kawapower

The constant moaners enjoy it, whatever makes you happy!! constant moaning can become very boring!!

<snip> it's human nature to complain or to have a moan!!!

At last... the actual true reason to the OP's question.

While I agree it is human nature, and a lot of the moaning seems to be very much at the surface, this really does not answer the OP's question: why do some people moan here and others don't. Especially since with some of the moaners the moaning about Phuket seems to be really rooted in their veins.

Everyone moans or complains without exception, everyone has moaned at some point in there lives, to say you haven't is just not true. my opinion!!

My answer to the op's question is: when you come from a different country to live here there will be vast differences to where you come from, so obviously there will be complaints and moans from time to time, I believe every ex-pat has complained or moaned at some point, some more than others and some seem to enjoy it!!

^ You talk about being retired and what businesses you are operating in the same post!!

I think you mean that you are in a financial position to retire if you so desired.

Back to the topic slightly. I must say that I find it even stranger when very wealthy people moan. I know the old adage that you can't buy happiness but when you are wealthy you are in a far better position to change things you don't like about your life.

I mention it because someone gave not being financially secure as a reason for moaning, and you are quite obviously financially secure yet one of the forums better known moaners shall we say or pointers out of things that could be better as you would call it.

I myself have been extremely skint on Phuket in the past yet still very happy. So finances although I believe will pay a huge roll over all, obviously isn't a cut and dry reason for moaning.

My search for the truth continues

I don't think it is strange that wealthy people moan, they moan about different things, oh dam my salmon is not cooked!! or my Porsche has a flat tire!! bloody hell the interest this month is only 200,000bht!! I moan occasionally about the traffic, about the weather, about my interest only being 2,000 bht for the year lol it's human nature to complain or to have a moan!!!

A couple hundred posts in a year isnt that many.. Only just over half as many as you have made.. Plus some of us can think and type fast..

As to the metals.. My post history back it up if you dig.. on here and elsewhere.. I put life savings into gold at mid 300s.. Had a chunk of silver from 6.80 ish but rigged and bet the farm on silver at 12:05 if memory serves. Now we are in retail and storage and even tho we are a new company we rank very highly on some competitive google search terms and as I say have managed to do a mil gbp a month turnover a couple of months last year.. The venture capital on that looks like a safe bet now but its still a long long way from where I want it to be. Selling PM's at retail is a very low margin business so you want the volume.

Of course if its such a no brainer that gold always gains in value I expect we will continue to get more customers as the debt crisis is a long long way from being over.

Anyway, must have been doing something right to 'retire' at 28 and be living in the million dollar hilltop villas hey ??

I always find it very strange when people come on here and elsewhere boasting about how much they have got, a previous poster did this and now he has nothing!!! is it one up manship? what you have should be private, I am not interested and I think others are not interested also.

People moan because they can,that is how they are made, I have moans now and again it's no different from my home country, no where is perfect!!

Look what you have done, GOM.

This thread has already become an example of what you described.

What did he describe?

You're being unsavory.

Not me Sir!! bored now enjoy the rest of your day.

Look what you have done, GOM.

This thread has already become an example of what you described.

What did he describe?

It is something I believe, I do not mean becoming upset and displaying violence, if your feelings are hurt for whatever reason and you outwardly show you are upset it displays character. my opinion of course!!

You mean just like all children do?

All children do what? sorry do you mean all children get upset? so adults never get upset is that what you are saying?

No....all children when their feelings are hurt, outwardly show it.

Guess they must have character, eh?

Correct, clever lad!!

But of course you will be aware that not all children will outwardly show it, some let it eat away at them which can turn to violence!! same for adults so it is better to let it out.

Havent got a clue what I am talking about of course(it's all my opinion, but it's been interesting don't you think!!

You have a choice, and if you are lucky enough to make more good decisions than bad then good for you, enjoy the success you have created. It is not about money, chattels, token girls, fill your life with rewarding relationships, pastimes, employment and continual personal development. Ignore the content you disagree with and contribute with positivity and humour.

We chose to live here and are very lucky if the cards are in our favour - for many of us it is down to the choices we have made and our fortunate social position - apart from the Aussie of course - thieving lot bunch of scoundrels

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The only way to tell the difference between the Aussie male and female - the women can spit further.

Gripe away it is all relative and for the moment - you can choose you friends, acquaintances but not your family.

If a good looking, hard working woman chooses you for what you are and what you have accomplished see obviously doesn't know the real you. Hahah

Hang in there, your fate is already decided and there is bugger all you can do about it.

lol not sure about the Australian reference but I can see it is posted in good humor.

Read the forum and we form a opinion without knowing the poster so if you dont like what he posts just ignore it it's just like being in the bar you can talk with your friends but you can hear other conversation's negitive and positive about all sorts of topics and if you dont like what someone is saying just switch off and enjoy yourself.

Just my opinion

Yep agree with that.

It is something I believe, I do not mean becoming upset and displaying violence, if your feelings are hurt for whatever reason and you outwardly show you are upset it displays character. my opinion of course!!

You mean just like all children do?

