NoshowJones

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Oh Dear????? again.

Bashing and founded (personal)opinions are not the same. Shades of grey ! Good that you have trustworthy neighbours.

As people, I find the Thais mostly honest, decent, trustworthy people, I have come across it many times, they are mostly very non confrontational. for those who don't agree with me, look at some of the people in your own country. The downsides are the low mentality of most of the people, ie most people who drive cars, ride motorbikes, work in shops, banks etc. Most Thai men who always need back up, and cannot face you one to one.

When builders built an extension on to my house, I gave the man in charge the money he first quoted me, he handed me back 2000 Baht saying he had miscalculated. I asked the local Honda dealer to fit a new engine to my motorbike, quote 4000 Baht, they bought the bike back a few hours later, and said it did not need a new engine, and done a repair instead, cost 850 Baht.

Just a couple of examples of honesty I have come across here in Thailand.

I don't disagree with your general comments but I am amazed at the builder part although you do not specify how much the overall bill was? I doubt you would find many builders in any country who would refund any money if you agreed a price with them to do a specific job unless you knew them well and/or there was an expectation that the bill could come in less than estimated.

i was amazed too.

Bashing and founded (personal)opinions are not the same. Shades of grey ! Good that you have trustworthy neighbours.

As people, I find the Thais mostly honest, decent, trustworthy people, I have come across it many times, they are mostly very non confrontational. for those who don't agree with me, look at some of the people in your own country. The downsides are the low mentality of most of the people, ie most people who drive cars, ride motorbikes, work in shops, banks etc. Most Thai men who always need back up, and cannot face you one to one.

When builders built an extension on to my house, I gave the man in charge the money he first quoted me, he handed me back 2000 Baht saying he had miscalculated. I asked the local Honda dealer to fit a new engine to my motorbike, quote 4000 Baht, they bought the bike back a few hours later, and said it did not need a new engine, and done a repair instead, cost 850 Baht.

Just a couple of examples of honesty I have come across here in Thailand.

I don't disagree with your general comments but I am amazed at the builder part although you do not specify how much the overall bill was? I doubt you would find many builders in any country who would refund any money if you agreed a price with them to do a specific job unless you knew them well and/or there was an expectation that the bill could come in less than estimated.

This was about 18months ago and the bill was about 55000 Baht. When I paid him, he handed me back 2000Baht, I asked the wife why he returned the 2000 Baht, and the wife said it was something to do with the tiles on the floor.

Couldn't you simply drive through with your own car? Or is that a bad idea?

Good question.

Bashing and founded (personal)opinions are not the same. Shades of grey ! Good that you have trustworthy neighbours.

As people, I find the Thais mostly honest, decent, trustworthy people, I have come across it many times, they are mostly very non confrontational. for those who don't agree with me, look at some of the people in your own country. The downsides are the low mentality of most of the people, ie most people who drive cars, ride motorbikes, work in shops, banks etc. Most Thai men who always need back up, and cannot face you one to one.

When builders built an extension on to my house, I gave the man in charge the money he first quoted me, he handed me back 2000 Baht saying he had miscalculated. I asked the local Honda dealer to fit a new engine to my motorbike, quote 4000 Baht, they bought the bike back a few hours later, and said it did not need a new engine, and done a repair instead, cost 850 Baht.

Just a couple of examples of honesty I have come across here in Thailand.

Nice topic!

I only have a couple of terrestrial friends involved with Thailand. They ask me for advice, which in turn comes from this forum mainly. Its a great place for so many reasons and lots of great characters. Hopefully 1 day I get to meet some of them.

I can recommend that Krisb, I have been meeting one guy for the last two years, and am on the verge of meeting another two. If anyone can accept my opinions even if they do not agree with them, they will be my friend for life.

Something like neversure - I am 6'6" 225Lbs and never feel too bad anywhere, but over the last couple of years in Bangkok I have several friends suffered from motorbike drive-by handbag snatchers.

