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This is yet another step the world governments are taking to implement their NWO. "Supposed terrorist attacks" are being used as excuses to add increased measures, and speed up the whole process. With 1 airline incident a huge step forward in their agendas is implemented. Interesting how all of these governments; with their super sophisticated intelligence, and collaborated spy programs, security at airports, etc. are able to let people get on a plane with passports that have not only been stolen, but that are in the system as being reported stolen. Then they "apparently" completely loose an airliner with no way of being able to find it. I don't buy any of it for a second. And now they are even including iris scans? At what point will citizens lose complete privacy, independence and freedom. I suppose blood samples are just around the corner. These practices would have been unheard of, and completely unlawful; and probably are against the constitutions of most 1st world countries; but they're doing it anyway.........

Sorry, but I don't get the paranoid big deal. I was finger-printed when I joined the Royal Canadian Mounted Police back in the 90s. I was fingerprinted again when I moved to Singapore in 1999. Happy for that. When I arrive at the airport here I just put my thumb in a scanner and I'm through immigration ... no lineup, no talking to an immigration officer, etc. I'm in my apartment in less than 45 minutes from my plane touching down. I experience that nowhere else in the world. And what exactly am I giving up. Well I guess if I rob a bank, I'll be easier to catch with those prints on file. But I don't have any such plans at the moment.

Also note that I've met a number of people from other countries (including Thailand) who get a new passport with an altered name, etc., after they have had 'a problem' here. And they're able to come into the country again because it looks like their first time. That's why the gov't is going down this road...

I guess my concern is that such personal information, falls into the hands of an organization looking for a "fall guy". Finger prints, are enough to make a innocent person guilty; and now, you'll never know who has that information...

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. You mean a government agency could somehow 'plant fingerprints' to make an innocent person appear guilty? Is this even possible? And if it's a foreign government using your fingerprints to frame you that you worry about... well, would they really need to go to that trouble if they wanted to frame. Sorry if I'm being thick...

Finger prints can easily be planted at the scene of a crime or for the purposes of a conspiracy. Now a world database (which we all know is not safe), will have that information along with everything else attached to it. The fear is that organizations will use information to profile individuals and find candidates. I don't think people realize, the implications of such rules longterm. Now it's finger prints at the boarders; next it's being used to place you in a category; where depending on your profile, you will be told what you can do, and where you can go. They can already use smart chips, which are in items you purchase, bank cards, etc; to track and follow your movements....

You're being thick. There isn't enough variation in fingerprints for seven billion humans to all have unique ones.

Believe there is as even twins have different, distinguishable fingerprints.

Finger prints can easily be planted at the scene of a crime or for the purposes of a conspiracy; if you have them.

This is yet another step the world governments are taking to implement their NWO. "Supposed terrorist attacks" are being used as excuses to add increased measures, and speed up the whole process. With 1 airline incident a huge step forward in their agendas is implemented. Interesting how all of these governments; with their super sophisticated intelligence, and collaborated spy programs, security at airports, etc. are able to let people get on a plane with passports that have not only been stolen, but that are in the system as being reported stolen. Then they "apparently" completely loose an airliner with no way of being able to find it. I don't buy any of it for a second. And now they are even including iris scans? At what point will citizens lose complete privacy, independence and freedom. I suppose blood samples are just around the corner. These practices would have been unheard of, and completely unlawful; and probably are against the constitutions of most 1st world countries; but they're doing it anyway.........

Sorry, but I don't get the paranoid big deal. I was finger-printed when I joined the Royal Canadian Mounted Police back in the 90s. I was fingerprinted again when I moved to Singapore in 1999. Happy for that. When I arrive at the airport here I just put my thumb in a scanner and I'm through immigration ... no lineup, no talking to an immigration officer, etc. I'm in my apartment in less than 45 minutes from my plane touching down. I experience that nowhere else in the world. And what exactly am I giving up. Well I guess if I rob a bank, I'll be easier to catch with those prints on file. But I don't have any such plans at the moment.

Also note that I've met a number of people from other countries (including Thailand) who get a new passport with an altered name, etc., after they have had 'a problem' here. And they're able to come into the country again because it looks like their first time. That's why the gov't is going down this road...

I guess my concern is that such personal information, falls into the hands of an organization looking for a "fall guy". Finger prints, are enough to make a innocent person guilty; and now, you'll never know who has that information...

It is not supposed terrorists that set of the finger printing and tourist measures being implemented all over the world. Thailand is no exception. There is but one main reason why they do it. BECAUSE THEY CAN. Thanks to computers and unlimited disk space they can now store anything they want in never ending databases and they will do it. There will be more and more of this until they find that it will adversely impact tourism and then, some years down the road, they will use that database power as a plus. Then the legitimate tourist will get the best all around.

By the legitimate tourist, you mean the top 10% with the most money, and connections. Some years down the road, the other 90% will be allowed certain liberties and destinations to travel, depending on their personal status. Later, some regular guy with a past driving violation he received, for some bull$@#% reason, by a corrupt cop; will have to stay home. Interesting to note; it's a % of these people getting the best all around, who are the same people who fund these terrorist organizations. When has anyone ever heard of a blue collared worker, with the connections or training; to fund and send people into a country, and have them fly jetliners into buildings. What happens, is you end up with a % of the population, who are pissed off, and have to resort to alternative measures, just to afford themselves some simple freedoms. It's so disappointing knowing, that most of the people making these rules, are the same ones who break them. The movie "In Time" or "Elysium" come to mind, as types of possible directions this world could be heading, down the road.......

