JeffreyMcCollum

Which one you thinking of getting?

Will be interesting to see how it goes for you.

Good Luck

Ares 110 Just like a wave

Given how cheap, reliable, available and easy to sell a Honda Wave is, why you would do this? Don't get me wrong, it will be interesting to see how it holds up but if it turns out to be a dog then that's quite an inconvenience. And if it holds up well, you've still got a bike which is harder to get spares and harder to sell.

Just interested why you'd choose to buy a bike that has a cheap, proven alternative on your doorstep. I can understand people doing it with something that isn't available here. Or if it's say, less than half the price of the Honda. Otherwise, it's seems like taking a risk for the sake of it.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing how it holds up. On a copy of such a simple bike then I guess it should be OK. Good luck.

buy a normal wave that gets 62km+ pL and you will have saved the differnce in fuel prices by the end of your 20,000km

with the pgmfi engine vs the oldstyle carb in the chinese bike

if anyone were to buy a 600 or 1000cc bike from china and try to ride 20,000km in a year in thailand it would make interesting

reading but i dont know if anyone is crazy enough to do that yet

Normal wave 100 is rated at 57 by Honda. My guess is real world low 50's

And where you say I would save, I ask based on what facts ?

With this test we will see and I will share with all

Good or bad, it will be here

Given how cheap, reliable, available and easy to sell a Honda Wave is, why you would do this? Don't get me wrong, it will be interesting to see how it holds up but if it turns out to be a dog then that's quite an inconvenience. And if it holds up well, you've still got a bike which is harder to get spares and harder to sell.

Just interested why you'd choose to buy a bike that has a cheap, proven alternative on your doorstep. I can understand people doing it with something that isn't available here. Or if it's say, less than half the price of the Honda. Otherwise, it's seems like taking a risk for the sake of it.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing how it holds up. On a copy of such a simple bike then I guess it should be OK. Good luck.

I purchased 3 honda's in the last month alone. This is just to see what will happen . .

^average of 285 km a day you must live on your bike

It bikes, not bike. 4 times a month I do 1000 km days and a time or two a week I have to do 500km days. Tomorrow is a 500 km day, today was only 150 on the Ares, (100 on another)

The dealer

There are dealer in most areas of Thailand now with more on the way. Clearly it will never be the same number as Honda has, but more in line with Kawasaki or Suzuki at this time. They are there if you look for them but not on every street corner next to the 7-11

I chose to use the Lifan dealer in Tak. Before I purchased I stopped in no less than 10 times. The sales lady there was always helpful, and spoke good enough English to carry on a conversation. I had stopped in a few days prior and they just had received a truck load of bikes with well over 70 in stock. 3 days later when I returned, nearly half had been sold. In stock they had V-twin 250 choppers, A 200 Motard, 200 cc street legal endure, a half dozen small KSR like things, and 2 styles of “Wave” like 110cc bikes. I chose the lowest cost one in the shop. A shiny new Lifan Ares 110cc for 29500 Bt. 29,700 out the door with basic insurance, book, plate, and tax.

This dealer is about 4 blocks just down the street from the bus station and about 250 km from home. Enough to get there in a day and return with a good initial impression.

When I go there, 3 other customers were in the process of purchasing a bike too. They were polite, offered coffee or water, and an air conditioned room with TV. I walked across the street to KFC and by the time I returned in 30 minutes, all the paper work was done and the bike ready to go. I was offered the usual free helmet that does not fit my head, good for a spare if I loan out a bike some time or for my daughter.

The purchase process couldn’t have been easier and they told me 2 weeks for the plate and book. We will see, and it will be a nice run back down for my first oil change and a once over by then in their service department.

After I drove off I checked the bike once over, everything seemed OK, The tires were at 22 and should be 33 front and 32 back. 1 mirror was also lose

I was just there a week ago. easy as Pie my second one from there

1 year that if done correctly can be 15 months worth of time

wow, 20.000 km in a year....i drive <2 km every 2nd day which pan out to about 350 km per year,

split between 3 bikes

Last year I did 105,000 km in total

Which one you thinking of getting?

Will be interesting to see how it goes for you.

Good Luck

Ares 110 Just like a wave

Anyone know where I can find a 7-11 ?

Hate to rain on your parade, but do you have a work permit ?

10 months no plates on 1 car and 8 months on the other. Over 60,000km and no problems at all

1 year on a lifan

I would quickly say I have had over 50 bikes in my days. With a little thought I came up with over 100. I have had a bike from Taiwan, and the worst bike I can ever remember was my Tiger CX125 made here in Thailand from a Thai company still barely kicking around. It literally fell apart as you rode it

Having been around a while I remember back in the 60’s and early 70’s everyone joking about Japanese bikes like Honda when they first came out. Now many would say the bench mark, but with sales far surpassing everyone else combined, everyone has to admit if you like them or not, they are doing something right.

70’s and 80’s people joked about Hyndai and Kia. Clearly they too are well in the game now and have entered the ultra-luxury market of cars

So why is it Chinese bikes get no respect ? The low cost ones provide transportation to those who could not afford it otherwise. And some companies are now offering top notch 600 supersports and just recently 1000 cc sport bikes.

So just after driving 17,700 km on a Honda wave last year alone, I thought now would be a good time to buy a Chinese bike and give it a good run for a year. My goal would be 20,000 km. That should be enough to see if it can stand the test of time.

AP Honda claims available mid Feb.

Honda has revealed a new supermoto version of the new CRF250L in Thailand dubbed theCRF250M.

