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3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Oh I can. Happened to me but not to Thailand and to a pal in Thailand, but I  don't remember his local bank. 

What a nightmare, so how am i to comply with Thai Immigration requirements ?

10 hours ago, tracy3eyes said:

Are you sure that transferring through HSBC will show as foriegn because I transferred from my Nationwide and it was sent through HSBC as the intermediary bank and I got code BAHTNET which is my problem. But now I have discovered that sending from the Halifax gets you a FTT code.

HSBC is my bank and i would be transferring direct from them to SCB Thailand using Swift, i can't see HSBC using an intermediary but ya never know. I'll be doing my next transfer using HSBC on 1st Aug so will find out then, here's hoping.

If HSBC using Swift does'nt produce the FTT or in SCB's case its FRC then i'm well and truly stuffed, what a nightmare this business is becoming, HTF are we supposed to comply with Thai Immigration requirements ? 

I've just returned from Korat IO where wifey and i spoke to the Chief IO to inform her that i could'nt evidence that my transfers had come from the UK by way of TW due to the fact they were not coded when credited to my SCB account as FRC (from abroad)

I took all my SCB bank statements (all printed off by me) from Jan this year to July together with the TW PDF's (all printed off by me) she had a good look and said "don't worry" all we want to see is that you are transferring money each month into your SCB account from abroad and she said that i can see from the evidence you have supplied.

I did inform her that in future (August onwards) i will do a swift transfer from my HSBC UK account direct into my SCB account here and that will show as a foreign transaction, she was happy and once again said "don't worry". I'll have to just put up with the higher charges and bad exchange rate from SCB.

I think wifey had a good chat to her and said we've been married 13 years and living together here in Thailand and always transferred the money monthly from the UK and she did'nt want to lose her husband lol   

I've just returned from Korat IO where wifey and i spoke to the Chief IO to inform her that i could'nt evidence that my transfers had come from the UK by way of TW due to the fact they were not coded when credited to my SCB account as FRC (from abroad)

I took all my SCB bank statements (all printed off by me) from Jan this year to July together with the TW PDF's (all printed off by me) she had a good look and said "don't worry" all we want to see is that you are transferring money each month into your SCB account from abroad and she said that i can see from the evidence you have supplied.

I did inform her that in future (August onwards) i will do a swift transfer from my HSBC UK account direct into my SCB account here and that will show as a foreign transaction, she was happy and once again said "don't worry". I'll have to just put up with the higher charges and bad exchange rate from SCB.

I think wifey had a good chat to her and said we've been married 13 years and living together here in Thailand and always transferred the money monthly from the UK and she did'nt want to lose her husband lol   

I've just returned from Korat IO where wifey and i spoke to the Chief IO to inform her that i could'nt evidence that my transfers had come from the UK by way of TW due to the fact they were not coded when credited to my SCB account as FRC (from abroad)

I took all my SCB bank statements (all printed off by me) from Jan this year to July together with the TW PDF's (all printed off by me) she had a good look and said "don't worry" all we want to see is that you are transferring money each month into your SCB account from abroad and she said that i can see from the evidence you have supplied.

I did inform her that in future (August onwards) i will do a swift transfer from my HSBC UK account direct into my SCB account here and that will show as a foreign transaction, she was happy and once again said "don't worry". I'll have to just put up with the higher charges and bad exchange rate from SCB.

I think wifey had a good chat to her and said we've been married 13 years and living together here in Thailand and always transferred the money monthly from the UK and she did'nt want to lose her husband lol   

I've just returned from Korat IO where wifey and i spoke to the Chief IO to inform her that i could'nt evidence that my transfers had come from the UK by way of TW due to the fact they were not coded when credited to my SCB account as FRC (from abroad)

I took all my SCB bank statements (all printed off by me) from Jan this year to July together with the TW PDF's (all printed off by me) she had a good look and said "don't worry" all we want to see is that you are transferring money each month into your SCB account from abroad and she said that i can see from the evidence you have supplied.

I did inform her that in future (August onwards) i will do a swift transfer from my HSBC UK account direct into my SCB account here and that will show as a foreign transaction, she was happy and once again said "don't worry". I'll have to just put up with the higher charges and bad exchange rate from SCB.

