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58 minutes ago, vogie said:

A man with class, who says it better than anyone else.

 

 

Smart guy. I would not be surprised if he has bet on a falling exchange rate of the pound with leverage products.

Why waste so much taxpayer money permanently. For each a wristwatch from Patpong Market should be enough.

What a disaster. The UK is like a headless chicken. The elected representatives of the UK agree on a compromise with the EU on common damage limitation. Then the whole thing is again torpedoed and questioned.
So negotiations with the UK make no sense and are pure waste of time and resources.
What a banana republic, full of unresponsive politicians with self-expression complex.

and again and again.
Trump is a fool without respect. his selfish arrogance makes him no friends. not even a friendly word for its neighbors. his mental illness is progressing steadily. In the case of Canada, its exhilaration to the fresh and youthful agility of the Canadian pm is evident.
Trump is mentally unfit for the office of President of the United States. How long will it take for the US population to pull the rip cord here?
The senile clown inflicts so much damage that the entire UN assembly can only laugh at this idiot.

The situation is clear.
May is facing a coca cola automat and wants a pepsi.
That will not work.

51 minutes ago, oilinki said:

"EU needs UK more than UK needs EU"

"Brexit is Brexit"

"There will be adequate food"

 

EU doesn't need UK to function properly. UK would be a good thing to be on our side, but her presence is optional. 

 

I am sorry for the 49% minority who want to stay in the EU.

1 minute ago, janclaes47 said:

 

No I don't, and actually the more I drink the less I'm interested in women.

 

Were you born with that hatred against anyone you didn't vote for?

Relax.

No hate.

Just interested in people who feel trump as smart.

I only feel he is a fool.
What do you think of his idea to build a wall in the sahara?

1 hour ago, janclaes47 said:

Glad you finally agree that Trump is a smart guy, the Americans get their goods at the same price, while the Chines pay a premium for their US imported stuff.

 

You see once your eye shells fall off, you can be a Trump supporter.

 

Welcome to the club.

"Trump is a smart guy."

That's just like the women. The more you drink, the more beautiful they become.
Do you burn your own alcohol?

12 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

If chlorinated chickens from the US started appearing in UK supermarkets, they will be clearly labeled as such, and the customer will have a choice. I suspect not many would be sold.

And If you honestly think the UK will import chickens from the US, re-label them as UK chickens, then sell them on to the EU, I think you have a distorted view of UK food and trading standards.

U said UK.

I think more of criminals who then buy cheap chlorine chicken, then label them in the garage new, and try to sell them with much profit as quality produkts.

Beautiful schizophrenics.
Brexiteers complain that the borders in the south are too open and too many economic refugees infiltrate the EU unchecked.
They are right.
The eu needs strong external borders. Now the EU also needs strong external borders in the north. But that is not good now.

China simply hang, for the effective fight against corruption, the thieving officials on the gallows.

In particularly severe cases like this, Thailand should also consider this.

Those who pay taxes in thailand can only be annoyed. Everywhere there are criminal figures who rob the population. It's absolutely sickening.

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

What about imports or are we self sufficient? I also thought minimum animal husbandry standards are underpinned by EU regs

well, if brexit is realized, regardless if unregulated, with canada solution or whatever, it will lead to more bureaucracy, paper war and overall higher costs. from the end of march on, the uk is not even able to handle the existing goods flows in time. There is a lack of software, hardware and personnel. 

That there maybe one or the other batch of rotten meat slips through the UK border and lands on the uk dining plate is certainly not excluded.

Criminal UK importers and criminal EU exporters will certainly exploit the border chaos.

19 minutes ago, Retiredandhappyhere said:

I understood that Article 50 on withdrawing from the EU, made no mention of any divorce settlement.  When you leave any other kind of club, you not only cease to pay the annual fee but neither do you have any obligation for future expenses, including pensions of staff employed during your membership.

 

You were the one suggesting that the EU should screw the UK for everything they can.  Well, two can play at that game.

Sure.

