Kerryd

Why not just call them Unisex Whole Covers...that should just about Cover every gender in Patters.....unless ofcourse the gender is Half and Half

What about the "holes of the second category" ? Would they need seperate covers ?

Keeping in mind that not all holes were created equal, with some being larger than others, and some allowing a "grater" flow than others !

City Hall could create a "hole" new department to deal with these holes.

Traffic enforcement would go a long way to solving the problem. Unfortunately, except for the odd helmet crackdown, you hardly ever see the police enforcing any traffic laws.

Those intersections with the count-down timers are a joke. People see the time clicking down and even though they may be 100 meters or more away, they speed up and hit the intersection at full-speed after the lights have changed.

This problem is made worse by the people waiting to go, who anticipate the light change by watching the timer. They then jump the gun, entering the intersection before the lights change.

Many of our "home" countries have had generations of decent traffic enforcement, by police that are (usually) hard to bribe. We have driver education programs and stiff penalties for those that cross the line.

Part of the problem here seems to be that traffic enforcement is too demeaning of a task for high-ranking officers (sergeants and above, and officers). Unfortunately, most of the police force seems to be made up of officers and people in the rank of sergeant and above, leaving very few to do the low level, "non-sexy" jobs like enforcing traffic laws.

I use T.o.T.'s ADSL package (1,024 kbps speed) for 1,000 baht/month. During the last 6 months, I've only had one short period where the service was crap (plus one other short period after a nearby transformer blew and took out the phone, TV and electrical lines. Even then, only lost the service for a couple hours).

Pattaya Klang/3rd Road area shouldn't be a problem as that is pretty much where T.o.T. had their main office, and the Communications Authority of Thailand (CAT) is in the same area.

You'll probably need to have a normal phone line installed (3,500 baht ?). Then buy the wireless modem and get your internet connection setup (another couple thousand baht).

Be aware that it won't happen overnight. It could take weeks to get set up. I applied for my phone line in early December '05. My phone was installed about 5 weeks later, and it took almost 3 weeks more before my internet connection was up and running.

Been pretty smooth since then though.

I've seen this before. I guess 6 1/2 wweks makes her an expert. Maybe she should do a little more research prior to publishing this crap.

We had a big discussion on this shortly after it first came out last year. Most people think she is full of crap.

In 6 1/2 weeks she:

built houses in Khao Lak,

taught English in Kantharalak and Lamplaimat, and

helped stem the burgeoning sex trade in Pattaya.

Wow. Must have a big, red "S" on her shirt.

Heatwave in the Uk DB, They reckon records are going to broken this week. Luvverley Jubberley String vest and handkerchief on head time

Even CNN has a story on that.

CNN - UK's heat may surpass Bangkok

It's all daleyboys fault !

But no matter. He will be returning home soon, so the gray skies and drizzle will start again (in England)!

Now that you've mentioned the plod, whatever happened to the Flying Squad Plod?

Can't get off the ground.

Being the newest, sexiest division of the PD, the highest ranking members have decided they should be the flyers (Generals and above only thank you).

Problem is, the machines were made to carry the weight of new (skinny) Privates and Corporals, but the Pattaya Police doesn't have anyone under the rank of Sergeant !

The Generals, with the extra weight of their...........medals ........ is too much for the little machines.

Pattaya is safe enough to walk around. Apart from the risk of falling down a hole in the pavement and breaking your neck, or having to walk in the road, because shops and restaurants block your path.

True ! I've come closer to being hurt/injured by the conditions of the sidewalks/roads than I have for any other reason.

I had thought about bringing my roller-blades on my trip in 2000, but decided it wasn't worth it due to the poor pavings. Nothing has improved since then.

I do find that the conditions can make it a fun challenge while walking from place to place. Dodging, swerving, hopping, sudden stops, twisting and weaving through the people/vendors/dogs and the conditions of the roads/sidewalks can make it a good workout !

I use the tap water for brushing my teeth, showering/shaving, and washing the dishes.