I think wifey had a good chat to her and said we've been married 13 years and living together here in Thailand and always transferred the money monthly from the UK and she did'nt want to lose her husband lol   

I've just returned from Korat IO where wifey and i spoke to the Chief IO to inform her that i could'nt evidence that my transfers had come from the UK by way of TW due to the fact they were not coded when credited to my SCB account as FRC (from abroad)

I took all my SCB bank statements (all printed off by me) from Jan this year to July together with the TW PDF's (all printed off by me) she had a good look and said "don't worry" all we want to see is that you are transferring money each month into your SCB account from abroad and she said that i can see from the evidence you have supplied.

I did inform her that in future (August onwards) i will do a swift transfer from my HSBC UK account direct into my SCB account here and that will show as a foreign transaction, she was happy and once again said "don't worry". I'll have to just put up with the higher charges and bad exchange rate from SCB.

I think wifey had a good chat to her and said we've been married 13 years and living together here in Thailand and always transferred the money monthly from the UK and she did'nt want to lose her husband lol   

12 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

There are two police orders that amended the existing police orders.

There is one that was issued in December for the new income option and another one for the 800k baht in the bank option that was issued in January and went into effect on March first.

Download this one for the money in the bank option. Police Order 35/2562 Changing 327/2557 Clause 2.22 

 

Any chance you could post the download for the monthly transfer option ? thanks in anticipation.

4 minutes ago, ecoscape said:

i no longer have the 400k in my account having bought a house and a car. i rely on my pension income of 40 k per month plus. i am due to renew my extension. bangkok bank only provide 6 months statements also my monthly transfers from my pension provider in uk show up as Bahnet. I did show the bank an example of a letter which was recently posted here but the bank says these are obsolete. help!

You have joined the ever growing club Sir.

4 minutes ago, willyumcr said:

I am not sure as I live in Pattaya. Lots of agency's here do this.

Thankyou, yes i am aware of some agencies that operate in Pattaya but the problem as i see it is that you have to use your local IO to secure your visa extension, now using one from Pattaya could present me with other problems.

17 hours ago, willyumcr said:

Save yourself a lot of headaches. Use an agency. Once a year. Done. No need transfers, etc.

I agree but how would one find an agent in Korat or any other city/town other than Bangkok/Pattaya where these agents services are advertised/recommended and well used ?

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

There is nothing in the police order that they have to be on the same date every month.

It states this for extensions based upon retirement. 

 

It could be one or more transfers per month as long as they total to 65k baht a month.

I fully agree with what you say UJ but as you know Thai IO's make up the rules as they go along, what i have posted is what i was told by a Korat IO when they did my retirement extension in January.

If i was to be pedantic which i'm not the police order says money transfer not money transfer(s) lol

9 minutes ago, mosan said:

Just between me and you, I don't think Immigrations will care to see your TW PDP statements. What they really want is your bank book and a printed statement from your local Thai bank detailing your transactions on the last 12 months or whatever period is covered since your last extension.  Go to your bank and request a printed statement for the last 3 to 6 months and see what it shows for transactions--you can do this immediately.  As some individuals have reported that their bank book doesn't show international transfers, but their printed bank statements do in fact show the transfers as originating from their home country.  

The suggestion to open a Bangkok Bank account is still a sound one.

I was only going to take my TW PDF statements to show i have proof of the FTT if they request it.

I fully intend to get a statement letter from SCB showing the credit transactions throughout the year coupled with my updated bank book (i have'nt had it updated for something like 5/6 years) when i do my next extension

Thanks for the suggestion to obtain a 3/6 month statement now but i fail to see how it can be any different to what i see on my online statements which state X1 (SCB) domestic transfer as the transfer is coming from TMB but ya never know....

I really don't want to open a BB account unless i really have to.

8 minutes ago, mosan said:

I'd suggest you have your multiple sources deposit into your home bank and then bring your 40K or 65K into Thailand with one transfer a month at approximately the same time...

Yes that is what i do.

