JCauto

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

You got a lot of prejudice, dude.

 

And you think your the good guy in the equation, jeez.

 

You can hang out with low lives all you want.

No, not prejudice, just a lot of observational experience. It won't surprise you to find there's actually a statistical correlation. But that is not the topic of this thread.

That you consider Thai villagers to be "low lives" tells me everything about your point of view. I have always and continue to work at village level and I love it. You get the full range of people at village level, it's not that much different from the city. In fact, you're surrounded by them every day if you live in Bangkok. I don't understand why you live here if you think so poorly of the Thai.

3 hours ago, 2009 said:

You feel comfortable living with such people??

 

You make them sound like savages the way you describe them.

 

Well, don't come crying to us when you accidentally bump into someone and end up getting a gun pulled on you. 

 

That actually happened to me in Isaan at a family gathering and the bloke was related. He held the grudge for months before confronting me. ????

 

These people are just one slight away from trying to end your life. 

 

And once you get to know their "culture" you'll know that even the way they treat their own family is deplorable. A lot of neglect and abuse goes in these villages. They are so out of touch with reality.

 

We've all read on the news relatives or best friends killing each other over a beer or small family matter when their ego get bruised. It happens in these kinds of places.

Yes, I do. I've never had a gun pulled on me, any violence threatened, anything stolen...over 30 years in the region. Wonder why? As to your "way they treat their own family", it very much depends on the family, and that usually can be seen via how you met your wife and where. My wife's family are amazing, far less trouble and drama than my own, they help us and we help them.

And I was trying hard to avoid this but...if we're to take your avatar seriously, you're an American and a Conservative at the very least. Therefore you are likely in the "pry my gun from my cold dead hands" kinda demographic. Maybe I'm assuming too much, but it is highly likely you're big on the 2nd amendment. Just this week a kid who got lost in the neighbourhood got two bullets pumped into him after ringing a doorbell, and a woman who got lost and turned around in a driveway got shot dead by the owner. I'm not even talking about the half dozen or so mass shooting events in the last two weeks. Older white American gentlemen killing innocent people for no reason whatsoever. So take your "Well, don't come crying to us when you accidentally bump into someone and end up getting a gun pulled on you." and stick it where the sun don't shine.

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

What I am saying is: what they did was WAY over the top and in no way justifiable. 

 

They could have just called him a name back in return. No need for violence.

 

You don't seem to comprehend this. Why are you condoning and justifying thug behavior?

I live in the region in these people's country, therefore I accept their standards and norms prevail, not mine. I understand their culture and language, so I act with respect and don't deliberately say things that will anger them because I understand that "face" is extremely important to these people. If I am living as a guest in their village, then I will be much more careful, especially if I haven't bothered to make any effort to speak the language, form relationships with the locals or otherwise adapt to my new environment.

This drunken idiot who has already worn out his welcome in the village came over during a party and insulted his neighbours. They reacted the way anyone who lives here and understands the culture knew they would. Whether you or I believe the violence disproportionate is irrelevant. It was also inevitable at that point.

11 minutes ago, 2009 said:

No, I believe he said the word, "buffalo" as the news says.

 

I'll be waiting here for you to justify the 10 man beating. Go ahead.

Oh, so suddenly you are saying he DID provoke these people? I don't believe you mentioned that previously. In fact, you said

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

The evidence is he got violently assaulted by a gang.

 

It's fact. What more do you need to know?

 

Nowhere has it mentioned he threw the first punch or any punch. 

 

He was just attacked.

Really? You believe he was standing there quietly, didn't say a word, and suddenly ten locals set upon him and beat him up with sticks? Had he started studying at the local Vocational College?

1 hour ago, nigelforbes said:

You're learning well, have you considered applying for a job with government?

I figured if one of them saw my post they'd recruit me. On tenterhooks, I am.

2 hours ago, kinyara said:

Where did you get the figure of Cambodia getting 16 million tourists over Songkran ?

 

It can't possibly be foreign tourists as Cambodia only managed to attract 6.6 million in total for the whole of 2019.

https://en.vietnamplus.vn/cambodia-serves-over-13-million-tourists-during-traditional-new-year-holidays/251736.vnp

You are correct, that was including domestic tourists as well. Didn't read it carefully enough.

20 minutes ago, roietfortress said:

yea that is obviously completely different to what i am saying lol

 

an old lady will straight and directly call my wife a ho for being married to farang. its nothing to do with height. 

 

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Well, you ARE in Roi Et...and I don't and never did have a Thai wife. So yeah, it's different. Having said that, I have had confrontations with rude motorcycle taxi guys where my wife is from because I do understand what they say to her, so that's the same and it's not happening in Thailand but in a neighbouring country. It's misogyny in my opinion, and is a cultural thing in the region.

