keithet

15 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

 

What was your extension based on?

 

For the last year Jomtien have been asking for the Chanote and 'Blue Book' to do my daughter's and wife's Ed and Guardian extensions but for my Retirement extension they are happy with only the Chanote (or a TOT bill) to prove address. (Different IOs at different counters)

 

Fortunately I own the condo.

Marriage 

And at Changwatana 

3 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

Just politely tell the IO that your owner is not willing to give his house book and if he knows anybody who can help you. The IO will direct you to the right agent and may be it will be even cheaper. 

That sounds illegal. 

IO says "I can't approve you I need landlord's condo docs" knowing I probably can't get. So I say "I can't get how can I do? "

IO answers "no problem call this person " now I use this agent and that person gives the exact same documents that I have prepared and still with out deed but now approved! 

That has to be illegal! Be a good utube video "titled welcome to LOS, now get out! "

22 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Isn't one topic enough?

 

I was hoping one trip to immigration would be enough but I was wrong. It's also hard for my wife to get week days off let alone another one in a weeks time.  So forgive me if I posted another thread with a changed headline in hopes someone can put some sence to why a imagration office wants the renter to have a copy of the owner's title of the deed and financial contract. 

So sorry that changing the title bothers you. 

I just hope that a new title will make it more specific to possibly obtain some useful info or similar experiences other than 

"imagration is making it so I use a agent"

I went to Changwatana yesterday Jan 8 with my wife for exstension based on marriage. Imagration officer told my wife in thai that we need our condo owner's deed to the condo and a sales contract??? and her house book. 

I always just gave a copy of lease and owner's id. 

Has this ever been requested before? The deed or any of it? 

I believe I've heard of house book before and wasn't shocked because I had to do a tm30 late because condo owner would not do. But my wife waited till we got home to tell me about the deed and sales contract because she new I would of got mad and want to talk to supervisor. 

She was right I was very mad. 

Well it looks like it is a slim chance that my landlord will give me copies of the deed to her condo or purchase contract. She said she was informed that a forigner has no right to ask for these docs. I don't blame her it seems strange that a department such as immigration needs docs that pertains to the department of land affairs. 

I may be able to get a copy of the house book. 

Any one know of a agent that deals with Changwatana? I have all my paperwork and financial docs. They would only need to pay the extortion fee to the officer since I'm being asked for documents that will not be given to me. 

This is my 5th exstension based on marriage. I've never been asked for deeds and whatever. 

Only lease and owner's id. 

It was window L40 all the way to the left. Never had to use this officer before. Maybe because my 

Q number was 4th in line she was disappointed I wasn't with a agent. 

I did notice a lot of gift bags pilling up for maybe "new year" gifts from agents. 

No tips but shure a hell of a lot of brown paper bags.

Has anyone had to show their landlord's deed for the condo or housebook for a exstension before? 

1 hour ago, keithet said:

Went to Changwatana today. Was denied exstension and told to come back with house book of landlord. And her title or deed to the condo and her contract of purchase. I never heard of this. 

For my first 2 years I only showed lease agreement. Then 3 years ago I rented from a private owner and was asked for their id. Ever since then I provide lease and owner's id. I am so confused and upset

Went to Changwatana today. Was denied exstension and told to come back with house book of landlord. And her title or deed to the condo and her contract of purchase. I never heard of this. 

I had my lease and her id this has always worked before. 

Now my wife has to try to get another week day off. And try to get our landlord to give us a copy of house book. She already said no so don't know what to do. I had to do tm30 because she refused to go and do. I got a week to do or I'm leaving I guess or get a new condo in a week. 

I got my us embassy letter dec 27. Have to go to immigration jan 8 for exstension. 

So I guess now I have to put 40k starting now for jan 2020's exstension. But I use my US bank to transfer to thai Kbank. But I just do that 3 times a year to save on transfer fees and to pick a better exchange rate. 

A couple of years ago I was slightly impressed with imagration. They introduced the online 90 day report. Possibly to ease their work load but made it convenient for us. I thought they were going in the right direction. 

But as of November 2018 people got notice from some embassies that exstensions with affidavits will not be a option. So here we are in 2019 and no official report of required docs needed but at least we have reports from individuals who experienced difrent requirements imagration officials asked of them. 

Next week will be my last exstension using a US embassy letter. Then after that I will do the bank method for exstension based on marriage. And hope by then I have a clear picture of what's required. Because right now reports of what is required seems to be all over the place with personal experiences. 

Thank you I needed to vent. 

15 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It is 2 months for every extension based upon marriage.

The 60 days and 3 months is for extensions based upon retirement.

I did not know that. Thank you. 

What are your thoughts about the op having to show updated bank book after his 30 day under consideration and now again in February?

Is that normal to not touch the 400,000 until after the 30 under consideration period is over?

12 minutes ago, Justin Side said:

It is 2 months.