7 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And if only 12 payments don't add up to 40,000 or 65,000 baht a month but payments from more than one pension do. What then?

 

AFAIK what is required is a total of more than 40 or 65,000 per month.

Bloody good question, i've no doubt what you say is correct as it makes sense but that was what i was told by the Korat IO that did my retirement extension in January.

I've no doubt that common sense will prevail at the end of the day and that IO's up and down the country will become more familiar as time goes on, well i can always wish lol

3 minutes ago, mosan said:

To be clear, you don't "need" change anything.  I was just saying that of all the stories posted, evidence reveals that those with a Bangkok Bank account as the destination for receipt of their funds, they have had the most success.  Those with accounts at other banks have mostly reported receiving their deposits showing as "domestic transfers" because in fact they are all domestic transfers.  It's just that Bangkok Bank is most likely to get the coding right.  And, by the way, ACH is an internal mechanism used by US financial institutions to transfer funds.  TransferWise has a banking facility in the US (and other countries) that receive and then process said funds.  

Thanks for that. I'm a UK national so ACH does'nt apply to me. Well if i don't change anything all my transfers are showing "domestic" as they are coming from TMB into my SCB account and if i'm confronted by an IO who insists they are shown as FTT i'm stuffed, thats why i'm gonna take me TW PDP statements which show its a foreign transaction.

17 hours ago, billd766 said:

Immigration are looking for a minimum of 40,000 or 65,000 baht per month and not just 12 payments into the account.

Thats not what i was told at Korat Immigration, 12 monthly payments into your account and they have to be on or around the same date each month give or take a few days. Now i appreciate Thai IO's all have different enterpretations of the rules, some even make their own up lol

I also transfer a couple of times per month when i run outta dosh but i always do a minimum 65k per month on or about the same date.

19 hours ago, mosan said:

Actually, it doesn't matter how you send funds from your home bank to TransferWise.  I'm guessing you choose ACH in order to "pull" funds from your account into TransferWise's account.  From there they notify their Thailand account which deposits money into your Thai bank account. The sole reason for using a Bangkok Bank account is because the deposits always (at least in my case) shows up as a FTT (Foreign Telex Transfer) coded transaction.  Bottom line is use Bangkok Bank the "FINAL DESTINATION" for your transfers. Otherwise, the transfers will likely be coded as a "domestic" transfer into your SCB account as Bangkok Bank, or you personally will have to do a "domestic" transfer to get the money in to your other bank.

 

Let me know if you do not understand what I'm telling you?     

Thankyou for your post, so in essence you have to have your TW transfer go into a Bangkok bank account not SCB as in my case, so i would need to open a BB account and change my TW transfers to BB in the future.

What is ACH ?

7 minutes ago, Rama said:

Have been doing the transferwise transfer from US since early February to bkk bank. Last one was early June. No problem, always shows a FTT. When you setup your transferwise transfer, it gives you 2 options, whether to do it as a SWIFT transfer or not. I choose SWIFT. Are you sure your transferwise transfer is setup correctly? They usually charge a few dollars more for the SWIFT.

I was'nt aware there are two setup options. I assumed from posts that the problem was if your transfer did'nt go through Bangkok bank to your receiving bank (SCB) it would'nt show up as FTT but X1.   

2 minutes ago, oxmermaid said:

Without wanting to go over ground already covered in other threads, would you trust a front of office Immigration Officer to spend time ploughing through TW and other bumph when all they want is 12 international transfers one every month? You are right in collating the data but the IO has the power to reject if they so choose. 

Well i intend getting the bank letter confirming that a minimum of 65K has been transferred into my SCB account on or about the same date each month, the TW PDP (12) just confirms that the dosh has come from the UK. When i did my last retirement extension in January the Korat IO stated that next year i would have to provide bank confirmation of the transfer, no mention of proving that the transfer came from abroad, perhaps next January i'll just make sure i see the same IO.   

Guys is there any reason why you cannot use the Transferwise PDP as proof that your transfer came from abroad, all the figures correspond and the dates will only be a day adrift or 3 at the most. I've just looked at one of mine and it states TMB as the transferree into my SCB account and it shows the transfer as pounds sterling.