Oh - I forgot to say - my friends are all Thai

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On the note of street-fighting - farang street-fighters REALLY need to be deported ON THE NEXT PLANE !!!!!!

Yes, if they are troublemakers, but don't condemn anyone if it's self defence.

Yep, that's why we learn it. Not for trouble but to take care of us and ours.

No matter what the provocation, a violent response is ALWAYS wrong.

If a person I do not know deliberately provokes me in any way where violence is concerned, I will lift the nearest thing I can put them down with, and then I will make sure they do not get back up. But here in Thailand I will just walk away.

I can back my claims up with statistics besides those everyone knows that alcohol fuels agression like no other drug on this planet. So your chances of getting attacked in places like that are a lot higher. I dare to bet my life on it.

Be careful, I doubt you can provide any reliable statistics on the incidence of violence around Thai bars.

The argument that alcohol 'fuels violence' is not yet proven.

Alcohol might remove the inhibitions of violent people but there is no evidence that alcohol turns non violent people into violent people.

I beg to differ Guesthouse, I have known a few guys back in Scotland who were very mild mannered people who would not say boo to a goose, but when they started drinking, they wanted to take on everybody.

Something like neversure - I am 6'6" 225Lbs and never feel too bad anywhere, but over the last couple of years in Bangkok I have several friends suffered from motorbike drive-by handbag snatchers.

Oh - I forgot to say - my friends are all Thai

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On the note of street-fighting - farang street-fighters REALLY need to be deported ON THE NEXT PLANE !!!!!!

Yes, if they are troublemakers, but don't condemn anyone if it's self defence.

The Wife regularly mugs me......does that count? and YES its is getting worse

Apart from bad driving, there have only been two occasions when I would have retaliated violently if the same thing had happened to me in Scotland. If you never get drunk and mind your own business, I believe you will be 99.9% safe in Thailand.

I agree, but WE never know who is sitting near bye. Bit like roulette. Could be wrong place, wrong time.

I am a very laid back old guy BUT I do know that when I have had a few there is a red mist appears in me, I am still no problem, but IF someone wants to make a problem or is making a problem near bye I have a problem trying to control it. If I was sober I would walk away. Being honest here.

Bit like singing, if I am sober, no way, if had a few .......................

Yes Transam, that's why I always say, you will be 99.9 per cent safe instead of 100. Where red mists are concerned I'm the same, I have problems with controlling it, but on the two occasions someone upset me I just walked away, which I would never do back in Scotland.

Oh, and Blether, no I've never been assaulted in Thailand but then I'm 6' 8', 270 pounds. I'm a former Navy Seal and former NFL lineman.

Your height and weight would not matter in Thailand, it just means that you would need to take on 12 of them instead of six.

The Wife regularly mugs me......does that count? and YES its is getting worse

Apart from bad driving, there have only been two occasions when I would have retaliated violently if the same thing had happened to me in Scotland. If you never get drunk and mind your own business, I believe you will be 99.9% safe in Thailand.

A lot of the guard rails on the balconies I have seen in Thailand are quite low. They are designed for Thai's and that is fair enough as they are short and this is Thailand. It would be quite easy for the average sized farang who is stumbling around drunk to topple over one of these rails.

Is it an offence in Thailand to serve a person who is intoxicated or to have an intoxicated person on licenced premises?

It would not matter if it was an offence or not, the offences that seem to be taken seriously mostly here in Thailand, are to do with immigration and drugs.

Usa invading Thailand... And I will be out...

So so UK

Another one? Just how bad is this track?

Stop bashing Thailand.

95 per cent of the track is perfectly safe. It's just the other 5 per cent that's likely to throw the train onto it's side at any time.

Five per cent is still too much if it is risking peoples lives.

What storage are you lacking? I have a tailbox on the back, and a basket on the front, can put a basket on the passenger seat tied down. For some reason Thai people will not have a tailbox on their bike. My wife and her brothers refuse to ride my bike because of the tailbox. Has anyone ever seen a Thai ride a bike with a tailbox on it?

