Trujillo

"Dont get excited, today Tuesday reported 27 cases."

27 positive tests out of a population of 1,779,254 (2019 figure). Don't worry, I'm not getting excited....

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-- When wearing a mask fogs up your glasses; what exactly do you think is happening? 

"The honorary chairperson of Prachuap Khiri Khan Chamber of Commerce ..."

What does the actual chairperson say? 

On a tangent, I checked with the Bangkok Airways office in Chiang Mai yesterday and they said that Samui has the 14-day island quarantine in effect but if you want to go over to Koh Phangan or Koh Tao, you MUST have been vaccinated -- either two doses of the Chinese medicine or one of any other. 

So I guess the "passport" theory has become reality here. 

My opinion is this mindset will keep Thailand broken for a very long time; maybe this is the new normal, ie, forget about tourism ever again. 

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^{-- When wearing a mask fogs up your glasses; what exactly do you think is happening?} 

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  6 hours ago, hioctane said:

Vaccines don't prevent infection

yes it does

 

No. Nothing can prevent a virus from entering your system; it's what happens after that, that matters. Ideally, when vaccination takes hold, after a virus enters your system (at which point you are infected), your body knows how to deal with it, and dispatches it so that there is not enough viral load to pass on, and you do not become ill. 
Unfortunately, for this current situation, this is not what's happening, at least in some cases. If vaccines prevented infection in the way I gather you assume they work, we would not see any "breakthrough" cases, yet we see them now. Look at the data out of Israel as a starting point in your research. 

As for antigen tests, a local, large chain pharmacy here has a sign (in Thai only) that says they will not sell antigen test kits. I asked why and the answer was: "The manager doesn't want sick people coming into the store," ... yet they sell ivermectin.... go figure. 

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In what has been the most vaccinated part of Thailand this is worrying.

 

https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/1434690566181163010

 

The question is: how many of these people are sick and how many are really needing hospitalization (as we have understood the need for that for decades)? 

If you hospitalize or put everyone who tests positive, regardless of being symptomatic or not, in field hospitals, of course you will fill up your available space. 

Open your thinking and imagine if we did this in the past -- test everyone for seasonal influenza infection and hospitalize all who tested positive? How would that look? 

How about we put people who run red lights in a mental rehabilitation facility for 14 days?  That would certainly reduce fatalities over time, no? 

"Hundreds of medical conditions are treated with a combination of drugs."

I think there might be a difference, say, between taking Advil and aspirin for pain relief versus taking various injected vaccines, but what do I know? 

...and yes, I said, this was one individual. 

Isn't there some controversy now in the USA about whether boosters should be advised? 

I do think this line is interesting, from MSN News: Biden's controversial Covid-19 vaccine booster plan: (bold added)

"...some experts say booster shots are unlikely to alter the trajectory of the pandemic much — and that the doses would be much better spent getting people around the world immunized with first and second shots."

 I tend to agree with this, particularly when we are talking about inoculating young people ahead of elderly folks who are actually at some increased/meaningful risk. 

"Why does your Thai 'friend' not want to be vaccinated? Any specific reasons?"

I didn't ask. But I can. 

The fact is, for whatever reason, she doesn't want to have it, and I believe that forcing a worker to take a drug against his or her wishing must be illegal. 

Am I wrong? 

By the way, what's with the single quotes around the word friend? It's not me, if that's what you are alluding to. And yes, as shocking as it might seem, Trujillo actually has a friend (who is not imaginary). 

"Please stop writing stupid things."

They are the exception. Everyone is wearing a mask, or two, now. Odd that, considering the positive test rate remains in the 20,000 range. Hard to figure that out, right? 

Via Axios (Bold added):

Preprint study found:

* Overall, it found that the Moderna vaccine was 86% effective against infection over the study period, and Pfizer's was 76%. Moderna's vaccine was 92% effective against hospitalization and Pfizer's was 85%.

* But the vaccines' effectiveness against infection dropped sharply in July, when the Delta variant's prevalence in Minnesota had risen to over 70%.

* Moderna was 76% effective against infection, and Pfizer was only 42% effective.

* The study found similar results in other states. For example, in Florida, the risk of infection in July for people fully vaccinated with Moderna was about 60% lower than for people fully vaccinated with Pfizer.

Coronavirus-vaccines-pfizer-moderna-delta-biden

Comparison of two highly-effective mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 during periods of Alpha and Delta variant prevalence

Why is it Thailand seems to get the weakest vaccines available?

I would like to know if the appointment is transferable with the caveat that I keep my place in line for any future, different gene therapy that comes later. 

If yes, and my appointment is tomorrow, I'd be willing to allow someone who is actually at high risk to get my allotment, if we agree the details. 

"An absolute exercise fanatic,  hopping around all the time."

Most rabbits spend most of their time doing exactly the opposite of that. 

Update: The people on that flight were all notified later and were tested. 

"All travellers entering Chiang Mai from the 10 Dark-Red Provinces must undergo COVID swab test on arrival...."

I know for a fact that at least one plane landing yesterday from Bangkok did not require any passengers to test upon entering Chiang Mai. 

Why the taxi and not the truck? 

There is no big mystery here. 

Most of the <deleted> is from fishing boats. I lived on Samui many years and it was well known that this was the issue. 

Given the level of governmental shenanigans and the highly suspect acumen of the academic world here, how much do you trust this "new" information? 

Is this "study" peer reviewed and published in a recognized journal?

Do your own dogs usually howl and bark all night, irrespective of any other dogs?