kawapower

ABS is good I just don't think it is a must have thing!!

Fair enough. I think we can both agree on that.

I apologize if I was insulting.

No mate you was not insulting, a good discussion!!

caltex benzine 95

Have never tried the caltex one. I speak no thai how is the benzine one distinguished??

Went into Caltex this morning looking for benzine 95 they not do. (Katu Caltex)

Can anyone give me the locations of available 95 benzine on Phuket?

This is the non ABS beast, my mate says it looks like a transformer and stealth fighter, it is an amazing bike!!! but very thirsty!!

Not up on the technicals, it would seem ABS is very clever!!

I totally agree with this comment you made regarding ABS.

Lets leave it at that, enjoy your bike with or without ABS.

Oh and come on Lewis Hamilton!!!!!

Anytime you feel like going out for a good drive give me a pm, and lets see if I stay under 30 kph lol

Lets make it clear that owning a big powerful bike does not mean you have to drive it to the limit, I prefer a big powerful bike for it's looks, the sound etc driving very very fast here is dangerous and not enjoyable especially on a naked bike.

You consider ABS a must have thing, horses for courses, no one is right or wrong. happy days

A good discussion lets hope it does not descend into insults!!

Basically I think ABS is a good thing to have on any bike, unfortunately my Z1000 came without it(would I have taken up the option of ABS if it was available, yes of course I would have as it is a braking aid, no I am not a boring driver just very very careful and always drive well ahead of myself, this has kept me safe for over 40 yrs, I have seen many videos regarding ABS and yes it is a great thing to have, for me it is either on the bike I want to buy or it's not, I have had my Suzuki skydrive125cc for 3 yrs I drive it up to 80kph sometimes, I have never once had to slam my brakes on obviously it has no ABS, I can honestly say I have never done an emergency stop on any bike I have owned so have never used ABS. out this morning 130kms covered top speed 131kph, back safely!! this is not a great speed for a bike that can do 260kph, I am not a fast driver and would rather drive between 80kph and 100kph it's more enjoyable,less tiring and safer!!

I have opinions which are right or wrong, I feel that driving a bike without ABS is not a problem depending on your driving style.

ABS is good I just don't think it is a must have thing!!

Why do you value ABS, is your driving so bad you need to depend on ABS? if you drive too fast in the dry or wet and too close without looking ahead then you need ABS

That is one of the most outrageously ridiculous statements I have ever read, but perhaps my sarcasm detector is not tuned correctly. So you have never had another driver/rider do something totally stupid and unexpected causing you to take defensive actions? I certainly have a number of times. Had once a Thai swing across 2 lanes, no signal, no warning, put me right into some sand covered asphalt along the shoulder. ABS kept the rubber side down I have no doubt of it. Another time I had a cement truck u-turn in front of me in the rain. Again, ABS to the rescue. It is not my bad driving that caused them to do this. My friend had a similar experience on his BMW S1000RR.

There are only two kinds of people that will say they will never benefit from ABS on a motorcycle. Those that have never had to panic brake and those that don't ride motorcycles. If you have never had to panic brake, then you are the first rider I have ever met that has not had to do so.

ABS will not save you if a car etc pulls out in front of you at the last minute,

It certainly may depending on the circumstances, and certainly has many times. That is the whole point of it. True, the benefit of ABS decreases exponentially as your lateral coefficient of friction approaches 0, unlike in a car. But unless it is at ~0, ABS can still help in a turn by keeping the wheels turning.

Keep finding things to say, so the Cement truck that did a u turn in front of you in the rain, how fast were you going and how far from the truck were you? obviously you were going fast enough to activate ABS which in my opinion is far to fast!!!

Why do you value ABS, is your driving so bad you need to depend on ABS? if you drive too fast in the dry or wet and too close without looking ahead then you need ABS

That is one of the most outrageously ridiculous statements I have ever read, but perhaps my sarcasm detector is not tuned correctly. So you have never had another driver/rider do something totally stupid and unexpected causing you to take defensive actions? I certainly have a number of times. Had once a Thai swing across 2 lanes, no signal, no warning, put me right into some sand covered asphalt along the shoulder. ABS kept the rubber side down I have no doubt of it. Another time I had a cement truck u-turn in front of me in the rain. Again, ABS to the rescue. It is not my bad driving that caused them to do this. My friend had a similar experience on his BMW S1000RR.