For drinking and cooking, I use the cheapy 5 baht "purified" water (20 baht for a 6 pack of 1 liter bottles).

I could get the larger plastic drums, but they are a pin in the patootie to carry up the 3 flights of stairs to my apartment. And once in place, trying to pour just a little water can be annoying and messy.

I've glanced at the water filtration systems they sell in most of the big stores, but don't want to get in to the hassles of replumbing right now (as I don't know how long I will be in-country, or in this apartment, currently).

Once I get settled into a more permament situation, it is something I'll look at doing though.

Land surrender prices announced for Jomtien Second Road

The first length from Thappraya Road to the Matchanu Curve will have 171 surrendered plots, with the price set for a large plot being 14,000 baht, and a small plot 16,000 baht.

The second length from the Matchanu Curve to the Mae Sriruan Restaurant crossroads has a set price for a large plot at 12,000 baht, and a small plot at 14,000 baht. The other three lengths need additional surveying, and will have a price set during the next meeting.

Am I missing something ? The set price for a large lot is less than for a small plot ?

Hmmmm, 30 meters wide (180 feet). Sounds bigger than Sukhumvit Road !

Then again, the design could account for a center divider and sidewalks. That could take 15 meters off the overall width, leaving about 2.5 meters of width for each of the 6 traffic lanes.

SIX days with no replies ?!?!?! See what happens when you let daleyboy go on vacation ?

I think it RAINed here (in Pattaya) this morning (7 am ?). As I was pretty drunk when I fell into bed around 3:30 am, I was in no condition to get up and look.

It sounded vicious, not really heavy drops, but coming down hard and fast. Didn't last long, and when I eventually crawled out of bed, it was hard to tell that it had RAINed at all !

I thought all the "man-hole covers" were in Boyztown ?

Had the same problem on a couple of threads.

I usually open multiple windows, and I've found that the pages (threads) with the problem will eventually load, given time.

(IE Explorer).

Seems to be fine today though.

This thread is ruining my love life !

After reading the first couple dozen posts here, it made me "tink too mut". The other night the g/f rolled over, reached out with her hand, patted my face then rested her hand almost covering my mouth.

I suddenly realised it was her left hand ! And she has a sit-down toilet (but no flush tank), and no bum-gun and no toilet paper (just a pail and a bucket) !!

I quickly snatched her hand away from my face and set it between us. She tried to move it back but I held it down. No idea what kind of sick, perverted dreams she was having that would include her sticking that hand on my mouth

Was over a (Thai) friends place. Went to the hong naam, (a squatter, no bum gun, no paper and a couple rather large, mean looking cockroaches).

Changed my mind, went out and hopped on the moto for the quick ride to the nearest Family Mart to buy some paper. I used to keep a roll in a plastic bag in the saddlebags for the moto, but someone swiped the last one.

The cockroaches were hiding when I returned, which wasn't good as I kept expecting them to attack when I was at my most vulnerable.

Both bum guns in my place are set on water-cannon pressure. Using them when cleaning the bathroom is difficult enough. Trying to use them for more "sensitive" tasks could be painful.

And finally, thanks for all the kind words about the BBQ ribs. The next pissup we'll try hickory smoked pulled pork sandwiches and mesquite smoked BBQ baked beans.

Great, got me drooling already.

Speaking of which, mind letting the rest of us know where we could enjoy more of your fine cooking ?

As most of us know, discussions about bargirls (including pics) is frowned upon here. There are sites where you can post all the pics and do all the talking about bar-girls that you want, just not here.

This has nothing to do with whether or not someone is gay, or if someone likes/doesn't like Pattaya.

And as for "picture 3" in that other thread, it was a picture of a bar, taken during "Loy Krathong", not a picture of some bargirls met on the beach.

OK, going to try again to write a short report on the get together. Had the last one finished and was previewing it when my connection went down. Took T.o.T. 7 hours to get it back up again.