All children do what? sorry do you mean all children get upset? so adults never get upset is that what you are saying?

You have a choice, and if you are lucky enough to make more good decisions than bad then good for you, enjoy the success you have created. It is not about money, chattels, token girls, fill your life with rewarding relationships, pastimes, employment and continual personal development. Ignore the content you disagree with and contribute with positivity and humour.

We chose to live here and are very lucky if the cards are in our favour - for many of us it is down to the choices we have made and our fortunate social position - apart from the Aussie of course - thieving lot bunch of scoundrels

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The only way to tell the difference between the Aussie male and female - the women can spit further.

Gripe away it is all relative and for the moment - you can choose you friends, acquaintances but not your family.

If a good looking, hard working woman chooses you for what you are and what you have accomplished see obviously doesn't know the real you. Hahah

Hang in there, your fate is already decided and there is bugger all you can do about it.

lol not sure about the Australian reference but I can see it is posted in good humor.

Is spelll cheak wrang than? he he

Don't be shy mate do it!

Just pop over to the Samui Forum if ya want some positive intelligent conversation or a few laughs GOM. We are happy to accomodate like minded individuals!

Yet you popped in here and dumbed yourself down for us. Truly greatful*

*denotes sarcasm.

Aww bless......so sensitive...

Someone likes someone lol

If you define someone as unsavory for being rude or sacastic, you better not attend any Comedy nights Kenny.

I think unsavory wasn't the word you were looking for but whatever. You get a pass.

Why would I not attend a comedy night? being rude or sarcastic to someones face would be commendable maybe foolish or is it brave, but I am able to deal with anything said to my face!!

The rude and sarcastic people on this forum would not say the same thing to you personally

Who are these rude and sarcastic people Kenny and yourself are referring to?

I've hardly been sarcastic and if linking a lmgfy link is rude, guilty as charged.

Its against the rules to name, who said your lmgfy link was rude? the comment was, telling someone to use google instead of trying to provide him with information was rude.

Just pop over to the Samui Forum if ya want some positive intelligent conversation or a few laughs GOM. We are happy to accomodate like minded individuals!

Yet you popped in here and dumbed yourself down for us. Truly greatful*

*denotes sarcasm.

But he lives on Phuket?

Getting upset is quite normal....

Is it?

I must be abnormal then.

An explanation is needed in your case, getting upset now and again would be considered showing character. hope that helps.

What's to explain?

I don't get upset at words on my computer that are from complete strangers.

Getting upset shows character? Who told you that?

It is something I believe, I do not mean becoming upset and displaying violence, if your feelings are hurt for whatever reason and you outwardly show you are upset it displays character. my opinion of course!!

If you define someone as unsavory for being rude or sacastic, you better not attend any Comedy nights Kenny.

I think unsavory wasn't the word you were looking for but whatever. You get a pass.

Why would I not attend a comedy night? being rude or sarcastic to someones face would be commendable maybe foolish or is it brave, but I am able to deal with anything said to my face!!

The rude and sarcastic people on this forum would not say the same thing to you personally

I have to agree!!

If you define someone as unsavory for being rude or sacastic, you better not attend any Comedy nights Kenny.

I think unsavory wasn't the word you were looking for but whatever. You get a pass.

Why would I not attend a comedy night? being rude or sarcastic to someones face would be commendable maybe foolish or is it brave, but I am able to deal with anything said to my face!!

Again, you need some thicker skin if you are to participate online.

Just the fact you say youre able to deal with anything said to your face shows your maturity levels can't cope with forum banter.

I haven't seen one post today that has offended you so why you so worked up?

lol I am just playing along as I would rather do this over getting soaked and covered in white powder, cant actually remember the last time I got worked up, yes I can it was last year whilst fishing, it was very big!! in fact it was huge!!!

Took care of my work commitments in Patong at 07.00 this morning. Still got hosed on the way back at 08.00. Staying at home for 2 days watching the F1 Chinese practice & qualify on BBC online service.

Good idea, I shall be watching it on Phuket cable. happy days.

Getting upset is quite normal....

Is it?

I must be abnormal then.

An explanation is needed in your case, getting upset now and again would be considered showing character. hope that helps.

If you define someone as unsavory for being rude or sacastic, you better not attend any Comedy nights Kenny.

I think unsavory wasn't the word you were looking for but whatever. You get a pass.

Why would I not attend a comedy night? being rude or sarcastic to someones face would be commendable maybe foolish or is it brave, but I am able to deal with anything said to my face!!

Do we all go through thick and thin in our dailly lives with a smile for dealing with everything ?

Nooooo, life's not like that, so l see know difference with loosing ones rag now and again using the forum.

Most real bad asses on TV have been banned, seen them come and seen them go, but for the most, me included, getting upset here now and again isn't that bad, is it ?

Getting upset is quite normal, I get upset quite alot when coronation street is not on lol

Maybe if some grew thicker skin it would help the forum greatly.

That's the main problem. That and confusing the internet with real life.

Are you saying the internet is not real life, dam I thought it was lol

Greetings fellow Phuket Forum Members,

I don't know if I am allowed to do this, but here I go anyway.

