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  1. Again repeated in the English language media today that a checkpoint was only 200 meters from the shop where the murders occurred and that the four killers, after the initial shooting, walked into the shop for the head shots to ensure death. then departed, apparently without hindrance.

    For the moment putting aside the appalling brutality, what were the people manning the checkpoint doing? Were they unarmed, not trained, what's going on?

    Perhaps trying not to get shot by nut bag terrorists over a mere pittance of pay.

  2. Wow..... First the people living in the south have to worry about being blown up by rebels. And now they have to worry about being shot up by Thai security forces ?? Words fail me.

    Please read the news release again my friend, Four men dressed in similar uniforms!!!!!

    What is the implication ?? That rebels stole military uniforms, put them on, and then went to go shoot people ??

    Duh!

  3. Police: 'Too early to know' about charges in death of 2-year-old shot by brother, 5

    Published: May 1, 2013 Updated 6 hours ago

    By Greg Kocher [email protected]

    Kentucky State Police said Wednesday it is too early to say whether charges will be filed in the case of a 5-year-old boy who accidentally shot and killed his 2-year-old sister.

    Trooper Billy Gregory, spokesman for the Columbia post, initially said Wednesday that he didn't anticipate charges.

    "We don't see that there was neglect on anyone's part," Gregory said.

    Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/05/01/2622315/no-charges-expected-in-death-of.html#storylink=misearch#storylink=cpy

    It's Kentucky. Nuff said.

  4. I don't agree that this guy will typically be viewed as a "white boy" as much as he will be as an outsider/foreigner. I also don't assume as some of you do, that it will matter so much if he is. Not a whole lot of sympathy for either of these guys (yes, I know only one was executed but that's not my point): attachicon.gifImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1367417594.809357.jpg attachicon.gifImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1367417602.609897.jpg

    It could be critically important during the voir dire (jury selection) process to discover any apparent or latent racial, nationality or religious biases. These things can impact verdicts as I'm sure you know.

    Could this give rise to a Batson issue?

    Interesting, but the challenging party must make a prima facie showing. We may be in for lots of legal gymnastics just in Voir Dire.

    I use a Phd/JD jury science expert out of New York that provides a psychological profile that determines religious, political and etc. through innocuous questions such as types of magizines, shows they watch, personal habbits and etc. The problem, however, arises when all Muslims or Islamics are excluded even if all other indications are they can be fair and impartial. Getting a venue and then finding people not impacted by the media and etc. will be extremely difficult for a death-qualified jury.

  5. I don't agree that this guy will typically be viewed as a "white boy" as much as he will be as an outsider/foreigner. I also don't assume as some of you do, that it will matter so much if he is. Not a whole lot of sympathy for either of these guys (yes, I know only one was executed but that's not my point): attachicon.gifImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1367417594.809357.jpg attachicon.gifImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1367417602.609897.jpg

    It could be critically important during the voir dire (jury selection) process to discover any apparent or latent racial, nationality or religious biases. These things can impact verdicts as I'm sure you know.

    Could this give rise to a Batson issue?
  6. My issue is a little more nuanced. In the USA, the death penalty is unjustly applied mostly to blacks and Latinos. I feel Jamhar is seen by mainstream America as a WHITE boy. If the USA is going to execute so many blacks and Latinos, surely this "white boy" deserves the same horror. I am generally against the death penalty except in heinous cases.

    I don't think is it racially disproportionate to % of criminal committing violent crimes. Hypothetically, if 90 percent of murder are committed by a certain race, then you would expect 90 % of the death penalities applicable to that race. From what I saw when working for Supreme Court back in mid 90s as we had mandatory review of all death penalties, there were a comparable number of or perhaps more white inmates on death row. There are certain types of crimes with certain aggravating cricumstances that are death elgible.

    In the 1960 or before, a black man raping a white woman would typically get the death penalty in the Southern United States where a white man would not. This is no longer the case.

    Death penalty cases are extremely convoluted. They are difficult to prosecute and have many guidelines. They receive heightened scrutiny and usually involve cases in the public eye or in a local media frenzy because they are not garden variety murder cases.

    Shoot a cop, judge or a DA, does not matter what color you are. They will likely seeek death penalty.

    Kill someone while escaping from prison, you will likely be death eligible regardless of color. I worked on a case where two inmates escpaed to a wooded region around a lake. They stole a high powered rifle from a vacated summer cabin. They ambused an elderly couple by shooting them with the high powered rifle through the windows of the elderly couple's cabin. One of victims had their arm severed and sustained many horrific wounds, but died a slow painful death. White individuals committed these crimes.

    Rape, torture followed by murder may make you death elgible depending on the circumstances. One case I recall is women kidnapped from a park, raped, beat, placed in a trunk during the middle of summer, and she died from dehydration and heat stroke after being in the trunk for several days. White guy sentenced to death.

