Bandersnatch

22 hours ago, john donson said:

early adopters always pay a price to be first to show off to others...

Back in 2018 I attended the BKK motor show looking to buy an EV.

I only saw 2 for sale, the Fomm 1  - a micro car and a 40kWh Nissan Leaf for ฿2m.

If I wanted to show off I would have bought the Leaf, but it was clearly overpriced for a 40kWh EV with CHAdeMO charging.

Do you really think that the need to show off is the main reason people buy EVs? If this was true then we would all be queuing up to buy the new Ioniq 5N for ฿3.8m but you can see the reaction to the price in this discussion.

23 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

wonder how much the "N" version will cost when/if they release it here. For sure will be way more than any performance BYD. But it is very very cool.

Think I'll stick to my BYD Seal Performance even if it is 0.4 seconds slower than the N 

3 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

How do you ensure no power is sent to the car via the V2L? is that handled by your Inverter or by the switch? 

 

There are 2 different connectors. The car is powered by plugging in the wall charger.

Once the V2L is connected power can only go one way and that is out of the car into the "grid connection" on my off- grid inverters.

1 hour ago, DavisH said:

There was recent posting of a low km byd seal for sale at 1M, baht, so that's a 500K drop in less than a year. It's not advertised anymore so I guess someone snapped it up. Losing a 1/3 of value in 1 year is steep. 

If it was a Dynamic it would have been a 200k drop. 

1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

You might want to check your settings in one2one as there are 2014 Toyota Camry from dealers ranging from B495K downwards

there are 14 2014 Toyota Camry with higher prices that your picture shows

https://www.one2car.com/รถ-สำหรับ-ขาย/toyota/camry/year-2014?page_size=26&page_number=1&sort=price.desc

Similar with Honda Accord 2014 dealers ranging from B609K

There are 26 2014 dealer listed cars with prices higher than your picture snapshot

https://www.one2car.com/en/cars-for-sale/honda/accord/year-2014?page_size=26&sort=price.desc&page_number=2

You do realise that a dealer price is more than you will get when you trade it in or sell it privately?

An 8+ yr old car sold in Thailand will get you very little ICE or EV. Everyone going on about depreciation of EVs fails to look at ICE car depreciation.

EV cars are getting cheaper, that's a good thing in my mind, cheaper to buy new or used, it gets more people into EVs and destroys the barrier to entry "EVs are too expensive" 

9 minutes ago, Unamerican said:

As measured/compared how, exactly?? 

Original purchase price less residual value = depreciation.

Three comparable cars (class D saloons) at a similar price. There is clear evidence that the Accord and Camry both fall to practically zero after 10 years, so how can the cheaper BYD depreciate more?

As usual the main concern for those who don’t own an EV is depreciation. So let’s consider some evidence.

I purchased a D segment Saloon/Sedan in the same class as a Toyota Camry and a Honda Accord. My car is the top of the range BYD Seal AWD Performance so I will compare with the respective top of the range cars.

The Camry and Accord cost ฿200,000 more than the Seal 

I will ignore the fact that the Seal came with ฿230,000 worth of freebies 

So what is the dealer price for an Accord and a Camry after 10 years?

So if a BYD Seal AWD Performance is worth ฿200,000 after 10 years then the depreciation would be the same.

Interesting article:

Can Nissan Save Itself With LFP Batteries?

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/10/07/can-nissan-revive-itself-with-lfp-batteries/

You might also like:

Nissan Is In Deep Doo-Doo

The Toyota bZ3C (not to be confused with bZ4X) is a full EV powered by BYD being launched soon.

Just now, Bandersnatch said:

Thailand: Can the 'Detroit of Asia' retain its crown in the EV era?

Still hear journalists talking about the importance of Nickel and Cobalt in EV battery production not understanding that the dominant battery chemistry going forward is LFP which contains neither of these controversial metals.

"LFP has taken significant share from NMC since 2018 due to improvements in energy density at sustained lower cost. In China, LFP will become more dominant due to robust demand for mass-market EVs and established supply chains, in addition to the emergence of LFP variants with improved energy density (e.g., M3P and lithium manganese iron phosphate [LFMP])."

https://www.bain.com/insights/navigating-the-ev-battery-ecosystem

Thailand: Can the 'Detroit of Asia' retain its crown in the EV era?

Mini computers are fine for basic tasks like browsing the internet.

I used an intel NUC for a music server. Here is the video I made of the process 

Having just solar and no grid connection and having 2 EVs to charge makes me interested in Energy Monitoring and having easy and accurate access to that information.

22 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That's interesting.

I have several Shelly devices which are connected per WiFi and they allow power monitoring.

Energy Metering - Shop - Shelly

Until now I saw that they show power usage information, but I didn't actually use that data until now.

After our discussion a few weeks ago about Shelly, I purchased a Shelly 1pm mini

They really are really small. 

I will test it in one of my sockets maybe for my induction hob and if it's successful I will purchase more.

Shelly make a version for breaker boxes, in fact it's the one HA recommends but they are a bit expensive 

2 minutes ago, clokwise said:

 

FWIW, my home is Zigbee, Z-wave, HomeKit, and Matter free. 100% WiFi, with at least 40 various devices now. I know a lot of people swear by Zigbee, but the advantages it offers are minor, at least for my home. Any hardware I need is available in a WiFi version. Worst case for me - I'm quite fine with WiFi sensors that take 2 seconds to go online whenever they are triggered.

 

These technologies also all require additional hardware which I knew was just going to complicate things further down the line. Also, some of these protocols, such as Zigbee, can be vendor specific - there is constantly a lot of discussion online about which zigbee router works with which devices and which it doesn't. No thanks. My objective was to make home automation simpler, not get more technical - that's just gonna make a bigger beast to tackle when things go wrong later.

 

I had a Matter LED strip controller, so I installed a Matter software router. The controller was buggy as hell, so I dumped it and installed a much cheaper Tuya Wifi version - works perfectly. I have a HomeKit Yale lock. Had to move a HomePod speaker close enough to the door to get the lock to go online. It worked 95% of the time, but with a 2 to 3 second lag. That 5% tho....grrrr. Made a $3 ESP32 bluetooth proxy which covers the entire house and now the lock is super responsive and uptime is 100%.

What power monitoring do you do in HA?

You might have seen in the video that I have a Tuya WiFi biometric door lock in my Mechanical Room it works great.

16 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Can you please explain that part.

I used Home Assistant and until now all my devices use WiFi.

Likewise all my devices use WiFi, however my WiFi smart plugs are shown as unsupported for energy monitoring. I can still use them to schedule when they are on, but I get no power monitoring. A discussion on GitHub said that zigbee works for power monitoring and it does.

I have various wifi smart plugs that give me energy usage data in the Tuya App, but as I am transitioning to Home Assistant I am moving from WiFi to Zigbee, so I needed a Zigbee Hub.

A couple videos I have just uploaded: