

I had a house in a company name for about 8 years and only paid 12000 Baht Tax and Service per year, sorted out by my Accountant/Lawyer. I have now sold the house, but still have the company, and just paid the 12,000 Tax/Service for this year. I want to dissolve the company, unless somebody wants it, allegedly it will cost me about 20,000 Baht to do this. I have been advised I should do this in May.

Low price – it equals 1,000 baht per month – an annual audited balance can cost more than that amount, typically around 15,000 baht and up.

7 hours ago, Ste78 said:

so to take over an already registered company that has paid 2M capital, do I in turn have to repay the same amount?

You need to pay for the shares that you takes over – i.e. up to 49 percent – the seller sets the price, which might also depend on the funds and other values in the company. I.e., a question of negotiation about how much the company is worth.

Mind my comment about due diligence, who owns the 51 percent and how do you legally control votes or the company?

On 1/29/2024 at 2:30 AM, Ste78 said:

hello,

I've been living and working in LOS for a few years now, tired of waste money on rent 25k month.

 

Found a nice villa in a small city, so I ask for advice on where to go to open a company (or take over an existing one) and then buy a house.

 

I know I can only get 49% stakes, that's why I need a reliable lawyer / accountant.

 

thanks!

The company needs a proper business besides owning property, that is rented out to a shareholder. It might be risky to use a shell company for that purpose.

You need one or two Thai shareholders – I'm not sure if a total of three shareholders is still needed for company limited registration of property owned by a company limited at a land office – the other shareholder(s) shall be able to show that they have the funds to invest in the shares, as the use nominee shareholders is illegal.

The best was for control of votes in a company is by using preferred shares.

To form a company you will need a minimum of 2 shareholders and 2 million baht in registered (and today paid in) shareholder capital.

If you buy a secondhand company limited, get a lawyer to make due diligence, so you know what you take over.

A business law firm can establish a company limited for you, when you have the shareholders; you need to find them yourself. An accountant can also register a company limited for you. You'll need an accountant anyway for books and semi-annual tax report and the annual audited statement. Expect it to costs from 25,000, baht and up for that service per year, depending of the activity in the company. You'll need a rental or lease agreement between the property user and the property owner (the company limited) and pay rent to the owner. A rental contract for a longer period than 3 years need registration at the land office to be legal and will be taxed.

19 hours ago, Jinxed1 said:

But so far I've been struggling a bit to find the right lawyer, I've asked some big firms which seem to only follow the "right" way, so my question is do you have recommendations on who to talk to, or where to look ?

I've (unfortunately for you) never heard about that possibility or seen it mentioned anywhere.

13 hours ago, Kabuta said:

Arriving in Thailand soon and just took out a 1 year rental contract on condo in Pattaya

It's the host that shall register you on a TM30 within 24 hours. If the host won't do it, above suggested paperwork might be needed for a DIY TM30.

5 hours ago, webfact said:

At Hong Kong Airport, Get did not wait for Cindy and went straight to immigration.

Sad, very sad. The (typical) trick, heard about before. Always be (very) careful about carrying stuff or luggage for other people.

19 hours ago, Pappap said:

Have been doing my yearly retirement extension with the 800k method. I'm intending to change to the 65k per month income method. Theory is if I start transfering 3 to 4 months prior to this years renewel but still keep the 800 for this years extension then the following year I can extend usuing the 65k per month. Do I have to keep the 800k for the following 3 months before I can withdraw it as the extension this year will be granted on the yearly system? therefore do I have to maintain the 400k as well? and is there any other criteria needed in order to change from one system to the other? UK based. Thanks.

To my understanding for previous threads, you'll need 12 months of minimum 65k baht transfer when changing extension of stay-method, plus the 800k/400k/800k in the bank, which your present extension of stay is based on.

But as suggested in an above comment, talk to your local immigration office, the regulation can be interpreted little different by different immigration offices.

It's depending of what "too old" is..?

I'm 74 and can sometimes enjoy a live video of some of the old legends from when they were at their top and enthusiastic – like Ian Anderson and Jetro Tull in the 70s and 80s, or The Who with Kieth Moon on drums – some of them actually became better live a little later in their career, like Kieth Richard and The Stones, and the Cream, especially Ginger Baker.

However, I'm not too much into the vintage stage – some of what was good at that time, is not so good now looked with contemporary glasses – I rather prefers the newer dance music, or even some well-produced house music, at a venue with a well balance Front-of-House speaker system.

A not to slim housekeeper and a fat cook is okay; but the girls I date needs to be slim.