    Another case I recall is a guy poured gasoline on his wife or girlfriend while she was in a car during a domestic dispute. She was in driver seat with windown open, he poured gas on her and set her on fire. She survived for a while, but was horrifically burned. I saw pictures of her completely burned with large surgicial gashes all over her body to relieve pressure. She expired after much suffering. White guy sentenced to death.

    A couple of meth dealing white motorcyle gang members that killed people slowly, burned them in 55 gallon drums with rubber mats for days and then would crush up the bones, mix with lime and put remians in the river. They used to brag about making poeple disappear. One of their wifes got pissed or scared and turned states evidence. They found part of a vicitm's shoe burried in a trash pit for the necessary corroboration. This case gave me nightmares as the descriptions of the murders and destruciton of the bodies was so disturbing. White guys on death row.

    To be perfectly candid, these are the only cases I remember reviewing and they all inoved crazy white guys.

    Anyway, here is an article about the bomber boy's new death penalty expert lawyer.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/30/17986289-tsarnaevs-best-defense-judy-clarke-who-keeps-clients-off-death-row?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1

  7. Sorry to hear a young man lost his life. But was it not just a matter of time that what has been succesfully applied in Iraq,then Afghanistan,(IED)the simple technology would be taught to Mali's. The Fighters have learnt that a full on assualt is going to be futile,in all arenas,as air power will knock them out. Therefore the IED has proved effective. IED's are not going to go away.

    Nor are drones going away. IEDs are not much good against drones.

  8. Sounds like the government making progress despite the nay sayers and mirandizing bomber boy.

    "Law enforcement officials said they took a DNA sample Monday from Tamerlan's wife, Katherine Russell Tsarnaev, to compare to female DNA found on a piece of pressure cooker used to make one of the bombs."

    . . . and this, the Russian way of handling things. I bet mom and dad are steady in their cross hairs . . .

    "The FBI is also looking into whether the older brother met with two men considered radical Muslims during a 2012 trip to the Russian republic of Dagestan. Both men — William Plotnikov and Makmud Nidal — were killed last year in Russian operations."

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/29/17974534-could-boston-bombing-suspect-avoid-death-penalty-talks-have-started?lite

    Apparently, Judy Clarke, new attorney, is just anti death penalty, but one of her tactics is to persaude defendants to plead guilty to avoid death penalty. Candidly, as much as I hate for US to bear the expense of incarcerating him, this is fine by my and this young guy is in for an aweful, aweful experience for a very long time. Imagine no human contact, very small cell lit 24 hours a day, food and medicine comes through a think slot, solid steel door with no view of anything or knowledge whether it is day or night. Guilty plea also keep him out of trial and media circus which he may rather enjoy and saves many thousands in appeals of right regarding death sentences.

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  9. Sounds like the government making progress despite the nay sayers and mirandizing bomber boy.

    Law enforcement officials said they took a DNA sample Monday from Tamerlan's wife, Katherine Russell Tsarnaev, to compare to female DNA found on a piece of pressure cooker used to make one of the bombs.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/29/17974534-could-boston-bombing-suspect-avoid-death-penalty-talks-have-started?lite

    Apparently, Judy Clarke, new attorney, is just anti death penalty, but one of her tactics is to persaude defendants to plead guilty to avoid death penalty. Candidly, as much as I hate for US to bear the expense of incarcerating him, this is fine by my and this young guy is in for an aweful, aweful experience for a very long time. Imagine no human contact, very small cell lit 24 hours a day, food and medicine comes through a think slot, solid steel door with no view of anything or knowledge whether it is day or night. Guilty plea also keep him out of trial and media circus which he may rather enjoy and saves many thousands in appeals of right regarding death sentences.

  10. The Good thing they didn't listen to the likes of Lyndsey Graham and mirandized that loser.

    They did not mirandize him for something like 14 hours, so any possible legal challenge is still there, but the extra intelligence the FBI could have gotten out of him is lost forever.

    I don't buy anything was lost. The concern would be him passing something off to lawyer to tip off other cells or terrorists. The will eventually learn what ever he knows that is of any use.

    Based on what I have heard from some criminal defense attorneys that I respect, the case recognizing the exception to Miranda was extremely narrow. Apparently, and I have not pulled the case, the Supremes only contemplated imple questions in an emergent situation such as: where's the other bomb, who else is with the hostage or something very basic. The opinion apparently did not contemplate full interrogations well after arrest.

    The law was, again I use apparently, followed which is a judge's duty regardless as to personal beliefs or person feelings. I generally have high respect for federal judges as the vast majority of the I have been before are extremely intelligent and do a great job.

    I initially thought the Miranda exception was much broader based upon what I was hearing on TV at the time. Upon reflection and speaking to those with knowledge of the issue, logic dictates that any exception to a Miranda right would be very narrowly tailored. Protecting certain rights is a fundamental aspect of out society. Erosion of these rights to fight terrorism actually means terrorists win.

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