Trying not to be too confrontational, go back and face the music you coward ! You got into the mess, you should sort it out. Thailand could do without people like that...

There are no bigger cowards than the banks they way they have robbed and keep robbing the ordinary people, while the directors keep filling their pockets, and boosting their pension funds at our expense. Good luck to the OPs friend , and I hope he gets away with it.

I think you will it is against forum rules to post something supporting an illegal activity.

Yes, and so it should be if it is anything serious, but if someone steals from you and you steal back from them, then it is not serious.

If you are "supporting" him without underpants in public you may well be arrested !

Good one mate.

" If you can get money of any banks like the OPs friend is doing, then good luck to him"

Great idea !

Steal money then exile oneself !

End up begging from a friend ?

Maybe a very poor idea !

When his guy returns (as he will) to the UK his days of easy credit will for sure be over !

The guy might have no intention of returning to the UK, and if he has any sense, then he won't.

Trying not to be too confrontational, go back and face the music you coward ! You got into the mess, you should sort it out. Thailand could do without people like that...

There are no bigger cowards than the banks they way they have robbed and keep robbing the ordinary people, while the directors keep filling their pockets, and boosting their pension funds at our expense. Good luck to the OPs friend , and I hope he gets away with it.

I think you will it is against forum rules to post something supporting an illegal activity.

If anybody or company does anything against me, and someone does something against them, then I will support it. There are lots of TV posters posted things supporting an "illegal" act of some sort. If you do not wear underpants here in Thailand and I support you, would that be against forum rules? If anyone drives a car with red plates outside his province, will any Thai poster not support it?

Trying not to be too confrontational, go back and face the music you coward ! You got into the mess, you should sort it out. Thailand could do without people like that...

There are no bigger cowards than the banks they way they have robbed and keep robbing the ordinary people, while the directors keep filling their pockets, and boosting their pension funds at our expense. Good luck to the OPs friend , and I hope he gets away with it.

I find it peculiar how so many in this forum appear to support this guy not making any attempt to pay his dues and seem to emphasize with his plight. And these are the very same people who blame banks for the world's woes. Doesn't it cross your mind that people who don't pay debts are part of the problem? I have no tolerance for people who make no attempt to pay debts they owe either personal or corporate. Greed is today's greatest failing in our development as a species.

No, I agree with most of the posters on this thread. The banks are mostly responsible for the state the UK (I can only speak for the UK) is in today. They have been stealing money of us ordinary people for years, and awarding millions of pounds to themselves in pensions etc. If you can get money of any banks like the OPs friend is doing, then good luck to him.

If you have no assets in the UK, but are getting regular money from somewhere. ie renting out property, getting your private or state pension paid into your UK bank, are staying permanently in Thailand, and owe 8000 GBP on your UK credit card, and stop making payments. I believe your credit card company can get a court order if they know your address in Thailand, and know which UK bank account you have. Depending how much money you have in your UK bank account, can arrest it, can arrest some of the money from your house renting agreement and any pension you have.

$300 night hotel and moans about 500 Baht taxi fare

I have got to say it is really ridiculous for a hotel charging $300 per night and then charging you for the internet. The internet is almost 100% profit for hotels, and it is just pure greed for any hotel to charge for it.

Are you a troll ?

Anyone who looks for top end accommodation etc and moans about 1000bht, that's 20 English quid, for dinner for 2 is having a laugh.

Do you know how much it costs to get in the USA Disney land or world. Did you not remember in the USA at a restaurant they add on 15% service charge whether you like it or not.

My point was Thailand is not cheap. Everyone always gives this impression it is and it's simply not.

I'm not complaining at a $30 meal for 2, I understand that might be the going rate these days... I was simply pointing out that Thailand is not cheap, that's all

If you take everything into consideration, TV licence, council tax, car tax, this tax and that tax, fares for travelling, cost of food, I could go on and on. Thailand is much cheaper than the UK, I am not qualified to talk about what's cheap and what is not in other Western countries.