The UK could flood the channel tunnel. Just wonder why the uk team agreed to the 2 negotiation steps 2 years ago:
1. separation calculation
2. future trade agreement
Now the UK wants to break contracts?

trump the great negotiator.
no idea of mentalities.
no idea about intercultural management.
he achieves nothing with his blackmail and threats.
Now the Chinese feel the conversation climate poisoned.
Trump completely overestimates his bargaining position.
Now he complains that the countermeasures hurt his voters.
What a fool, he didn't saw the reactions ahead.

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

 

But when you make your OWN food you are in control, not the UK government or the EU. Therefore you can take heed of the information available but do what you want your way.

 

If you wish to make commercially for sale, then yes you DO have to take notice of the rules. So if a company in the UK wishes to sell to an EU company then it needs to abide by the EU rules. If it does not but still wishes to sell on the UK or world market then It has to comply with other rules, which may be stricter or not.

 

The UK used to have its own rules but they were overridden by the EU rules.

 

Hence the similarity with Brexit.

Understand.

But now, as an EU member, u can kill ur chicken (if you are an autonomous farmer (self-sufficient)) and eat it.

No EU rule prevents you from doing that.

if you want to sell your poultry in the domestic UK weekly market you will be subject to random checks by the regional health authorities. 

It is true that health limits and storage regulations exist, partly according to eu law.

Question: Are the limits of the number of Salmonella or the storage regulations of the EU so bad? or too strict?

If you want to sell your poultry in big UK supermarket chains, then there are individual, much stiffer regulations that do not come from eu law but are created by the supermarkets themselves.

If you want to export your poultry, this is subject to the EU quality and testing requirements. 

So after Brexit only the export case changes. What would change then, after brexit, within the uk in this poultry example?
I can not see the added benefit here.

33 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Name me a single item imported from China that the US consumer can not live without.

Joking aside.
If China draws its rare earth card, it will also hit the US high-tech industry hard.

Neodymium

This is used to make powerful magnets used in loudspeakers and computer hard drives to enable them to be smaller and more efficient. Magnets containing neodymium are also used in green technologies such as the manufacture of wind turbines and hybrid cars.

Lanthanum

This element is used in camera and telescope lenses. Compounds containing lanthanum are used extensively in carbon lighting applications, such as studio lighting and cinema projection.

Cerium

Used in catalytic converters in cars, enabling them to run at high temperatures and playing a crucial role in the chemical reactions in the converter. Lanthanum and cerium are also used in the process of refining crude oil.

Praseodymium

Used to create strong metals for use in aircraft engines. Praseodymium is also a component of a special sort of glass, used to make visors to protect welders and glassmakers.

Gadolinium

Used in X-ray and MRI scanning systems, and also in television screens. Research is also being done into its possible use in developing more efficient refrigeration systems.

Yttrium, terbium, europium

Important in making televisions and computer screens and other devices that have visual displays as they are used in making materials that give off different colours. Europium is also used in making control rods in nuclear reactors.

10 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I opted for a dryer made in Illinois.

Not good for the clothespin industry of the USA.?

8 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Name me a single item imported from China that the US consumer can not live without.

There is non.

You can buy clothespins made in china for 1 dollar or for 3 dollars made in usa.
up to you.

The only products where China has a monopoly are the rare earths.

7 hours ago, JeffreyO said:

US based manufacturing is already a victim.  The USA simply doesn't have enough resources to "make everything at home" nor the population.  In particular, when you push for less immigration when you require a larger population to produce what you consume, you're kinda' defeating yourself... especially as birth rates decline.

if americans are willing to work for 10 dollars a day in production or reintroduce slavery, trump's tariff madness would come to fruition.

6 hours ago, timendres said:

This is getting interesting...

China really does need to play ball here:

A very different story from the US side:

1. Canada $175.5B 18.2%
2. Mexico $154.0B 16.0%
3. China $74.3B 7.7%

All of the talk of harming the US consumer depends on how it plays out. If the manufacturing moves back to the US, then the jobs created will be a benefit to the economy overall. However, if they do not, and the tariffs simply land at the US treasury, I doubt they will be spent wisely enough to make any meaningful difference.

Well, if you calculate that more accurately, there are also opposing effects.

the us retailer companies sell less, the forwarders have to transport less, etc. the companies make less profits (then pay less taxes) and you need less staff.