State of the Forum in this posters view is bleak. I think we should make some basic rules, because in the few years I've been on here it has spiraled in what one poster said was "a bunch of old women". After having seen the answers to a couple easy topics today, I'm almost ready to agree.............Stupid arguments over much ado about nuthin.

A guy can't ask about specific Songkran Days, nor about a watersport without the group here jumping on a suitcase like a Samsonite Monkey.

So what do you say we clean it up.

1. if you have something helpful, insightful or a direct answer, post. Otherwise don't.

2. telling someone to go use Google, is bad netiquette, out right rude

3. if you want to contribute (#1), maybe you could take a shot at #2, then post saying what you found

4.if you are just out for an argument, go kick the dog instead (although I hope it bites you or pees in the house in response)

5.try and be positive at least 95% of the time

Now get out from behind your box and go throw some water. GOM

I like the thread but I think you're missing my point.

In my home country, I was a avid bird watcher. Yes its down right boring for most people.

Once I moved to Phuket, I wanted to seek out other bird watchers and information on what birds to look out for and species.

I had a choice, Do I make a thread in the Phuket forum on Thaivisa or do I research the internet via Google for my specific and not common hobby in a area I'm new to?

If I had chose the first option, I would have zero replies and it would die off within 48 hours when a simple Google search gave me what I was looking for in seconds. Google bird watching phuket yourselves and you'll see what I mean.

The reason for the staleness of the forum is just this. You have the power of the internet in front of you yet you feel a local forum might know best and if even 50% of people bothered to use the search function we would have less of the crap but that's a whole new topic for me to debate. How many 'real estate agent' threads to we need?. Jesus..

I will take your advice and refrain from telling people to use Google because I feel stupid for needing to tell people. Research the internet, phuket forum doesn't know everything that is phuket.

Google, Wikipedia etc are wonderful things, not everyone likes to use them, if a poster asks a question is it right to be rude or sarcastic? is it not better to provide a sensible straight forward answer, I am going back to a prime example of downright rudeness, a thread a while ago asked where to get the cheapest beer, the response from certain people was disgusting and rude, even going to the length of putting down retirees who live on Phuket, to me this is the unsavory types that are ruining these forums!!!

Define unsavory types?

To me it is people who would rather be rude, sarcastic over being considerate and going out of there way to help others.

Unfortunately what you would like will never happen, most posters are decent people and provide straight forward honest answers, again unfortunately a minority of posters are not decent people and would rather post sarcasm or be rude putting down a certain individual or a certain group of ex pats, it's up to the decent people on here to just ignore the not so decent people, forums will never change they will always attract the unsavory types!!

Maybe if some grew thicker skin it would help the forum greatly.

I have a very thick skin but I hate with vengeance people who hide behind there computers and do not contribute anything other than sarcasm and rudeness!!

Greetings fellow Phuket Forum Members,

I don't know if I am allowed to do this, but here I go anyway.

State of the Forum in this posters view is bleak. I think we should make some basic rules, because in the few years I've been on here it has spiraled in what one poster said was "a bunch of old women". After having seen the answers to a couple easy topics today, I'm almost ready to agree.............Stupid arguments over much ado about nuthin.

A guy can't ask about specific Songkran Days, nor about a watersport without the group here jumping on a suitcase like a Samsonite Monkey.

So what do you say we clean it up.

1. if you have something helpful, insightful or a direct answer, post. Otherwise don't.

2. telling someone to go use Google, is bad netiquette, out right rude

3. if you want to contribute (#1), maybe you could take a shot at #2, then post saying what you found

4.if you are just out for an argument, go kick the dog instead (although I hope it bites you or pees in the house in response)

5.try and be positive at least 95% of the time

Now get out from behind your box and go throw some water. GOM

I like the thread but I think you're missing my point.

In my home country, I was a avid bird watcher. Yes its down right boring for most people.

Once I moved to Phuket, I wanted to seek out other bird watchers and information on what birds to look out for and species.

I had a choice, Do I make a thread in the Phuket forum on Thaivisa or do I research the internet via Google for my specific and not common hobby in a area I'm new to?

If I had chose the first option, I would have zero replies and it would die off within 48 hours when a simple Google search gave me what I was looking for in seconds. Google bird watching phuket yourselves and you'll see what I mean.

The reason for the staleness of the forum is just this. You have the power of the internet in front of you yet you feel a local forum might know best and if even 50% of people bothered to use the search function we would have less of the crap but that's a whole new topic for me to debate. How many 'real estate agent' threads to we need?. Jesus..

I will take your advice and refrain from telling people to use Google because I feel stupid for needing to tell people. Research the internet, phuket forum doesn't know everything that is phuket.

Google, Wikipedia etc are wonderful things, not everyone likes to use them, if a poster asks a question is it right to be rude or sarcastic? is it not better to provide a sensible straight forward answer, I am going back to a prime example of downright rudeness, a thread a while ago asked where to get the cheapest beer, the response from certain people was disgusting and rude, even going to the length of putting down retirees who live on Phuket, to me this is the unsavory types that are ruining these forums!!!