This is yet another step the world governments are taking to implement their NWO. "Supposed terrorist attacks" are being used as excuses to add increased measures, and speed up the whole process. With 1 airline incident a huge step forward in their agendas is implemented. Interesting how all of these governments; with their super sophisticated intelligence, and collaborated spy programs, security at airports, etc. are able to let people get on a plane with passports that have not only been stolen, but that are in the system as being reported stolen. Then they "apparently" completely loose an airliner with no way of being able to find it. I don't buy any of it for a second. And now they are even including iris scans? At what point will citizens lose complete privacy, independence and freedom. I suppose blood samples are just around the corner. These practices would have been unheard of, and completely unlawful; and probably are against the constitutions of most 1st world countries; but they're doing it anyway.........

I liked the way it was a week ago. This statement basically reverts everything back to the same way it was in the first place. Nothing will change; The documents that they are now asking for are very easy to obtain, and always have been. Travel agencies sell fake documentation all the time. This will stop nothing, making even more money for the ones that run illegal practices.

Lies; absolute lies. It is impossible that this amount of garbage burning away would not be harmful in the atmosphere, or that it would pass an air quality test. We have smelled the affected area from over 6 kms away, and it burns your eyes. I would like to see it made public/video as to exactly what type of testing was involved!

Someone really needs to write a animated sitcom based on the events of this city, in this exact type of setting. Come on, Seth!!!

Wow; the goose that lays the golden eggs!

What is the point of this exactly; are the authorities moving in on boarding up the city? There are going to be a lot of very unhappy sailors.......

The point was and is, an easy 5000-10000 baht, in some cases possibly more and only takes 15 mins and a step across the road.

Not to mention media coverage of safety measures for tourists, while in the mean time, 100 room maids are stealing from the guests and police could not be bothered to chase them down.

Well, I guess it's an easier way of making sure your girls pay up; and the ones who don't have an money are kicked back to the other side of the street.........

What is the point of this exactly; are the authorities moving in on bulldozing the city? " they wanted to make sure they were not connected to any crimes"; THEY'RE PROSTITUTES! There are going to be a lot of very unhappy sailors.......

Yes; we have spoken................

Who's safety standards?

"Cops to crackdown on themselves" I think is a better headliner.........

I would love to see the bill for all of trips and shopping sprees away from Thailand, and the private jet that was attained. It's funny how all of that ended, once the lost money accusations began to fly.

You should be worried, wait until more people start visiting Vietnam. Although, I would think you have bigger issues to worry about. An "educated" person would know that these problems are irrelevant, if you can't solve the political issues at home!

Out of curiosity, what would be the punishment for 16 year old say in US or AU or UK?

I'm not sure; we can ask Bieber; I'm sure he was advised?

I'll bet the dude caught shoplifting the white rum gets a couple; not that there is anything wrong with that; just saying............

What is everyone complaining about? Bus drivers and van drivers are rarely sober (yaba or alcohol or both). The drivers will kill 20 people, flee the scene of the accident and get their job back next month. Everyone talks or texts in their van or bus. Why does everyone want to attack her ? It's the system!!

Exactly!

I think most, if not all of the comments are attacking the system?

I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like this in any other country. Where you openly lie, than back up the fact in the statement you publicize? Wait; maybe on FOX news..............

The prison term, however, was commuted to four year probation instead with 48 hours of charity working for one year.

Seriously? No comment Words fail me

Guaranteed, she doesn't do a second of community service, or anything else. There will be an excuse for that as well..

All smoke and mirrors!

Tell me she isn't driving for a while.

She will be back on the road tomorrow; driving under an assumed identity with a licence from another country, or not. Does it really matter here?

You politicians just love to stir the pot.............

Dopers rise in the streets and cheer on other dopers. Nothing new and not even remotely interesting. Society doesn't need increased levels of stupidity and we certainly don't need more stoned fools engaging in dangerous practices after indulging in this so called harmless wacky weed.

Keep these smelly drugs as illegal substances and increase penalties for such stupidity, that'll fix them.

It must be a sad existence you lead, poor old dopers, time to get a life and act responsibly, me thinks

Stoned fools engaging in dangerous practices; you must have had "Reefer Madness" pushed down your throat. The only practices I've seen from these "dopers" involves laying around at home, or in a park somewhere. Why not condemn smoking and drinking? these are much more serious problems in society. Not to mention that this drug is used to treat some serious conditions people have, without exposing them to the harmful side effects a lot of prescribed medications cause. I myself am not a pot user, but I think people should be allowed to do what they want, as long as they are responsible about it, and not hurting anyone else. What I can't stand, is a world where governments are allowed to control their citizens and force them in to living by their unjust, corrupt, and hypocritical standards......

I always condemn Drinking and Smoking. The problems that come from these substances are horrendous.

The fact that "you" haven't seen problems created by dopers doesn't mean that there arnt problems. You either need to switch on or get out a little more.

As for the last sentence about governments, I will leave it at saying that The grubby and irresponsible people need to be controlled to protect the decent people, I could go into more detail but can't be bothered as no doubt the dopers parade knows better, can't argue with these guys.

If you read my comment, I stated that these types of substances are fine if used responsibly. If you really want to dive in to health issues, you'll find that everything manufactured or made on this planet will harm you eventually; There is a study out there for everything. And banning substances does not make the problem go away; if anything it makes it worse. Education is key. It seems you are in favour of the condemnation of all substances. You further feel we need to be controlled to protect ourselves. You should know that it's not only the "grubby and irresponsible" people that are controlled, but everyone. What is a decent Person anyway; what does that even mean? Using CNN, or any other form of media from the U.S. to back up ay statement means nothing, as they are a complete joke. They are only in existence, to stir the pot.

For anyone out there who feels we need to be controlled more than we already are; should think about moving to a place like North Korea. There you can enjoy living in a controlled environment, where you don't have to worry about what people are doing in there spare time, or behind closed doors.