1 minute ago, roietfortress said:

my wife tells me all the time that i'm better off not knowing what people are saying about me. i feel bad that she has to hear the racist comments that comes out of old Thai ladies. they do not like farang wives, especially hiso ones lol

 

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It's a bit counter to my experience, but then again I was living differently and have never been married to a local Thai woman and lived in their village. I can say having listened to many people talk about me over the years without them knowing I speak Thai, that seldom am I denigrated just for the hell of it. However, they will focus on something that makes you different (in my case that I am considerably taller than most Thai) and make jokes about that. I can handle this so it doesn't upset me and it's usually an advantage to have height or a big schnozz or whatever else they might be joking about.

4 minutes ago, roietfortress said:

bro i'm only 50. i got here early.

 

your opinion regarding language is acceptable. you have an easier time navigating Thailand knowing the language. all good.

 

my point is you can live very well and happy in Thailand without knowing the language.

 

the number of retired farang in Thailand will more than double in the next 10 years. they should know you don't have to learn Thai to live comfortably, even up-country in the rice fields. you just need people you can trust (doesn't have to be a wife lol).

 

btw i know a dozen programming languages. they earn me a lot more than knowing Thai.

555! Sorry for prematurely aging you. And I don't dispute you can live well and happily without speaking Thai, my point only was that you'll have much less understanding about what's going on around you or about the Thai culture etc.
 

As to knowing programming, I'd worry more about AI than the Thai.

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Trust No One!

Especially not the woman in your bed, and you will never be disappointed.

No, you'll just be unhappy and paranoid. Also prone to conspiracy theory. You check out.

6 minutes ago, roietfortress said:

multi-lingual braggers is a thing with farang. congrats on learning the language. its not easy.

 

i know exactly as much as i need to know about the world around me, which has a very big wall around it and some big dogs. the dogs speak English (when i am holding treats).

 

it does help to have family and house staff around you that you trust. if i was here alone it would be a different story, but i wouldn't be here if my wife didn't want to settle here. we'd probably just live in our beach house in OBX. she didn't like it as much as Isaan.

 

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I'm not bragging so much as I am justifying my statements on why you're not gaining as much knowledge or understanding about the situation due to your lack of language. I know I'm good at languages already.

But I am happy to hear you're in a good place with people you can trust. That's not something a lot of older folk who ended up here have and it's very important. I had to look up OBX so I guess that's Coastal Carolina? It is also true in my experience that many Thai don't adapt so well to living in other countries whereas Cambodians do. But that's a different kettle of fish and discussion.

1 minute ago, roietfortress said:

as i have told my wife many times, i refuse to learn Thai because i don't want to know what my MIL is babbling on about all day ????

 

ignorance is bliss. i'll keep smiling and overpaying by a whole dollar...

 

the point about foreigners in our home country is irrelevant. nowhere is like Thailand and no situation is comparable.

 

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To each his own. But then accept that you don't have the slightest idea about what is going on around you. Why are you writing on this forum if you know squat?

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

A surprisingly ugly post from you.

There is no evidence to suggest the Finn did anything wrong at all.

Just lies from his attackers.

 

My local (village) bar wants 59bht for a large Leo.

The Finns local mom an pop shop wants 70bht = special Finn price.

You feel that there is "no evidence" yet have already judged the attacker's information as "lies"? I guess you were there?

And definitely, the difference between your village price and that of the Finnish fellow's is conclusive that this was the clear cause of the beatdown. You just can't beat ThaiVisa's Police Squad, why even bother with police when this incredible resource is available?

16 hours ago, steven100 said:

most I would have said.  yes, they are not very nice,  so if they feel insulted that gives them the right to hit you with sticks and they can use a knife if need be.

 

 

You really feel that most Thai despise foreigners? What an odd existence you have in this country. I have seldom met even mild approbation from Thai people. But then again, I speak Thai, I understand the culture so I smile at people when I meet them and wai politely when required.

You also feel that Thai people aren't very nice? Perhaps this is why you approve of them being held under foot by the military, since you feel they deserve it? This is the best explanation so far about your slavish devotion to Lil' P.

21 hours ago, w94005m said:

Actually, the air crossings are relatively unlimited whereas Lao land crossings can only be done twice in a calendar year. Either way, make sure you have $35 for the arrival fee. It was the cheapest way to pay.

 

If you're looking for a nice bar and food overlooking the Mekong, Bor Pen Yang is a good place to go with a nice elevated view.

Your first sentence is true although the arrival fee varies with nationality.

Your second sentence is not, since Bor Pen Yang is no longer open (sadly). Try Mekong Garage Bar.

I'm sure there will have been no financial incentives for this paragon of integrity to suddenly switch sides after discovering (to his shock - SHOCK!) that there were shenanigans going on in the pristine political party he joined. A genuine Thai politico with conscience. ROFLMAO! 

How is it possible that we've made it to Page 2 without lil' P's apologists rushing to the thread to offer up their full-throated defense of their man?

Must be that they finally got him! It's a clear violation, and just as serious as the ones that got the other guys in the past. This is where the real vice lies, in cooking shows, ownership of small media companies and singing and dancing. Oh, unless you are of a certain political bent (deliberate choice of words), in that case "mai bpen rai!".

14 hours ago, billd766 said:

Even you could have managed to work that out if you could have been bothered.

Eh? Work out what?