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Mine has been nagging me for updates via the app

I have had solar and batteries for 7 years now. Most people usually think batteries are to cover night time usage, but in fact their primary benefit is to act as a buffer storage for your solar production. e.g. Your load for 12 hours of daylight is 12kWh and your solar production is also 12KWh. So you might think you can cover your energy load 100% from solar, but your load will vary wildly during the day as will solar production as the weather changes. A small battery will help cover spikes in household load, cloudy times and wasted solar production that has to be curtailed as it exceeds demand. I would strongly advise adding at least a 5kWh battery to any solar system.

A larger inverter can mean that you can more easily expand your system cheaply with a few more panels. One thing that is often overlooked is the voltage requirements of the inverter. Inverters come with a minimum and maximum voltage range. So you not only have to consider the wattage of your panels but also ensure that the combined voltage of your panels match the inverter.

The cars aren’t even a year old yet. They know that they come with a free first year insurance so maybe we have to wait a few months

The MomoSpace comes with it’s own app and works fine as a stand alone system. My plan is to have a smart home display that shows energy usage in real time. Zigbee is a smart home communication protocol that requires a Zigbee gateway like Home Assistant, so I would recommend Tuya wifi and then the information would be displayed in the Tuya app with any other Tuya devices that you might have. All your monthly PEA bill tells you is how much energy you used in total. It doesn’t tell when that power is being used or which devices are using the most power. So you might think that your 700 units (kWh) bill for the month = 1 kWh per hour usage and on that basis you buy 5kW of PV and a 5kW inverter. Then you find out that your old inefficient aircons that you only run at night are actually using most of the power.

Here is a system I installed a few of years ago If I was installing it now, I would probably choose something that integrates with a smart home.

You have just demonstrated your total ignorance of solar. PV has a 20+ year life. I already had them for 7 years without any issues. As for batteries I chose LFP chemistry that have a 6,000 cycle life, but as I treat them gently and only use them down to 50% DOD that equates to a cycle every 2 days. You do know what the word recycle means don’t you? If so how is reusing the material I supported my comment with a citation clearly showing that SMRs have major issues. However your about solar was just your uninformed opinion with nothing to support it.

As of 2023, only China and Russia have successfully built operational SMRs The US Department of Energy had estimated the first SMR in the United States would be completed by NuScale Power around 2030, but this deal has since fallen through after the customers backed out due to rising costs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_modular_reactor Clearly Thailand should be concentrating on Solar and battery storage. Here we have access to cheap Chinese Solar and Batteries without any import duties and being located in the tropics we have good solar production for most of the year. I have had solar for 7 years and I am off-grid (no meter) with all power being produced by solar supported by backup power from my EV.

I often see quoted in this discussion by people who don’t own a EV in Thailand that EV insurance is crazy expensive and that EVs depreciate at an alarming rate here in Thailand. So I thought I would post a quote and insured value for one my EVs. It is an MG HS PHEV X with a 17kWh battery and it’s now 3 years old. Maybe other EV owners can post their quotes to do a bit of myth busting?

The thread was: Thailand Faces Economic Question: China and EV Cars in Thailand News His name was @WDSmart this is the car he wanted. I’ve already sent him the link

Thanks for this @Crossy very helpful. Questions about this come up all the time.

China Observer is a notorious anti-China Channel, they never post anything positive so they never give a balanced view. Most of the cars shown in the video aren't even BYDs! It's just a bunch of clips off the internet stitched together with a commentary over the top with no links to news articles. You would have to be a complete idiot to accept the video on face value without asking any questions. My BYD is currently outside charging so I just tested it for "electrical leakage" and found none - surprise surprise. All the BYDs sold in Thailand have 5 star euroncap ratings

No you asked if anybody else had any suggestions

I already send you the link to the Thai Website - why you didn’t bother to click the link? https://www.wulingthai.com/

Some people seem to forget that they are living in Asia now. I don’t see much investment here by US and EU companies.

Yes there are a lot of EV owners of AN. I have yet to see a single EV owner hanging out in a diesel truck discussion trying to convince people to switch to EVs. However I see every day dozens of EV haters hanging out on EV discussions sharing their ignorance.

You could try putting “Wuling Thailand” into Google: https://www.wulingthai.com/ If you can stretch to ฿500,000 I would recommend the Neta V

Still worrying that there will be enough electrons for all those EVs? Here is an article by the UK’s National Grid that you should look at. They don’t seem worried to me. https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/journey-to-net-zero/electric-vehicles-myths-misconceptions Thailand aims to add more domestic production of renewables and EVs which are batteries on wheels can help with that transition. I currently have one of my EVs sending power back to my house. https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/thailand-energy

To anyone feeling ignored, please be offended

How many times do we have to explain this. I have must have posted this answer 20 times in this discussion. People who don’t own EVs clearly don’t understand how the grid works. Power usage is not flat it varies during the day. That’s why PEA/MEA are happy to sell half price electricity at night. EV owners aren’t stupid so they charge when it’s cheap, ie when supply exceeds demand In my case I don’t have a grid connection because it’s much much cheaper to power my 450m2 house, 2 EVs and an electric motorbike from solar. Solar in Thailand is expanding rapidly due to cheap imports from China. If you don’t believe it, then open your eyes the next time you go into Thaiwasadu or a similar store. If PEA were concerned about the proliferation of EVs they would make it difficult for people to hook up EV chargers, that is not the case, the last time I checked they were offering free TOU meter installations.

Tesla has a history of rapidly adjusting prices to match market conditions almost everywhere, except in Thailand. The only price adjustment here for the model 3 came a week after the launch of the BYD Seal which at launch sold more cars in a week than Tesla had sold model 3s in the whole year. RWD Model 3 in Aus was ฿1,424,995 now is ฿1,328,325 way cheaper than in Thailand The BYD Seal AWD Performance is a ฿100k cheaper than the RWD Tesla in Thailand before the extras that you have to pay with Teslas: Paint, Wheels, Wall Charger, insurance etc. and you don’t get bi-directional charging as you do on BYDs

You never see these signs at an EV charging station. They just don't get it do they!

Unfortunately Lee 65 is not interested in real world evidence. He keeps quoting a couple of Chinese studies, so best to ignore him. The recent video of a BYD Seal being rolled at high speed into a concrete post did not result in a thermal runaway event or even any injuries and that’s good enough for me.

You’re right can’t be happening as my EV and house batteries are Lithium Iron Phosphate not Lithium Ternary.

The car is a Neta U which is not sold in Thailand. So yet another post from the illiterate FFFF (Fossil Fuel Fanatics) The title of this discussion is "EVs in Thailand"