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The level of shoddy police work added to the seemingly endless list of inconsistencies will mean some people probably won't ever be able to accept this to be true. They will forget in time, until the next incident anyway.

If a uniform is all it takes to convince you then so be it.

Criminal cases need to be compelling and precise in their delivery if the intention is to jail someone. This case has been akin to something out of a low budget movie spoof.

You should eat some humble pie. You never worked as a detective for a job.. you did not have access to all the evidence. You dont have years and years of experience like the Brits did. If they tell me its a set up I believe them. If you say something from your home without having access to all the evidence then I don't.

Has nothing to do with a uniform, just the difference between a professional with access to the evidence and someone who has only seen part of the evidence and no experience.

I learned a lot from my police friend (Dutch guy) how reporters almost never got the details straight and only confused the case more. This was in Holland a pretty good country all in all so I can only imagine how it goes here. People thinking that based on news they have all the evidence are laughable.

But I do agree the police here is not top notch that is why i put faith in the Brits (they send their finest) to discover if evidence has been tampered with or not. You obviously seem to think you know better as them better as the finest the UK has to offer.

With all due respect you have no idea what I do or what my background is. And newsflash mate the police here are human and are just as open to shoddy work and cover ups as anyone else. The difference is they are not as buffoon like as their Thai counterparts.

Over here there is a massive enquiry underway to investigate how multiple police forces have allowed young girls in social care to be abused and in some cases prostituted.

They have also been found to be complicit in the Hillsborough disaster cover up in which 96 football fans died at a football ground due to poor policing, systematic racism during the Steven Lawrence murder, not to mention a complete balls up case of mistaken identity which resulted in an innocent man having in his brains blown out at point blank range on a packed tube. There was also the trigger happy shooting of someone they thought was armed in which triggered the London riots. And if that's not sick enough for you try googling Jimmy Saville.

I knew personally, some people involved at the centre of some very well publicized cases in Thailand a few years ago that were also the subject of intense discussion on internet forums. There was so much happening behind the scenes and at a diplomatic level that was never reported. The end result was things were concluded earlier than anyone predicted. I asked an embassy official at the time about some of the speculation on the internet and was told most of it was way off the mark but they couldn't respond to it in the media without jeopardizing the case. The way the case was resolved proved the official correct. On another forum I still remember how two long time posters who seemed to be well versed on goings on in Thailand were endlessly commenting on one case. It all sounded fairly plausible but when you had some first hand knowledge it was clear they had little idea of the true situation. The information diplomats and police provide the family can be a lot more detailed than anything the best reporters can come up with so never take what you see reported on the internet as gospel.

Fair point and you may well be right. It just seems bizarre given how open they have been since day 1 that there could possibly be anything they haven't already disclosed. Press conferences and statements on almost a daily basis discussing the most grotesque details or developments. I don't think police forces anywhere else would behave like that and would rather keep their cards close to their chest. When you consider that and the perception of the country in terms of corruption it doesn't really matter as the house always wins. I mean look at that copper killed by the Red Bull kid. Clear as day what happened but over there it seems anything is possible with money.

The level of shoddy police work added to the seemingly endless list of inconsistencies will mean some people probably won't ever be able to accept this to be true. They will forget in time, until the next incident anyway.

If a uniform is all it takes to convince you then so be it.

Criminal cases need to be compelling and precise in their delivery if the intention is to jail someone. This case has been akin to something out of a low budget movie spoof.

The parents probably don't even have a clue. They will have been shown evidence from RTP. It's not like RTP will have shown hem their version followed by CSI LA/other and asked them 'so whadya think?'.

They consulted with the English detectives. Do you think you know more then they do ?

23 year old Hannah and her friend David Miller were killed on the island of Koh Tao earlier this year. Two Burmese men have been charged with their murder. Hannah's family said tonight they have met with the police officers who traveled to Thailand to review the case. They ask for the details of the case not to be made public before the trial and ask for their privacy to be respected.

They Thaivisa detectives again know it better as professional police officers from the UK who have seen all the evidence. Do you really think those UK police officers would lie to them ?