There are only two kinds of people that will say they will never benefit from ABS on a motorcycle. Those that have never had to panic brake and those that don't ride motorcycles. If you have never had to panic brake, then you are the first rider I have ever met that has not had to do so.

ABS will not save you if a car etc pulls out in front of you at the last minute,

It certainly may depending on the circumstances, and certainly has many times. That is the whole point of it. True, the benefit of ABS decreases exponentially as your lateral coefficient of friction approaches 0, unlike in a car. But unless it is at ~0, ABS can still help in a turn by keeping the wheels turning.

Sorry forgot to mention yes I have had to panic brake but never on a motorbike!! I never drive big bikes in the wet!! I never drive so fast as to get myself into a situation where I might have to slam brakes on!! I drive far enough back from the car etc in front so as not to have to slam brakes on!! if I should ever have to slam brakes on it will be at a speed where ABS will have no effect!!

I do agree that ABS is a good aid and might make many people feel safer!!

I bought the 795. Without ABS.

I wouldn't have paid ten Baht extra for the ABS version. I am not going to elaborate on that statement because I don't want to get caught in the crossfire. I would rather spend my time and energy enjoying my new bike than arguing the case.

795 vs 796?

Single sided swing arm? If it had technical merit you would see it commonly on race bikes other than endurance. If you like the way it looks buy it. As I did with my NC30 VFR400.

Wider rear rim and better tyres? OK. You have got me there. I would like the 795 to have tyres with more grip and a wider rear rim but I am not going to pay an extra 250K to get it.

I will swap to tyres with more grip when the stock tyres wear out.

Yep agree with the ABS comment. and yes I am sure it has saved many people but I am also sure it has caused many accidents due to inexperience of using ABS!!

Why do you value ABS, is your driving so bad you need to depend on ABS? if you drive too fast in the dry or wet and too close without looking ahead then you need ABS

That is one of the most outrageously ridiculous statements I have ever read, but perhaps my sarcasm detector is not tuned correctly. So you have never had another driver/rider do something totally stupid and unexpected causing you to take defensive actions? I certainly have a number of times. Had once a Thai swing across 2 lanes, no signal, no warning, put me right into some sand covered asphalt along the shoulder. ABS kept the rubber side down I have no doubt of it. Another time I had a cement truck u-turn in front of me in the rain. Again, ABS to the rescue. It is not my bad driving that caused them to do this. My friend had a similar experience on his BMW S1000RR.

There are only two kinds of people that will say they will never benefit from ABS on a motorcycle. Those that have never had to panic brake and those that don't ride motorcycles. If you have never had to panic brake, then you are the first rider I have ever met that has not had to do so.

ABS will not save you if a car etc pulls out in front of you at the last minute,

It certainly may depending on the circumstances, and certainly has many times. That is the whole point of it. True, the benefit of ABS decreases exponentially as your lateral coefficient of friction approaches 0, unlike in a car. But unless it is at ~0, ABS can still help in a turn by keeping the wheels turning.

You sound like the previous poster katabeachbum who mate the statement, I slam my brakes on many times a day so I would never drive a bike without ABS, he will not be slamming his brakes on for a very long time now of course, I certainly would not pay 50,000bht extra just to have ABS when I would rather rely on my skill as a driver, 40 yrs plus driving without an accident and mostly without ABS speaks for itself don't you think!!! and yes I like to drive fast sometimes but only when the road is clear!!

ABS is a braking aid which if you take it for granted will get you into trouble!! my opinion.

And no ABS will not save you if a car/lorry/mini van etc pulls out on you at the last minute!!

Anyway some people swear by ABS other people swear it is just a waste of money!!!

He said he rarely needs a screw

Classic!!! lol

Well I bought the 796. Literally. After a 20 minute test ride I signed on the dotted line. I am expecting delivery in June.

