animalmagic

I hope to win the lottery before the end of the year!

My top 3 to see open in Pattaya are - 1. BEER 2. WINE 3. SPIRITS

My wife informed me that she had helped the security guard where we live get registered for a vaccination, which happened a week or so ago. Interestingly the registration, as viewed on the app on his phone, says he has been injected with 'coronavac'. He is pretty sure he was told by the nurse it was Sinovac at the the time. I may be cynical but it looks like they are telling people the injection is 'coronavac', which is a generic term that covers every type of vaccine, to get around the reluctance to accept Sinovac. Or could I be mistaken.............

Fully agree, but it also seemed from the video I saw on the news this morning that the driver did not attempt to slow down in the slightest but simply moved the steering wheel sharply to change lanes. With an unstable load like ice, which will not be 'tied down', that will cause the weight to shift rapidly from one side to another and the rear wheels to lose grip before the pickup spins off as happened. Moronic driving of the highest order.

Was that the cigar or the girlfriend?

Generalisations are usually inaccurate, but I used it for comedic effect. Still not impressed with the system. I have managed to get into a system thru a friend of a friend, and I don't blame any person who has managed to get vaccinated despite the shockingly bad system of vaccination roll outs.

I registered on first day with expatvac but received the 'wrong visa notice'. Reapplied using the shortened version of my given name and got accepted. Had no further info or contact from them since. I'm over 60. Frankly there seems to be more chance of Oscar Pistorius catching athlete's foot than this system providing jabs.

If I remember correctly the cost was approx 4,000 thb per person. Hmm, wonder what interest they are making on 1.6 billion thb in the bank?

My question would be - does the video actually show the amount of time the air supply was cut off for? If the air supply was verifiably cut off for the period you state then the charge of murder, and the possibility of it being the verdict, is strengthened as any normal person, even Thai police officers, would expect death to be the result of that action. If, however, the air supply was not totally cut off for all that period then it adds credence to the finding of torture gone wrong and possibly manslaughter. For me I am not confident in the legal system anyway and they should all be charged with further offences relating to the torture and attempted cover up in order that the perpetrators can at least be found guilty of lesser charges if anything goes wrong with the main charge. The video shows them all committing several serious offences and they should therefore be charged with all of them.

I see what you are trying to say but it is neither a 'bogus' argument nor a defence of the accused; it is stating simple facts. You quote greed, cruelty and cover up as being 3 murder criteria. Greed - in this case the greed was in trying to get info from the deceased in order to make profit from it. As the victim actually died it became impossible to make any profit as this was dependent on him staying alive and giving the necessary info to the accused. Cruelty - this was a technique, similar to water boarding, intended to force the victim to give up info which he could not do as the cruelty ('torture'). The torture resulted in hypoxia and increased levels of CO2 in the victim and this can cause death even if the plastic bag is removed and the asphyxiation torture ceases. Cover up - the cover up began after the perpetrators realised they had screwed up big time. None of the factors you quote prove an intent to kill before the torture commenced, in fact the desire to profit from the torture suggests the perpetrators wanted and needed the victim to stay alive. Personally I would be happy for all the perpetrators to be found guilty of murder and punished accordingly, however the facts of the case may not provide the necessary proof beyond reasonable doubt.

Fully understand your point of view. However, it is necessary to prove beyond reasonable doubt that there was an intent to kill in the mind of the person who committed the killing. The suspect has already stated that he did not intend to kill but to elicit information; it all depends on how the judge and the system assess that. I'm not defending the actions of any of the people involved, simply stating that the intent must be proven to be successful with a charge of murder.

It could be either and depends on the quality of evidence presented to the court. Murder is dependent on proof of malice AND an intent to murder whereas Manslaughter simply requires proof of the unlawful killing. Some jurisdictions only allow Manslaughter as an alternative verdict to Murder for the court if the prosecution does not prove the elements of Murder beyond reasonable doubt. Relevant law sections - Murder Death (Sections 288-294) | Thailand Law Library (siam-legal.com)

400+ vehicles is a huge amount. Ask the question if he is the one to have bought any of those vehicles to add to his extensive collection? Next question is where did he get the money from? Was the money paid to buy at auction checked for its source? Is it possible the money used is therefore from a criminal endeavour? Money laundering springs to mind.

I'd guess both. the cars are worth a fortune and only extorting money from drug traffickers may not make enough; trafficking the drugs would make much more. Would be interesting to see where he got the cars, I'd guess at the auctions of seized assets of drug traffickers where the person who makes the arrest gets a cut of the money paid. Good earner, pay someone to get the car, arrest them, seize the car for auction, then buy back at reduced price; and then get a percentage of the auction price back.

That would cost a lot more than the cars!