Had the UK officers been on the scene within 24 hours I would say no. But they rocked up late in the day. For all we know they were probably fed the same stuff. In a world where banks and financial institutions have been found guilty of rigging interest rates do you really think it's not possible for police in a country known to be corrupt to not fudge a case? Anyway I'm not really bothered now. The families need closure so they can move on so if they are happy with this then so be it.

Question to those who do think the right guys have been caught. If you have a hot gf or wife would you be willing to go to Koh tao and spend the evening drinking in AC bar? Not a chance in hell I bet.

Has anyone ever been attacked by one in Lumpini park? They look dangerous.

The parents probably don't even have a clue. They will have been shown evidence from RTP. It's not like RTP will have shown hem their version followed by CSI LA/other and asked them 'so whadya think?'.

I was in Bangkok for Christmas a few years ago and I was surprised by the decorations. It's a nice vibe and almost seemed more merry than back home.

I must say ''Edinburgh and London'' are looking beautiful with all the Christmas Decorations and just the General Vibe...

and of course, the Cold weather helps with the Christmas Spirit.....

Yes London looks good. But maybe it's having to go to work every day which makes it miserable. 5555

Maybe you should consider Krabi or Koh Lanta.

Stay on long beach or laem tong. On tonsai you can find some nice places but you will generally be surrounded by backpacking party animals. Don't even think about staying near loh dalam. Paradise ruined.

For that budget maybe try somewhere on laem tong beach or Outrigger

So is all the ice cream in Thailand using soy milk then?

Ice cream is usually made from emulsified vegetable oil.

No dairy products.

Ok thanks. I've assumed all these years that there was some dairy products included.

Good info people. I had planned on checking this out on my upcoming trip.

So is all the ice cream in Thailand using soy milk then?

^^ I know a good reliable driver in Patong. I've used him a few times.

Id give her one.

Relax mate was only messing.

Thanks but I would still like to know if samui has been affected by this as well.

Maybe they need to plant a sniper on the roundabout and pick off a gone who fails to give way to vehicles approaching from the right.

I find it shocking that road safety is treated with such disregard. Shocking but also not surprising.

Supposed to be spending a few weeks in Phuket in the new year but all this umbrella nonsense has got me thinking to maybe try somewhere else. Has the same stance been taken on Koh samui with regards to deckchairs and umbrellas? Specifically I am interested in lamai.

Thanks

Well I suppose you have to give him credit for trying.

So umbrellas will be free but mats will be available to rent? Just to be clear what happens if we bring our own mat? 5555

Honestly this whole thing is ridiculous. There must have been more important things to target than each chairs and vendors? They could have worked something out in low season, had a while to put in place a proper plan that would keep tourists happy and ensure legal and correct protocols were being followed. Instead they pack everything up and are now struggling to organise themselves.

And all you 'locals' can get stuffed too with your "it looks so much better now". There are plenty of beaches in the south if you want the natural look. Plus It's the tourists that make that town go around not you ex pats drinking cheap ass beer on some bar down nanai.

Just out of interest has the same thing been done over on Koh samui?

There should be a country carved out specifically for religious nutters to go off and fight each other.

Read that they are going to be providing umbrellas to everyone for free however mats will need to be rented out. Works for me as the main concern was being able to lay in that heat without any umbrella.

Some lady drinks in the tiger bars were up to 250 bhat last time I was there in January.

I read on Thai visa that the UK police had already returned, there's some crap go's on, with some people on this site, putting all that aside, let's hope that we can hear something new from their report, instead of half the crap we hear already, and without a lot of the Facebook shit that people spread

The facebook shit as you put it is more credible than anything on here. To post on the facebook shit you need to have your real name. Here you can be anything you want.

What a croc of shit, you don't need to have a real name to post on face book, my friends 10 year old son is on face book says hes 16 and uses another name, all you need is an email address, see that's face book shit for you there

Please expand on what rumours you have read on Facebook. If your referring to CSI La all I can see is a series of interpretations based on information made known to the public by RTP. Interpretations which have been well received by many including resident Thais.

Judging from your ability to construct a sentence I can see how that may be incomprehensible to you. Rest assured you are not the only one.