Overall I think it is a great package at what, by Thai standards, is a very reasonable price.

I have owned a couple of Ducatis before so I was unphased by things such as the hopeless mirrors.

The salesman was trying to sell me a set of accessory mirrors at, I think he said, THB 14,000! I don't think so mate.

The bars are not quite right for me but I need more kms to work out what to change. I am relatively small at 5'8" and 60 kgs. My first impression was that the bars are two wide for me rather than too low.

I was getting some wheelspin in second gear at less than full throttle. Could have been something on the road surface but I will most likely change to Pirelli Rosso tyres, as used on the 796, when the originals are worn out. They should give more traction.

Perhaps unsurprisingly my 2009 CBR150R will shortly be posted in the classifieds.

In the Jungle, I am trying to decide on the 795, 796 or just get a ER6N.

I'm sure you looked at the 795. Was it just the ABS that tipped the balance. Or was is the single swing arm and the wheels that helped?

At 658k baht, the 796 just feels overpriced for the few upgrades over the 795...but I really value ABS.

What were your thoughts?

Why do you value ABS, is your driving so bad you need to depend on ABS? if you drive too fast in the dry or wet and too close without looking ahead then you need ABS, ABS will not save you if a car etc pulls out in front of you at the last minute, it will not save you if you corner to fast and lose control!! get over ABS it is an expensive option on most bikes, 40 yrs of driving bikes and cars and I have never needed ABS, yes I drive fast when I can but always drive within my limits!!

Well I bought the 796. Literally. After a 20 minute test ride I signed on the dotted line. I am expecting delivery in June.

Overall I think it is a great package at what, by Thai standards, is a very reasonable price.

I have owned a couple of Ducatis before so I was unphased by things such as the hopeless mirrors.

The salesman was trying to sell me a set of accessory mirrors at, I think he said, THB 14,000! I don't think so mate.

The bars are not quite right for me but I need more kms to work out what to change. I am relatively small at 5'8" and 60 kgs. My first impression was that the bars are two wide for me rather than too low.

I was getting some wheelspin in second gear at less than full throttle. Could have been something on the road surface but I will most likely change to Pirelli Rosso tyres, as used on the 796, when the originals are worn out. They should give more traction.

Perhaps unsurprisingly my 2009 CBR150R will shortly be posted in the classifieds.

In the Jungle, I am trying to decide on the 795, 796 or just get a ER6N.

I'm sure you looked at the 795. Was it just the ABS that tipped the balance. Or was is the single swing arm and the wheels that helped?

At 658k baht, the 796 just feels overpriced for the few upgrades over the 795...but I really value ABS.

What were your thoughts?

long before i would pay 658k for that 795 i would go and get the z1000 for 590k

if i needed abs the er6n cant be beaten for 250k although its not as exciting as a z1000

or a 795

Get the Z1000 it blows away the Ducati, Z1000 comfortable, Ducati so uncomfortable!!

ABS you only need it if you think you will need it!! never have I needed ABS on any big bike I have owned!!

Love the Diesel version... 796 obviously but the color scheme is... nice!

Motor cycle world in Phuket town around the corner from Robinsons.

Ask for Antoine

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<deleted> me....you worn those out quick!!!!....burn outs was it 5555

Not for me, mate wants a bigger set on his Kwaka 250R Ninja

This might have been covered already but can not find any thread, where in Phuket do you replace big bike tires?

I'm waiting for a lottery win, see you there!!

I've been looking at this bike for a few months now and it looks simply amazing. Unfortunately I'll probably never own one. You guys are so lucky.

Yes it is amazing and I do feel very lucky to be the owner of one, my mate said yesterday it looks like a transformer.

The screen is a good idea. At first I sort of felt good about the wind in your hair on your chest, but yesterday I took it up to 180-200km/h a good few times and it was a bit windy to say the least !

The mirrors were a really good addition - the standard ones just seemed to show my arms, but the bar end ones are just right - they stick out past the end of the bars, but not too much.

Where did you (@kawapower) get the puig gear indicator from ? (it should have been so easy for Kawasaki to include one in the display!!)

