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Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Did you miss that I said: “increasing taxation on fossil fuels to fund a transition to cleaner fuels” so how would it be a “death knell for the EV industry” if we are increasing subsidies for EV adoption? -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
NETA S SPORT ELECTRIC POWER SEDAN RANGE 650-710 KM It will be at the Bangkok Motor Expo 2022 December Anyone else going to be there? Read more ???? https://bit.ly/3E5clvO -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
An alternate approach would be taxation to cause a change in behaviour. Raising the price of cigarettes reduces consumption, especially by the young and the poor, thereby improving public health and reducing socio-economic inequalities in smoking. That is one reason why governments around the world have raised taxes on tobacco products. Increasing air pollution levels increases the risk of lung cancer and respiratory infections. So increasing taxation on fossil fuels to fund a transition to cleaner fuels will result in lower government health expenditure. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Come on @fredob43 this discussion on EVs in Thailand has over a thousand posts and you think you are the first one to suggest that there are not enough charging points in Thailand! You can't be bothered to look though any previous posts yet you expect those of us who own EVs to answer the same question every couple of weeks! The reason you haven't seen any charging points is you aren't looking for them. You don't have an app on your phone that show you where they are. As an EV owners I can confirm as a fact that there are more EV chargers in Thailand than there are EVs needing to charge. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2022 THE NATION SLEEK EV, a leading Thai-Singaporean electric motorcycle manufacturer, recently launched in Thailand The company aims to establish battery swapping stations nationwide At the SLEEK launch event, the company also introduced the S Pods and the S Pods Home battery swapping stations. The network of stations will be available at gas stations, shopping malls, restaurants, and coffee shops, within 7-9km apart. SLEEK aims to roll out in Bangkok first, with a target of 225 locations by the end of 2023. Users can use SLEEK mobile application to get their vehicle information, and locate service centres and S Pods stations. SLEEK EV also announced business partnerships with Bosch Thailand, who will support the SLEEK’s electric motorcycle development, and with Pro Concept Manufacturer (PCM) who will jointly establish a motorcycle assembly and battery manufacturing factory in Thailand. SLEEK EV has also partnered with Bank of Ayudhya, which operates under the framework of Environmental, Social, and corporate Governance (ESG), to provide loans with exclusive interest rates to SLEEK customers. SLEEK EV now has authorized distributors in 22 provinces and expects to have service centres and dealerships nationwide within the first quarter of 2023. https://www.nationthailand.com/pr-news/more/pr-news/40020356 https://www.sleekev.com/ I spoke to a Sleek dealer yesterday and got sit on the bikes - they seem to be PCX sized and are of good quality. I liked the Bosch motors. The type V has a 3kW electric motor. The ฿97,000 Lite has one 4.2kWh battery The ฿129,000 version has 2 batteries. I didn't see the GT version. The hand written "sub" in the margin of ฿5,000 and ฿10,000 I believe refers to the already included government subsidy. The 1.19% interest rate is very generous I -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
We have an electric car powered by my home solar system, but my gf still prefers the Honda click for trips to the local shops; food runs and family visits. I have been looking to replace it with an electric motorbike for sometime. I have previously posted about https://decogreenenergy.com/index.php/en/ Deco bikes are assembled in Thailand and have an extensive dealer network. I am still waiting for Deco to announce that their bikes are eligible for the government EV subsidy. Two bikes I am considering are: https://decogreenenergy.com/index.php/en/product-en/electric-motorcycles-en/superace https://decogreenenergy.com/index.php/en/product-en/electric-motorcycles-en/doubleace Due to the differences in voltage/amp hours I prefer to convert battery capacities to kWhs Both SuperAce and DoubleAce have 2kW electric motors The SuperAce has a 2.2kWh battery and the DoubleAce has a 3kWh battery -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
"phantom braking" has affected other cars including Tesla. The car applies the breaks when it thinks it sees an obstruction ahead to avoid an accident. Full Self Driving has a long way to go and I wouldn't pay extra for it currently. My MG has as a range of safety features like warning bongs which I have switched off, but some I really value like automatically activating the 360 camera when I use the turn signal and the blind spot warning light which is very valuable in Thailand as motorbikes can appear from anywhere. Modern EVs come with over the air updates and a lot of problems can be fixed without a recall. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
As I have previously mentioned, the Toyota bZ4X had a problem with wheel nuts coming loose and all cars had to be recalled. I have now heard that the Toyota claimed WLTP range of 470km was independently tested at 307km -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Thanks for the update. My local dealer told me that there was no stock of the old model EP, but stock availability coming out of canceled orders makes sense and probably explains differences in regional availability. The new model EP has the same battery and drive train as the previous model which is really excellent value for money at the lower price. Congratulations on bagging a couple of bargain EVs. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Toyota bZ4X is now launched in Thailand. Only the 4 wheel drive version will be sold in Thailand 0-100km 6.9 seconds The price quoted is after the Government 150,000 Baht EV discount. Launching with a black roof in Thailand is not a great choice. Launch Video in English, Japanese and Thai: -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