The Pissup began at Lennies of course. I arrived a few minutes before 7 to try and scarf as many free tacos as I could, (trying to make sure there'd be none left when Artisan showed up !)

Big Thank You to Sunny Valentine and his staff at Lennies for hosting part 1 of the pissup, and for the free booze and tacos (I only ate 6 though. Didn't want to be greedy).

Sunny Valentine was already at Lennies (naturally) when I arrived. Shortly after we were joined by Jai Dee and his better half. daleyboy and wife (minus the wee one) arrived just after Jai Dee.

We started keeping a list of names as more members arrived. How ever, I have the distinct impression that some members made an appearance and left again without anyone knowing. Therefore the list may be missing a few names.

Many conversations amongst the 2 main groups of members and, of course, at one point the spouses got together and who knows what they were discussing.

Although things were going well at Lennies, around 9 pm the decision was made to saunter over to the Blues Factory. We knew that davethailand had a buffet laid on, and nobody wanted to miss out on more free food !!

I almost didn't make it to Walking Street with the rest of the gang, as I was jumped by a greeter girl that I knew from another place and time. Fortunately she was less than half my size and weight, and the lure of free food gave me the willpower to escape her clutches.

(My preoccupation with food had to do with not eating all day in preparation for the evening. Needed to fill up on grub before drinking too much whiskey).

We arrived in good order at the Blues Factory to find that davethailand wasn't present, but the buffet was. Being gentlemen we let the ladies have first crack at the food. After watching them for a minute, we started getting worried that there wouldn't be anything left for the rest of us.

The ladies were kind, and there was plenty of food left for the rest of us. The downside was, just after loading our plates and chowing down, Buckwheat showed up with the Bar-B-Que ribs (I was tempted to dump my plate of food and load up on ribs, but decided that would be wasteful and in bad taste. As it was, I only had room for one yummy rib)

daleyboy was collecting the bins for the first round of drinks. How ever, as members ordered seconds, and more members showed up, Jai Dee was taking their "bins" and adding them to daleyboy's cup !

I ordered a round for the group and made sure the waiter knew it was to be put on my bin.

Shortly after the round (and the bin) arrived, Jai Dee was kind enough to inform us that GEORGE had contributed a sum of money to the party. That is why he had been collecting the bins in the one cup. Had us worried for a few minutes though.

I was even prepared to whip out my unofficial Thai Visa membership card and see if the staff would fall for it, but it wasn't needed (this time).

I had to sneak out a couple of times to scour the nearby bars and clubs for any members that may have gotten lost. Even had a peek in Jenny's as I was riding the escalator, no sign of kurgen though.

I managed to check out 6 clubs and bars, but no sign of......who ever I was looking for ?

britmaveric was doing a fine job of keeping LovelyCutie and Scoopyboobies entertained in the meantime. davethailand did make it in, along with kurgen.

Again, we tried to keep track of the various members present, but have no doubt missed a few.

I came back from one "scouting mission" to find that Jai Dee and daleyboy had snuck out with their spouses. This was around 11:30 ?

I stuck around a bit longer, until Lam Morrison finished his first song.

There were quite a few members still enjoying the atmosphere (and GEORGE's hospitality !) when I left.

Despite leaving at 11:30, I didn't actually make it home until 3 am, but that is another story.

The list of those that we know did show up (apologies to those whose names were missed):

Jai Dee

daleyboy

Kerryd

PattayaFox

Sunny Valentine (Lennies - Thanks again for hosting the party !!)

AsiaWolfie

Rimmer

Djinn

britmaveric

LovelyCutie

Scoopyboobies

Artisan

davethailand (Blues Factory - Thanks again for hosting the party !!)

Buckwheat (Thanks for the yummy ribs. I forgot to swipe a panful as I was leaving)

Monty

Chavenoy (spelling ?)

pluto-manibo

The Bounder

kurgen

I must say, some people were surprised to see the faces behind the avatars. For example, daleyboy's stomache doesn't look anything like his avatar suggests.