I've seen the PZ racing one in Thai shops for THB4,700 and the Healtech GIPro for ~THB5,000 from the UK.

as for the parts I bought:

1. ASV Shorty levers (black) from Motorcycle Road & Race in the UK @ GBP 163.94 for the set (~THB 8100)

2. X-Blaster LED tail light from Custom LED in the US @ US$129.99 , an ELFR-1 relay @ US$19.98 and a Blaster-X control switch @ US$ 4.99, P&P to Thailand is US$ 34.99. (turns out I didn't need the relay or switch)

3. CRG Arrow bar-end mirrors & Rhinomoto Bar-end weights/mirror mounts from Rhinomoto @ US$279.89 for the set. I'm not sure what the P&P is as there was a problem with their website, but I have emailed them and should now within a day or so.

4. The fork sliders were GBP30 and the rear GBP60 and bought from a bike shop thru Ebay (can't find the emails). Try AP Shop for the R&G stuff as I saw some there last week, but didn't notice the price)

The gear indicator is the PZ racing one,I got through Teera motorcycles here in Phuket they are also in Bangkok, it's Imported from Italy hence the price tag, it is very good. my radiator cover is great looking also through Teera.

I am considering this tail tidy with the stock indicators.

Here is mine - 12days old and 1150kms already !

List of mods:

1. GRG bar end mirrors with Rhinomoto barends

2. R&G Fork Sliders

3. R&G rear spools/sliders

4. Custom LED integrated Tail light

5. ASV Levers

6. DMV Engine covers/sliders (bought and fitted by AP Shop - very good shop!)

7. SW Motech blaze panniers (for touring) (bought and fitted by Panda Rider - very good shop!)

I think I'll soon be getting a gear indicator and a windshield.

i dont know how people can ride these things flat out without some kind of windscreen

i thought the er6n was a bit uncomfortable flat out never mind one of these things

I will never ride mine flat out, I doubt I will ever go over 150kph

Here is mine - 12days old and 1150kms already !

List of mods:

1. GRG bar end mirrors with Rhinomoto barends

2. R&G Fork Sliders

3. R&G rear spools/sliders

4. Custom LED integrated Tail light

5. ASV Levers

6. DMV Engine covers/sliders (bought and fitted by AP Shop - very good shop!)

7. SW Motech blaze panniers (for touring) (bought and fitted by Panda Rider - very good shop!)

I think I'll soon be getting a gear indicator and a windshield.

Looks good, the gear indicator is a must, I have the Puig geartronic solo, it was 7500bht apparently the best one out there,

Can you give me a contact web address of where you got the sliders etc from..

Have you nothing to say about it other than post a picture??

I have had mine for 2 days now, it's awesome but it is an alcoholic regarding fuel!!!

My 3 mods so far are the geartronic solo gear indicator, gold and silver radiator cover(pics attached) also crash pads from Puig, very expensive but I dropped the bike yesterday whilst trying to turn round almost at a standstill, no damage at all!!! won't be making that mistake again!!!

No, (unfortunately) I don't own one but would obviously love too.

Glad to hear your 'drop' was just minor.

Any more future mods planned?

Just a few Monster Energy stickers, I love logo things!!

so wht was your ride before the Z1000, I remember riding to Phuket a couple of years ago for a ghost riders event Goran was around at the time but I think he stepped back a little from the biking scene, met a few really nice guys at the time

My last big big bike was some years ago, it was the Honda Super Blackbird, just before that the Honda Fireblade, Z1000 blows them away!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4teLroJzuYo&feature=related

very nice

That is fast, I have also seen a you-tube Z1000 doing 250kph way to fast for me!!! I am happy driving slower listening to the sound of the engine, my mate says it looks like a stealth fighter from the back, I agree it looks <deleted> mean, this bike is just <deleted> awesome, forget the Ducati Monster and spend the extra money on a truly superbike!!!

i am going to bite the bullet and order one of these in kawaski bkkk ,how long does it take from ordering until it can be collected ?

dealer say 1 month but mine came sooner, you won't regret getting one of these monsters it is awesome!!