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  1. Abhisit insists he has no hidden agenda

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    The Democrat party leader criticized caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra of setting a precondition by setting the election date while it is not certain whether an election can be held peacefully.

    He asked the prime minister to rethink about the July 20 election date.

    First he demands that the PTP talk to the EC - they talk, they agree a date, and what happens, abhisit, boycotter of two elections and winner of none, criticises them for it

    You are very conveniently leaving out the conditions that the EC placed on the Jul 20th election - which mirror Abhisit's concerns

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  2. The NACC sees it as a retaliation, but what the lawyer stated was acceptable. Keep in mind that legal counsel is there to advocate on behalf of his client. He is to use the legal means necessary to advance his client's interests. In this case, the lawyer stated that he would bring a complaint necause the NACC refused to allow the the counsel to call witnesses.. It was his right and his obligation. to do his utmost on behalf of the client. It is the NACC that is attempting to intimidate and bully. It is the NACC that committed a wrong when it denied the accused the right to call additional witnesses in a serious case.

    Accusing the commission of bias - even before the outcome - is an act of pure intimidation.

    If the NACC has evidence of a crime then it should act against the perpetrators.

    The NACC has already explained that the witnesses were not involved in the the aspect of the case under review and therefore have nothing to add.

    Shame on all of you who think that intimidating the NACC, EC, CC etc. should be condoned.

    No it is not.

    Yes, the NACC should investigate if there is evidence of the crime. However, the NACC has an obligation to investigate in an unbiased and fair manner. The NACC is on a slippery slope when it acts as both accuser, investigator and adjudicator.

    I think you are confused. The accuser was not the NACC - it was the Dems.

    NACC was the investigator - as it should be

    You are wrong - the NACC is not the judge. It determines if there is enough evidence to take the case forward

    You have absolutely no idea what evidence the NACC has - but your red goggles prejudges them. You should be ashamed

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  3. The NACC sees it as a retaliation, but what the lawyer stated was acceptable. Keep in mind that legal counsel is there to advocate on behalf of his client. He is to use the legal means necessary to advance his client's interests. In this case, the lawyer stated that he would bring a complaint necause the NACC refused to allow the the counsel to call witnesses.. It was his right and his obligation. to do his utmost on behalf of the client. It is the NACC that is attempting to intimidate and bully. It is the NACC that committed a wrong when it denied the accused the right to call additional witnesses in a serious case.

    Accusing the commission of bias - even before the outcome - is an act of pure intimidation.

    If the NACC has evidence of a crime then it should act against the perpetrators.

    The NACC has already explained that the witnesses were not involved in the the aspect of the case under review and therefore have nothing to add.

    Shame on all of you who think that intimidating the NACC, EC, CC etc. should be condoned.

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  4. It should be already clear that intimidation of the judicial process is completely unacceptable. The open season approach by the Yingluck administration, CAPO, Pheu Thai, and the UDD is completely off the charts. At best it is an unseemly display and at worst it interferes with the process. People who condone it haven't the slightest conception of what is acceptable in their own countries.

    You're very tight.

    I'm very surprised that these hooligans haven't been prosecuted for their acts. Too soft.

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  5. Elections are a positive thing. He's trying to block them (ok, delay them for an indefinite period), which is a negative thing.

    I don't get your pants down reference, it's just wishful thinking, he's a bit dozy to me. Most likely a lawyer has been examining the EC's plans and he's been advised to buy some time to keep his MPs in the Democrat party.

    If he was running for elections, he'd be planning his campaign now, and selecting his candidates for each seat, not stalling.

    You don't begin an election campaign with a "well perhaps I won't be running unless you agree to these secret conditions I won't say".

    Say we're looking at early June registrations for July elections, MP's need to resign from the Democrat party and jump ship to one of the other yellow opposition parties NOW, to qualify under the 30 day limit. Do not let this idiot drag you down Yellow MPs.

    Get into other party lists, and win those easy seats in the south and represent your constiuents. You can see Abhisit is finished and he's admitting it here, there will be no new Democrat leader because he will not resign quickly enough to permit one, so you will be doomed if you stay in the Democrat party.

    Abhisit's plans are probably not for wider consumption for a number of good reasons. One of them may be that in line with him exiting the leadership that the Shinawatra clan follow suit.

    However if you view this a subterfuge then that's really your call

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    She's standing, she's already planning her election campaign, potential candidates are already polishing their CVs, and the red protest rallys are already more like "get out the vote and win those elections" rallies.

    Him, he's not standing. Whether his party stands or not? Well Suthep has set his latest "final" march for 14th May. So Abhisit will probably be stalling till 20th May (he spends about a week to make any decision). Then announce his party won't be standing at elections.

    Do you think it's like lemmings? That somehow he will throw himself off a cliff and she will follow? Why?

    Polishing their CVs?

    Is that a euphemism for removing the criminal charges?