2 months for 1st exstension, 3 months after that. And according to the op they wanted to see bank book 30 days after his 3 month seasoning  equaling 4 months and now 1 more month equaling 5 for him. 

53 minutes ago, Silurian said:

 

I went in to get the results of the 30 days under review. When I got the Queue ticket, the officer at the queue counter stated the I needed to show an updated bank book along with my passport. She didn't mention that I needed to get a copy made but I figured I better do that just in case they wanted it (which they did). I handed my passport, bank book and signed copies of the bank book to the officer at the L8 counter. She then took the documents and asked me to wait.

 

An hour later, the same officer told me that the yearly extension was not ready due to not being ready on immigration's end and not due to any problem or anything on my end. She then told me to come back a month later with the same set of documents (passport, updated bank book, copies of bank book).

 

So yes, that is 5 months of keeping the money untouched but I always have above 400K in that savings account. I make sure every month it never goes under 400K so I am not worried about that.

 

My main issue is that I need to go back yet once again to CW due to poor workmanship on Thai Immigration end. Maybe it is due to having the visa extension done over the New Year's holidays. I was also curious if this strange second results extension has happened to anyone else. It was the first time for me in 10+ years.

 

I thought it was supposed to be 3 months seasoned in the bank before you submit your tm7 and paperwork for marage exstension. Then after you get your 30 day under consideration stamp you can start using the 400,000 for living expenses. 

Are you normally suppose to keep all the money untouched till you are approved after the 30 day consideration? Which would equal 4 months but In your case 5 months total. That seems crazy long. 

I ask because soon I will have to do the 400,000 also. 

12 minutes ago, keithet said:

So now the money has to be seasoned for 3 months untouched and aditional month for 30 day under consideration period equaling 4 months without being able to use your own money?

I reread the op's post again  it sounds like he went in to get his resolts of 30 under review and was asked for bank balance then was told to come back in February with bank balance again so that's 5 months keeping the money untouched! 

So now the money has to be seasoned for 3 months untouched and aditional month for 30 day under consideration period equaling 4 months without being able to use your own money?

1 hour ago, racyrick said:

Did anyone in Khon Kaen get their letter?

I still have not received mine.

Thanks

I got mine on Sunday. The office at my condo is very slow or lazy but I say both. Because the post date was friday. 

I live in bkk. 

If you need it you can call ssa I did using Skype and asked just in case to mail me a new one. I wanted to make sure I have a original document from ssa in case immigration asks for proof of my income affidavit

1 hour ago, racyrick said:

The SSA will send another form out in September if they did not receive a reply from you. They send a final reminder in November. If nothing is received, your benefits will be suspended starting 03 February.

Good to know thank you 

A friend called today and said he just got his letter. 

I'm amazed that there is still no letter in the mail. Today is the last day for post before the long holiday. I recall always getting the cola letter 2nd to 3rd week of December. 

Normally I write on the letter what date I received in the mail. I did in my "still alive" letter.  I believe was June 17. That one is the most important because only have 60 days to reply and send back. 

7 minutes ago, USNret said:

Install a VPN on your computer or smart phone. I used VyprVPN. It's not free, but it's very good & stable and with a single purchase I can install on 2 computers and 2 iPhones. 

Yes I tried but I think my online acount is no longer actavated because I didn't use for a few years. So to start another one I need a US address which I don't have. And plus my thai address is already on file for mailing address so I'm not sure if using a family address is legal or may cause confusion. 

12 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

What I meant was that it is not the correct form to do an address change.

As I wrote you don't any form to do the address change since it can be done online or by telephone.

Sounds simple I thought I had to use the form the last 4 times I moved. Sent via email to embassy "which they don't do now" and they sent to Manila. 

So I read your other reply you just send a email to Manila with your name ssn and type your new address that you want to change to? 

4 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I don't think that is the correct form number. It is titled "SUPPLEMENT TO CLAIM OF PERSON OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES" and is about 4 pages long.

A looked through the forms and saw nothing related to an address change. Then searched using address and it took me to this page stating it can be done online or by contacting the SSA by phone. https://faq.ssa.gov/en-us/Topic/article/KA-01711

When I changed my address here I sent an email to Manila with only my name, SSN and new address on it.

You're right that is what the title of the form is and on each page at the very bottom left hand side it's labled ssa 21

SSA-21 FORM.pdf

1 minute ago, keithet said:

Down load I believe a ssa_21 change of foriegn address. 

I filled out mine on pdf filier and signed or you can scan a written one and send to ssa Manila filipines email with a scanned copy of your passport photo page. 

I use to do with embassy email and they would forward it to Manila but they stopped and we have to send to Manila ourselves. 

The info and email to manilla is in the US embassy website. 

Do as soon as possible so you can get in mid June the "I'm still alive" form in the mailing address in Thailand.