bradiston

It seems the entry/exit point has been found. Next step will be interesting.

Yes, I saw the lights suggestion, and also a radio. They don't like some kinds of noise and lights. Maybe I'll experiment with flashing LEDs. And electric shock. But better to keep them out altogether. Will report back.

Great, thanks guys. Definitely will cut some access panels and take it from there.

Third time these critters have returned. They are extremely noisy. The local "cure" is mothballs. It's a wooden ceiling and a sheet metal/foam sandwich roof. I'm convinced the only way forward would be to cut a section out of the ceiling big enough to get head and shoulders through, and check to see just what is going on. Otherwise we're just working blind. There is a vine growing all the way to the top floor which is probably their access route, but nobody has ever actually seen one. Previous attempts to deal with them involved blocking their entrance but eventually they find away in. Any ideas? I've no qualms about poison/traps etc. I'm not in residence so I have to figure it out from afar. Thinking I might have to travel down there to try and sort it.

Omg. Blah blah blah. Rehash. Recycle. The endless sob sob story for Israel. What a joke.

I'm not as ignorant as you think. I'm sick of being lectured by you. You're talking 23 years ago. Anything more recent than that? I mean, effective finger lifting? Oh, you mean the $4 billion "aid" the US votes Israel every year? You didn't inform me of anything I didn't know. You overvalue your worth.

You're pathetic

Latest from Al Jazeera: "'Apocalyptic' scenes in Gaza as Israel intensifies southern offensive" 15 hours ago "UN warns of 'horror' and 'atrocities' as Israel steps up Gaza assault" 1 hour ago "The IHRA definition of ante-Semitism has no place on Australian campuses" 32 minutes ago And so it goes on. I can't post links from Al Jazeera.

"What actually happened"? Please, no links. "By all accounts" implies a consensus view. Now what's your problem?

Oh take a rxxxxxx jump. It was 23 years ago as I've already pointed out. And this form of belittling is called gaslighting. It's reportable but I'm not going to bother.

There are many. I don't run with any one of them as gospel. Do you? And I suppose anyone not aligned with the Israeli narrative becomes a de facto apologist for terrorism. I see this line of argument a lot. If I'm not with you, ie actively making statements that chime with your beliefs, I am against you. Well yes, you'd be very damned right I'm against you, but not against Israel nor Palestinians. I'm against the kind of bullying that goes on on this forum. You're somehow stupid if you don't see it the way others do.

23 years ago? And this is the result? Boxxocks to Bahraini. That's already been done to death. Clinton had Irish ancestry, like many US presidents.

The topic at hand is "'blatant disregard for basic humanity' in Gaza warfare". The article makes it clear this refers to Israel and it's recent (one of many) orders for large sections of Gazans to relocate. I don't see anyone's come close to countering that accusation throughout these 12 pages of comments. Just a lot of "stand up for Israel" comments, and the Arabs had it coming, just desserts, serves them right. The Israelis screwed up. They got caught napping, off guard, whichever way you write it. By all accounts, Hamas went way over the top, and also way past "a basic regard for humanity". But now we're here. Trying to eliminate Hamas at this point without injuring or killing hundreds of civilians and non combatants, is not going to work. The Israelis need to rethink this whole plan, which presumably they hatched given what looked like a golden opportunity. But it's all gone wrong. There are no command centres under hospitals. In fact it's possible there are no Hamas fighters left at all. The bombing is indiscriminate by it's very nature. There are no legitimate targets. Just houses and hospitals. It's a lost cause, Benjamin. See you in court.

So if you passed the hat round in a Boston bar collecting for Hamas, you don't think people would oblige? You amaze me. As the old cliché goes, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Ireland was partitioned. Catholic and Protestant, Jew and Arab. The US, in particular, Bill Clinton, were heavily involved in the Good Friday Agreement. But it seems they can't bring themselves to lift a finger towards solving the Palestine problem. Just tip $4 billion a year into Israel's defense coffers. A bit one sided? I guess not having any Arab ancestry in any recent potus doesn't help their cause.

In the UK we lived through over 20 years of proper terrorist violence. By the heavily US backed IRA. They bombed buses, trains, parks. What does Hamas do? Lobs a few rockets over occasionally. When they do launch a totally uncharacteristic style of attack, the whole world goes mad, and leaders from the west queue up to hand pat and shake. Now of course they're all grinning sheepishly as the death toll rises. Blinken has announced sanctions against Israeli settlers using violence against Palestinian land owners trying to force them off their land. A complete visa ban. Is the wheel turning? I hope so.

Yes. Musk has. A member of Congress was censured for using it. And also in the UK parliament. Banned in Bavaria. Everywhere it's being refashioned as hate speech implying the destruction of Israel. But Saar, Netanyahu and Ariel all use(d) it with impunity. The dice are loaded. There's only one way to vote. It's that kind of game now.

It is used by both Arabs and Jews. It's a complete nonsense to ban it. Half a dozen of one, 6 of the other.

Objection! I have no idea what you're talking about. The guy quoting it suggests it implies killing all Jews. My link gives a bit of background and context. I don't intend to give it a rest, but I'm happy to leave this thread. It's going nowhere. The Israelis are still committing atrocities in Gaza as we speak. The Final Solution is well under way.

Is that it? Just a dismissal? No criminal charges? Embezzlement? Wire fraud? Malfeasance in office (whatever that means)? No 10,000 THB fine? 4 months jail suspended?

Outrageously warped. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea

So the tally is, in answer to "Is the killing of 15,000 civilians and 6,000 children justifiable?" 1 confused, 1 thanks, 2 highly amusing. A very bizarre forum indeed!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_veto_power#:~:text=As of May 2022%2C Russia,cast in the Security Council. Mostly the US vetoing any condemnation of Israel. And here's the result. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel There are any amount of analyses of the USA's insane love affair with Israel. See Hitchens and Chomsky. They're very revealing. And you see it all the time here, on this forum, in the press. Israel, can do no wrong. Everybody else, can do no right. It's utterly childish, bigoted, stupid, ignorant. The whole Arab world is just a collection of terrorists trying to destroy the world... Etc etc etc

I don't think he bothered to read that far. Just give him the "I can't believe you didn't know" gaslighting treatment he's so fond of. People use it repeatedly as a means of calling into question other people's intelligence. A stock tactic on any forum.

Now you're being a pita. You failed to mention he was elected in the absence of any other candidate, and that it was for a 2 day forum. I know Iran's record on women's rights. You're not talking to 3 year olds. But I don't see the relevance of your waving this flag about it. Yes, the irony is stark. So is this part of your critique of the UN , or what? My point was the UN is unable to bring any pressure to bear on Israel to halt it's indiscriminate bombing of civilians. Naturally, you can argue about whether it's indiscriminate or just unfortunate. Either way, 1000s of innocent people are being herded into a ghetto and slaughtered. Warsaw Mk II. The Israelis should recall that. But Israel is in the hands of fanatics, just like Iran. Cue the confused and sad emojis. Are people hiring these obnoxious lurkers?

You've edited his comment to totally alter it's meaning. I can't believe you didn't know this was against forum rules etc etc etc.