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    Is polishing their CV a euphemism for removing the criminal charges? Well yesterday the NACC (the National Anti Corruption Council) defined 'elections' as 'corruption', indicting Senators for voting to make the Senate fully elected. And those Senators have that corruption indictment on their CV.

    So if you see a Senator with an indictment from the national anti corruption council on his CV, its likely his crime was voting!

    Are you aware of the term "conflict of interest"?

    Additionally, in this case, the legislation they were seeking to pass was illegal. The way they sought to do it was illegal, and the manner in which they voted was illegal

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  6. Note -

    - Yingluk is not up on any Criminal Charges. lets all be clear of this. This is simply an issue of whether or not she did her job properly. No criminal charges.

    - She is charged with failure to take action when told that there MAY be mismanagment of the Rice Scheme.

    - She is charged with improper firing of an employee.

    - The PDRC folks stands in the streets in honor of a man that is up on Insurrection charges.

    - The Dem's Leader is up on Murder Charges.

    I suppose you get the point.

    the de facto leader of the government is a convicted criminal on the run

    I suppose YOU get the point

    The defacto leader lives in Bangkok not Dubai. If Thaksin was so powerful why is he 'on the run' as you put it?

    Who is this mysterious Bangkokian?

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  7. Note -

    - Yingluk is not up on any Criminal Charges. lets all be clear of this. This is simply an issue of whether or not she did her job properly. No criminal charges.

    - She is charged with failure to take action when told that there MAY be mismanagment of the Rice Scheme.

    - She is charged with improper firing of an employee.

    - The PDRC folks stands in the streets in honor of a man that is up on Insurrection charges.

    - The Dem's Leader is up on Murder Charges.

    I suppose you get the point.

    NO, what's your point?

    Are you suggesting that because other people are on charges then yingluck should just not be investigated?

    What's your point?

    I didn't say she should not be investigated.

    I was simply pointing out the difference between non criminal and criminal charges.

    You don't think that Yingluck is also charged with murder and that these offences, if proven, are criminal?

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  8. In response to Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva’s request, Mr. Supachai said the EC would be willing to engage in talks with Mr. Abhisit, expressing hope that the Opposition party would take part in the next general election.

    A very interesting statement.

    Firstly, Mr. Supachai makes no mention of reform having to take place before the next election yet expresses the hope that the dems would take part in it. Mr Supachai is well aware that abhisit will not contest the election unless it's "free and fair". Therefore the EC position must be that the election will be free and fair without the need for reform.

    Secondly, abhisit is stuffed. If he contests the election as envisaged by the EC i.e without reform his excuse for the past 6 months of mayhem is rubbished. If he doesn't contest the election his argument about free and fair elections is also rubbished because the EC by holding the election is declaring the election free and fair.

    Of course the above is conditional upon what that nabob of negativity, EC election "organiser" somchai gets up to between now and the election.

    Gosh you're reading a lot into a very short paragraph from a newspaper.

    That's just a small notch up from tealeaves

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  9. Suthep has achieved more good in 6 months that this administration has in 3 lousy years.

    Sure, he has a chequered past, sure he has some whacky ideas and for sure he will never be PM but when corruption came to a head so do Suthep.

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  10. I believe you could marry him but you would need to get him out if Dubai first

    Another malicious and idiotic comment.

    In case you did not know; Oak is a heterosexual, I am a male and not interested in marrying another male. Same sex marriage is illegal in Thailand. In any case, I would expect his long time girlfriend might object to Oak getting married while he was seeing her.

    BTW, he doesn't have to "get out" of Dubai as he is often in Asia and the EU for business.

    I've never understood why one human being could possibly fawn so much over another, especially one so tainted, unless there was some degree of amour involved.

    It is a question of right and wrong. Multiple false statements have been made. It is wrong to lie. It is malicious to repeat such falsehoods.

    You seem to have some issues in respect to sexuality with your constant reference to some sort of same sex attraction. It is juvenile. I don't know why some people have this need to try and slap gay slurs into threads. If you are insecure, so be it, that is your cross to bear. He's been attacked and insulted by some political factions and their media outlets in Thailand. They didn't think a soft spoken guy who buys flowers for his girlfriend on their anniversary would stand up to the bullies. Well, he did. He has a right to speak out.

    There's nothing in the least homophobic about my statements. Had you been all gooey eyed over Yingluck then my words would have been the same.

    I have no idols and if I did they would not be flawed.

    I do gave a number of people that I admire - complete strangers from sport and music as well as people, friends and colleagues that I have met in life.

    Therefore I find it hard to understand why somebody can see no evil in those in which evil exists and I find it harder still to comprehend the worship of them as well as their kin.

    I find it easier to respect people like Nattawut and Jatuporn for sticking to their beliefs over the amnesty bill for example than I could ever do for someone as conniving as Thaksin

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