Yorkie

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Who told you that?

Unless that is a local decision to close on the 16th that is not a holiday and other offices will be open.

A Surin Immigration officer was the source of the information. "My wife called them yesterday (Monday) and told closed. Open on the 19th then she will go and pay my 2000 baht fine."

1 hour ago, ubonrthai said:

Forgot my 90 day report. The "7 days after" window expires tomorrow but offices are closed and the website appears to be down today. I was trying on a Mac with Chrome though and I read that I need Explorer. Does it open on Explorer today or do I just get to eat the 2,000b fine on Friday?

I don't know which office you use but I have been told that the Surin Immigration office is closed until Monday 19th April 2021. It would be prudent to ring on Friday to check.

1 hour ago, Advocate said:

 

Indolence and dereliction of duty are more likely causes. Too many bollxxxx is more likely than too many cooks.

You can use upper case "i's" for boIIocks to defeat the profanity filter.

27 minutes ago, Advocate said:

 

 

 

They have also been taking 30+ days to return receipts for mail-in 90-day reorts.

 

 

That could be because all hands are on deck to repair the buggered up website. "Many hands make light work" as they say. Or is it "Too many cooks make a boIIocks of the broth"?

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

The has been no culling that caused the number of pages in any topic to change.

The number of posts has not changed. The number of pages depends upon the size of each post done in a topic and the reduction could of been due the formatting of the pages.

Well, I don't know how I'm supposed to know that. I haven't been a ThaiVisa moderator for 13 years!

All I could see was that it used to be "page 335 of 335" and now it's "page 229 of 229"

22 hours ago, Yorkie said:

Given the massive recent increase in Covid-19 cases throughout much of Thailand, I'm surprised that they have not suspended 90 day reporting again. If not then bringing the on-line reporting function back to working order should be a major priority.

 

Latest reports today indicate that the number of cases yesterday amounted to 980 which were "discovered" in 62 of the 70 provinces.

17 hours ago, KannikaP said:

6 years and 229 pages, I think this post has run it's course by now. Close it please.

The thread has already been culled. A few weeks ago (before the forum "crashed") there were well over 300 pages.

1 hour ago, Advocate said:

 

Most of the Thaivisa respondents on this subject are sheep who just accept, cheerfully, and without complaint whatever dysfunctional and unacceptable services the IB delivers.

How many times have you been to the Immigration office(s) and voiced your opinions of their "dysfunctional and unacceptable services". 

9 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

If your in Bangkok set an online appointment, have your paperwork ready, walk in to MTT go to the second floor, show your appointment  confirmation, que up instantly, walk into the office as directed and sit at B-1.  within 5 minutes you will be done and back outside.  Takes longer to drive there and back from my residence (2 hours) than it does to do what I just said above.  Yes it is time out of your day, but then you can always mail it into them and wait for the return mail with your new report date.  I do understand the frustration, believe me, but what else can we do except pay an agent a few baht to go in our place.

As far as I'm aware from others, up here in the boondocks in Surin, we just rock up with our passport (into which is stapled the previous receipt of 90 day reporting) hand it over and it is returned with a new printed receipt giving your next report date. I shall no doubt be able to confirm that in 10 days unless this on-line cock up is rectified.

[Edit: We are not permitted to enter the office for 90 day report applications. Entering the office is restricted to extension applications and that is only for sufficient time to remove your mask for the photograph - then you're out again. Any documents which require your signature are brought outside]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

And today is the 9th of April with no current potential date known to those even at immigration.  I know I asked last week when I was at MTT.

It reminds me of a few years ago when I asked at the local PEA office how my electricity bill was calculated. Not even the boss had a clue!

Back in 2003 I asked in Bangkok Bank for internet banking. "You cannot have internet banking unless you have a wok permit".

"Why not?"

"Because Head Office says so".

"Has anyone asked them why not?"

"No."

24 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Hopefully you have read back a bit and found your answer - been down since February 17th and no official word on when it will work again.  

Well, there was one. Confirming 22nd March 2021 (some 18 days ago).

1 hour ago, Cataclysms said:

The system has been down since at least Monday.  Thailand 4.0... 555!

Wednesday 17th February 2021 I believe.

2 hours ago, flexomike said:

You can do your extension up to thirty days early and you will not loose anytime, it will start from the end of your current extension

Just for information Surin Immigration will allow extension applications up to 45 days prior to the previous expiry date. I believe that there are other offices that also permit that.

8 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

My office requires no TM47 or copies of documents, just your Passport and the last 90 day receipt.