Like the L, the CRF250M uses re-tuned version of the CBR250R‘s engine, a liquid-cooled fuel-injected 249cc Single. When we dyno’ed the CRF250L in our recent 2013 250cc class dual-sport shootout, we measured a peak of 20.3 hp at 8700 rpm and 14.0 ft-lb. at 5800 rpm, so we expect similar numbers out of the CRF250M.

The CRF250M is equipped with 17-inch street tires instead of the 21-inch front and 18-inch rear knobby tires that come with the CRF250L. The suspension will have been adjusted for the change in wheel sizes but the M retains the CRF250L’s upside-down fork and Pro-Link rear suspension.

Everything else is essentially the same as the CRF250L, including the steel twin-tube frame, exhaust, and LCD instrument panel.

The CRF250M will come in two color schemes: black with red and all-black. Both come with black forks compared to the CRF250L’s gold tubes. The all-black version comes with gold wheels while the wheels on the black and red version are black.

At the moment, the CRF250M has only been announced for Thailand, where it is built alongside the CRF250L and CBR250R. Honda will likely introduce the CRF250M to other markets, though no time frame has been announced.

As reported in Motorcycle.com

Best just to keep driving by Mad Dog

PTT is ramping up production of 95 benzine

Drove from Pattaya to Chiang Mai yesterday and found it all the way, Not every station yet, but not really a problem

Drove from Pattaya to Chiang Mai yesterday

I used Benzene 95 all the way. Not 95 gasahol. stations are caring it, And PTT says they are ramping up production. only a few baht more per lt

Just back from a Honeymoon (and Visa run) in KL

1 person from the airport to Central KL area starts at 50 RM (500 Baht) Price depends on Number of people and bags and where your going, as well as cab choice.

Money exchange sucks at the airport. The rate is about 10-1 Airport gave 8-1 In town I could find 9.8-1 at Western union, twin towers mall lowest floor. Even the exchange at the Thai airport is better. Change a little and do more there

ATM's are not everywhere like Thailand you have to look

Not sure of all areas, but in central area Taxi's were easy to find and only a few annoying No meter ones. The blue ones were always the cleanest and best.

Hardly any traffic

We stayed in the Tower area and very friendly to walk around. The Towers, and Park are both must see.

We did go to china town and TIme Square also for shopping, TIme Square being the lowest cost

Had a good time and will be back again

Forget the Prison like wall and get land in a good safe neighborhood

What a sad bunch of people we have here. I always stop and always help, Even when I can't speak perfect Thai.

Always feel good inside I did help. Usually they just say No problem and you wait around a little bit then head off.

But I too have been in accidents and always happy when others have quickly stopped and asked if I needed help even when they could not speak English. A few times I did need help

How would you feel if it was your wife, mother, Daughter, and no one stopped to help and they were left to Die ? Just like what happened in India recently . . .

What a sad state it will be when everyone has lost all their Humanity

Why don't you consider staying on-topic and keep your irrelevant opinions out of the discussion?

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I thought the discussion or reason for it was about medical care for an American Living here.

Thought I would try to help. Lived here a while now, from America, and not working. So it sounds like I fit the question very well and use the Thai Health care system, and remember there are 3 of them in Thailand,

And Ambulances take you to the nearest "Government Hospital" Not private. Only a direct call to that hospital to take you in their Ambulance will get you to their.

But clearly you don't seem open to learning anything new and wanting to misguide others.

Oh Good grief !

Pay your Thai medical. It is only a fraction of what your co pay would be. And I do live here and get covered under the government plan. Good care and OMG $1 a vist

Congrats. People coming here on retirement status here can't buy into that.

I didn't buy into it. Government gives it to me free as they do many expats

Based on what? Anyway, I am sure an expat moving to Thailand starting on a retirement extension is not getting into the Thai government system, buy in or not. I realize that some foreigners are on that system. This thread isn't about that. It is about American MEDICARE. Cheers.

Based on what ? Are you a Thai Medical insurance expert ? DO you even Speak Thai ? Have a home here ?

Where I won't say all Expats, in all areas, I don't know for sure, but many of my friends have it too or are waiting to soon get on it

Purchased a house, was given the card, so was my wife. Bet you still think expats can not buy a home in Thailand too.

If you want the restricted Medicare plan please do us all a favor, Don't worry so much about it and stay there

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Here's an example of one good reason why Part-B is worth having.

A retired American friend fell and broke his hip while visiting in Bangkok. He was immobile and taken to Bangkok Hospital. The doctors put three screws in his hip so the bones would start to fuse together and heal. The cost of the initial surgery was the equivalent of US$5000. It was covered by his state-side insurance (Medicare Advantage) because it covers a person who is traveling. Medicare reimburses his private insurance company.

Three months later it was discovered that one of the screws had migrated and was about to enter the hip joint, which would cause severe pain. The surgery would cost US$15,000 in Thailand, which he would need to pay up-front out of his own pocket. The state-side insurance was only good for the initial operation and would not cover the second surgery.

He went back to the states where doctors discovered that no healing had taken place and recommended a complete hip replacement, which he decided to do. The entire cost was covered by Part-A and Part-B, with the exception of medication.

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Rubbish Is this story make believe ? First he started going to the wrong Hospital. Mistake 1

Oh Good grief !

Pay your Thai medical. It is only a fraction of what your co pay would be. And I do live here and get covered under the government plan. Good care and OMG $1 a vist

Congrats. People coming here on retirement status here can't buy into that.

I didn't buy into it. Government gives it to me free as they do many expats

Oh Good grief !

Pay your Thai medical. It is only a fraction of what your co pay would be. And I do live here and get covered under the government plan. Good care and OMG $1 a vist