(He is also quite the large lad. Glad I didn't spike his Fanta or say too many nasty things about him !)

Even kurgen doesn't look like his avatar, surprisingly enough !

Can't think of any juicy gossip or scandals. Everyone seemed quite well behaved, though britmaveric, LovelyCutie and Scoopyboobies did seem to be spending ALOT of time together.

All in all, I think everyone had a good time. We really should do this kind of thing on a more regular (once a month ?) basis, instead of every 6 or more months. Wouldn't expect all the freebies (food and booze) for monthly meetings though, unless someone really wanted to provide them !

Once again, a big thanks to everyone that helped to make this happen. Nice to see you aren't all a bunch of Wan-kers !

(going to save a copy of this first, then try posting it, just in case ToT pulls another stunt.)

I checked out the magazine's home page, and found out how they got their "data" for this survey.

"Subscribers" were asked to participate in February and March 2006.

As well, a "select group of subscribers" were sent email invitations to participate.

They supposedly have a subscriber base of just over 942,000, plus 35,000 single copy sales per month. If they had to email people to get them to participate, I'd say they weren't getting a very good response to their initial call for subscriber participation.

When you take the subscriber base, and then ask them to identify the best cities and "islands" in various parts of the world, as well as the best hotels, airlines (international and domestic), best large cruise line, best small cruise line, best safari outfitters and best car rental agencies, you can bet that some places aren't getting a lot of votes.

Consider that a large number of the subscribers probably don't travel that much, expecially outside the country. Then consider how many of those that do travel, actually use a large or small cruise line, or rent a car at their destination, or use a "safari outfitter", or visit an "island" in a certain region of the world.

(Cape Breton Island in Canada was voted the Best Island in North America this year. How many people actually went there and rated it ? 2 ? 3 ?)

I mean seriously, how many people go to Beirut or Cape Town as travel destinations ? But places like Paris, Athens, Cairo and other well known spots don't make the top 10 ?

Just goes to show, doesn't take a lot of real, hard, solid data to sway public opinion. Just write a story and don't mention little things like how many people actually voted for each category, and then sell it as an "indepth, knowledgeable" article. People will look at this and go "Wow, maybe we should go to Beirut on our next holiday, instead of Paris !"

Pathetic.

Daley, just sms you via JD.

See you monday pal?

Is it Monday or Tuesday ?

Oh yeah. Party went well, though there were a few no-shows

I'll post a list when I'm a little more sober (and not otherwise "engaged")

Proper thanks to follow. Need sleep. Eyes drooping.........

Well i hope there is loads of food, cause i am <deleted> starving, after i spent 2000 last night on dinner i need some free food

You got my fanta chilling kerry? If not i have brought my own squash, any chance i can put a bottle behind the bar and then just order water?

6 and a bit hours to go, i might even bring the little chap to lennies then take him home before we hit the BF. Bonus got the sil babysitting so we dont have to be too early home

See you all tonight.

Lennies i sputting on a spread of Tacos

and Dave is putting on a buffet as well.

As for your.....Fanta.......I'm working on filling the bottle.....uhn, little more.......squeeze......yeah, that's it.....almost there..........OK !

Bottles full and heading for the fridge !

(Fanta looks like Apple Juice doesn't it ?)

4 and a bit hours to go !

Official ThaiVisa Pattaya Pissup Attendees:

Date: 15 July 2006

Time: 7:00PM - ??????????? (last TV Member Standing)

Where: Lennies (Located at the 2nd Road end of Soi Diamond) and Blues Factory

Davethailand

britmaveric

lovelycutie

ScoopyBoobies (arai wah! )

morty

johnh101

kerryd

Dboy

Daleyboy

Jai Dee

Sunny Valentine

Game4Shame ?????

Kurgen

Blue????

Bambina?????

Professor Fart (Delux A Go Go Girl Package )

AceFace????

UG????

dvk1951

Pattaya Fox

Devilboy

Rimmer

Chatters

Thaiflyer1

Mobi D'Ark

raro ???????