 

As mine does not (Surin). However, I always take a completed computer generated TM47 which is in my briefcase just in case. Although I've only reported 90 days twice in the last 4 years (in person).

On 4/5/2021 at 3:55 PM, ExpatOilWorker said:

I did print it out, but I submitted that copy for my extension. I should of course have made an extra copy, but who would have thought immigration would have a month long melt down.

It has worked so smoothly for for so long.

When I visit Immigration whether it be for my extension, a re-entry permit, a proof of address or 90 day report I take my old work briefcase (long time retired now) which contains documents and multiple copies of such for the last God knows how many years. If the document that Immigration requires is not in that case, it does not exist.

1 hour ago, Oldie said:

 

Because my passport pages have endless holes already from stapling such things into it. 

How many endless things do you staple into your passport?

I don't think that your passport becomes invalid because of the number of holes in the pages. Perhaps I'm just naive,

8 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

What is your ❓.

Unless you change address  you no longer need to file a TM30 when you return to your address from trip to another province or trip out of Thailand.

 

When I spend a few days in a hotel in another province, the "owners" are required to complete a TM30 and submit that to Immigration. Does that change the address that Immigration have on file for me?

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

A TM30 report is not required now unless you change the address that immigration has in their records. That changed in June last year.

Although I have lived in Thailand many years now, the TM28 and TM30 requirements continue to confuse me (which could be my age, of course). Five or six years ago my wife completed a TM30 after being asked to do so by Immigration (no problem and no fine for not having submitted one for the previous 15 years). There has never been a TM28 submitted by me or on my behalf.

12 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said:

I had a downloaded editable format of the TM7 which I completed and saved in the PC, basically only needed a change of date and age, before printing, no problems with Phitsanulok Immigration.

After Phetchabun Immigration office opened, living in Phetchabun that is where I have to go,  "the TM7 (Extension of Stay) and TM47 (90 Day Report) forms must be handwritten" they said. Then it was you've used black ink, forms need to be completed in blue ink. Then we can't accept this TM7, it is not on our format, which has the Immigration appended colored stamps pre-printed on them.

The office are so pedantic it takes 30-50 minutes to vet my "retirement" extension paperwork, and I am going for the easiest which is 800k in the bank, and if you have a new form to complete and sign (of which there has been 1 in each of the last 3 years), it is get a new queue ticket and go to the back of the queue. Then they need to dot every "i" and cross every "t" again as if it is a new application, not just an extra piece of paper to be added to a pre-checked pack.

Apologies for the tirade, but it's good to get it off my chest, seeing that my annual extension is due in 2 weeks, and I am living the "nightmare" of "what else can they ask for, that I haven't thought of" again.

On the stupidity side my friend got new photo's this year for his extension, was told they didn't look like him,  and didn't have a collar on his shirt, he offered 2 year old photo's which were accepted.

 

 

I find myself now thinking that I am lucky that I live in Surin province . Yes there have been the odd additional forms to complete for no reason other than to satisfy the pompous bureaucrats but they have not been other than a nuisance.

47 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said:

Lucky you.

All depends on which office you deal with, some work an appointment system others don't, some work with racks of available forms others don't, with mine you've got to join the extension approval queue to get the forms you want e.g. TM7, and prove your entitled to them.

Whatever forms that I am required to complete I obtained from the internet and prepare them at home. Except for the odd nonsensical form which is only available in Thai that is. What is the point of me signing a declaration to confirm that I understand that if I break the law I may be prosecuted?

1 minute ago, clivebaxter said:

Similarly on the TM 6 they ask for a visa number, but it actually refers to the re entry number

I think that it could be either.

3 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

 

After 8 years, I still tell my IO my annual extension is NOT a Visa - I can explain, but I can't make them understand.

I tried telling a "visa agent" that a few years ago. I don't know from where they obtained my email address but I can guess. The dialogue from them was incredible. They just couldn't comprehend that I don't need a visa.

5 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I have picked that up from the posts on this thread but my receipt (from Surin Immigration) is like this:

 

 

Giving documents different names only causes more confusion in the ranks. And there's plenty already.

Lucky I did that. My next report date is 17th not 19th April 2021. Not important though as, if necessary, I'll be reporting in person on 20th.

2 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Immigrations choice of wording for receipt of next report date.

 

Some now do have to actually make 'appointments' to submit 90 day reports.

I have picked that up from the posts on this thread but my receipt (from Surin Immigration) is like this:

Giving documents different names only causes more confusion in the ranks. And there's plenty already.