The MG EP 2022 is no longer available for order in Thailand or the UK (where it is known as the MG 5) It looks like we will have to wait until 2023 for the new model to become available here in Thailand The new model will have higher specs and a higher price. Here is a good video explaining the difference between the old and new model -
EV Owners … Real life experience & help thread
Bandersnatch replied to KhunLA's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Solar powers all my in province driving. I like to recharge my home batteries first then charge the car. In the middle of the day the solar system is making the most power. I would recommend a 7kW wall charger so you get as much of the peak solar into the car as quickly as possible. You don’t want any solar production curtailed as you can’t get it into the car quick enough. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
None taken. Got a lift today in a friends Toyota Corolla and I struggled to get into it - must be getting old or fat or something ???? After an electric motor, the engine seemed very rough and noisy. Won’t be going back to suck, squeeze, bang, blow. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
The ORA Qualcomm chip story is nearly a year old and happened at the height of the chip shortage crisis. GWM is not the only company to substitute components due to parts availability problems. Their mistake was not being upfront about it. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
I am currently driving the MG HS PHEV. It is roomy comfortable with lots of tech and a 6.9 sec 0-100k My next EV needs to be at least as roomy and comfortable. I like the Tesla model Y it's a very impressive piece of technology but it's very basic (minimalist) inside. I don't like the lack of a driver's display of even a heads-up display and why no apple car play? The ride is very firm and not adjustable. It's priced as a luxury car but it doesn't seem very luxurious. The BMW iX1 is beaten by the model Y on all the specs but it's brown leather seats and wood dash it feels like a luxury car. We are still waiting for the price of both these cars in Thailand - plenty of time for me to change my mind. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Source (Thai): https://www.headlightmag.com/2022-10-27-estimated-price-toyota-bz4x-thailand/ It might also be worth reading the following: https://thedriven.io/2022/10/07/toyota-resumes-sales-of-bz4x-ev-suv-after-wheels-falling-off-issue-resolved/ -
HYDROGEN cars are here ! - Hyundai
Bandersnatch replied to Social Media's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
The hydrogen fuel cell Toyota Mirai enters Thailand this November The Mirai is expected to be launched in Thailand at a price of between 2-2.3 million baht There currently aren't any Hydrogen filling station in Thailand Source (Thai): https://www.springnews.co.th/digital-tech/auto/831368 -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Here’s a Toyota Yaris parking in an EV charging bay at Robinson Buriram. I agree it’s going to be a problem here in Thailand. Currently it’s not a problem as there are far more charging stations than there are EVs wanting to charge. The vast majority of EV charging is done at home. The only way that VIP parking places are protected in Thailand is by having security standing by. The EV charging stations at Central Festival shopping center Pattaya has security that manages the queue. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
I suggest you Google "Load Shifting" and "The Duck Curve" if you want to be taken seriously when you talk about solar. My solar system powers my house, but produces excess production in the middle of the day. To avoid curtailment I charge my EV. i.e. I am charging my EV for free -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
It's interesting to look at EV sales by manufacturer for 2021. I assume this includes all plug-ins. I was surprised to see BMW in second place behind MG. A BMW dealer said to me last year that BMW was hoping to assemble the new iX1 in Thailand to gain access to the government subsidy. In Australia it will sell for ฿2,000,000 -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
I have answered this question several times already. The market for EVs in Thailand is no different to what is happening is other countries. 1) Demand for EVs is expanding every year 2) The supply of EVs is failing to keep up with demand resulting in long waiting times for new EVs 3) Resulting in high demand for used EVs and not falling prices -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Interesting. I have never signed out of my MG app. The first time I launch it in the day is does a full diagnostic check on the car including the 12v battery charge level. A low charge level would generate a warning message. captain DIY a Thai YouTuber who I follow bought one of the first ZS EVs in Thailand and he also had problems with his 12v battery initially. He still drives it today, but I haven’t heard any problems since. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Have owned an MG EV for 18 months and had no problems, so when I received a warning message on the app I was quite shocked, turned out one of my tires had low pressure! -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Tesla Model Y was the best and model 3 was third best in the survey looking forward to seeing them coming to Thailand soon. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Many times when I post online about EVs, someone will respond with a comment like. “Forget EVs, Hydrogen is the power source of the future” To which I inevitably respond “I agree with you, Hydrogen is the power source of the future, and it always will be!” Toyota doesn’t currently sell a full electric car (BEV) in Thailand but instead the hydrogen fuel cell “Toyota Mirai” enters Thailand this November. People complain about the lack of EV charging stations in Thailand (Generally people who don’t own an EV) Those same people will probably be very quiet about the fact that currently there isn’t a single Hydrogen filling station in Thailand! There are often complaints about how expensive EVs are and by comparison the Mirai is expected to be launched in Thailand at a price of 2-2.3 million baht Technically the Mirai is a hydrogen electric car, it has a fuel cell that is used to charge a battery which drives an electric motor. I for one will not be buying one as I can charge my current EV from my rooftop solar, but I cannot make Hydrogen at home. Read more content: https://www.springnews.co.th/digital-tech/auto/831368