Firefan ??

kreon ??

sego

thebounder?????

djinn

monty

NINE hours to go !!

Official ThaiVisa Pattaya Pissup Attendees:

Date: 15 July 2006

Time: 7:00PM - ??????????? (last TV Member Standing)

Where: Lennies (Located at the 2nd Road end of Soi Diamond) and Blues Factory

Davethailand

britmaveric

lovelycutie

ScoopyBoobies (arai wah! )

morty

johnh101????

kerryd

Dboy

Daleyboy

Jai Dee

Sunny Valentine

Game4Shame ?????

Kurgen

Blue????

Bambina?????

Professor Fart (Delux A Go Go Girl Package )

AceFace????

UG????

dvk1951

Pattaya Fox

Devilboy

Rimmer

Chatters

Thaiflyer1

Mobi D'Ark

raro ???????

Firefan ??

kreon ??

sego

thebounder?????

djinn

TEN hours to go !!

Are cock fights a national pass time in Pattaya? I mean if there is a house next to your condo is there ten crowing rosters next door?

I haven't heard a rooster crowing in ages (months and months). I hardly ever hear of cock-fights around here. Maybe in the rural areas.

Do condo residents have respect for there neighbors when it comes to noise levels from TV and music?

Same same every where. Some people are better than others.

What is the air con situation in most condos, central air, unit in wall or window, or split type unit?

Split types for the most part.

I've read about piled up garbage that is some times burnt, but when you look out side about 7:00AM is there smoke coming up every where? Are food venders cooking with charcoal every where or do they use gas?

Don't see garbage getting burnt, just piling up in places. Some food vendors use charcoal, some use gas. The only time I notice it is when one passes close by.

Do you usually get a little breeze in the after noon or is it dead calm all the time?

Breeze and wind varies. No set time. Being sea-side, there are not too many periods of "dead-calm".

When you are driving or walking in the rush hour traffic just about dark do the head lights look like every one is going around in fog?

No. The drivers and walkers may be in a fog (as in drunk), but the actual conditions are pretty good, except when it rains. Smog isn't a big problem here.

For those living the condo life style, is it better to reside on the top or at the bottom close to the pool? Thanks-Liketobe

I recommend the 7th floor or below. Why ? Most modern fire-fighting equipment (ladder trucks for example) can't extend higher than the 7th floor of hi-rise buildings (so I've heard).

Check the fire-escapes in the buildings you are looking at (are the doors blocked/locked ?). What kind of fire detection/suppression/fighting equipment is present ?

Personally, I wouldn't want to live in a condo. Too little control over what goes on around you. But to each their own !

Well, the party starts at 7pm at Lennies, what do you consider last minute ?

6.59 pm

Don't be late. Lennies is putting on a feed of Tacos. Show up at 7:01 and they'll all be gone (I'm starving myself today in preparation !)

I was warned many years ago that Bar girls like to carry a knife or have one handy.

I wouldn't believe everything you hear from friends who know somebody that had a cousin whose room-mate met a guy that once travelled to Thailand.

I've known many "bar-girls" and "go-go dancers" and have never seen any of them with a knife, not have I ever found one on them.

Never mind that the knife used in this case was quite large and would have been very difficult for a Thai girl to be carrying around unless she had a large purse (some do, but most of the ones I know have a small purse or none at all).

Another ancient thread resurrected.

Although many foreigners have been sentenced to death in Thailand, none have actually been executed in years. All of them eventually have their sentences reduced to life in prison.

Thailand began executions again in 1995 after an 8 year moratorium. In the 12 years since then, they have executed 48 people, but none in 2005 or 2006 (yet).

Department of Corrections - Thailand - Death Penalty

From what I can find, the last foreigners to be executed were from Hong Kong and Taiwan in 2001.

As for these Russians, I looked at the prisoner lists for Bangkwang prison but don't see their names listed anywhere. Could be that they were transferred to Russia under some kind of government arrangement.

Foreign Prisoner Support Service