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Thorgal

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  1. A lot of "if's" in your post. Please provide some facts from what you've posted. How many Israeli's have been killed since 7th of October by Gaza rocket fire? You've claimed that : "Israel just continued daily life with rockets killing them on a daily basis"...
  2. So, You tell your neighbors that you will stab them...for whatever reason... To avoid this you tell them that they should move away. If they didn't move away you think that you have the right to stab them to death. If they survive or resist you will justify your intentions and deeds that you've warned them in time... All this by the only democracy in the ME and the most moral army in the world...LOL
  3. "Defensive" ? I've agreed with many others if you eliminate any criminal civil threats on the spot in Israel or if you chase the intruders back into Gaza. The "offensive" response is out of proportion and also criminal and has been disqualified or rejected multiple times here on AN. IDF has no "offensive" capabilities to start a total war in the region. Everybody is aware of this. IAF started to bomb Lebanon and Syria just after the 7th of October attacks as a panic maneuver. Israel even started to almost menace Russia to hit them later (recorded on RT). This kind of tragic and provocative language and actions of Israel lately are only possible if you get some military backup of US and UK by sending their aircraft carriers. This conflict could have been ended by a hostage swap without mass bombing. This 7th of October conflict has been falsely sold as a total war from Hamas and Gaza franchise to recapture FULL Israeli territory with only +/- 3.000 militants.
  4. Politically : Based on bilateral agreements between Israel and Egypt : see Philadelphi Accord : see wiki link under "Israeli disengagement" Based on bilateral agreements between Israel and Palestinian Authority : see AMA : Agreement on Movement and Access : see wiki link under "Agreement on Movement and Access". Quote from source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_Border_Crossing In October 2023 with the start of the 2023 Israel–Hamas war, the crossing was again effectively sealed. For several weeks the Egyptian government refused to allow either Gazans or foreign nationals to exit Gaza via the Rafah crossing,[49][50] despite intensive international efforts to secure a window of time for the Rafah crossing to open to foreigners who want to exit the Strip.[51][52][53] Egypt also stated that Israeli airstrikes hit the Gaza side of the crossing.[50] 21 October, the border opened for humanitarian aid to enter Gaza.[54] On 1 November, a limited number of foreign nationals and wounded began being allowed to use the crossing to exit Gaza.[55] Historically : Dates back from Ramses III...
  5. Quote from source : from wiki : Misinformation in the 2023 Israel-Hamas war... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinformation_in_the_2023_Israel–Hamas_war In a speech to the Republican Jewish Coalition on 28 October, Eli Beer, founder of an Israeli EMS organization, claimed that Hamas had burned a baby alive in an oven. The claim was repeated by journalist Dovid Efune, John Podhoretz and others, in tweets seen over 10 million times. Israeli journalists found no evidence for the claim, and a representative of ZAKA, a first responder organization, said the claim was "false". French newspaper Libération said the claim was likely "entirely fictitious". Conclusion : debunked (again)
  6. Why do you bring back the WW2, SS, Nazi analogy back into this topic ? Moderator deleted your previous attempts already and now you bring this back... https://aseannow.com/topic/1312538-israel-is-at-war-general-discussion-pt2/?do=findComment&comment=18526291 https://aseannow.com/topic/1312538-israel-is-at-war-general-discussion-pt2/?do=findComment&comment=18526454
  7. Can you provide credible links of your claim of that Israeli baby victim as per forum rules?
  8. More double standards. Israeli soldiers send message to their PM that they will re-take Gaza and settle by getting all Palestinians out is not political hate speech of the main ultra right coalition in Israel. On the other side : different Hamas charters can be cumulated as per required Israeli narrative that Hamas wants to eliminate all Jews from the River to the Sea...
  9. The old charter, yes. The updated one from 2017, not. This was discussed, but again refuted by you because it's against the Israeli narrative...
  10. Apparently not the same for "The River to the Sea" songs during protests worldwide...
  11. There was an attack plan and Israel knew it at least 1 year in advance. Again, you refute the official narrative if it's against Israeli interests. Nothing new over here... https://www.cbsnews.com/video/israel-knew-hamas-attack-plan-more-than-year-ago-nyt/ Quote from link : "Israeli officials learned of Hamas' plan for the Oct. 7 terror attack more than a year before it happened, according to a New York Times report Thursday. Bilal Saab, senior fellow at the Middle East Institute, joins CBS News to discuss what the revelation could mean for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government."
  12. There was an attack plan and Israel knew it at least 1 year in advance. Again, you refute the official narrative if it's against Israeli interests. Nothing new over here... https://www.cbsnews.com/video/israel-knew-hamas-attack-plan-more-than-year-ago-nyt/ Quote from link : "Israeli officials learned of Hamas' plan for the Oct. 7 terror attack more than a year before it happened, according to a New York Times report Thursday. Bilal Saab, senior fellow at the Middle East Institute, joins CBS News to discuss what the revelation could mean for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government."
  13. Even BarraMarra started to use AJ...that means a lot. LOL
  14. I like it that you've posted a Al Jazeera link. That's a clear statement.
  15. Can you provide any of my post or snippet that I've been cheering for Hamas ? Thanks...
  16. My side? I'm not a Palestinian...? The poster I've replied is a Hawaiian national of 84 years and I've checked if he's looking at both sides of the conflict objectively. I didn't try to curb his opinion.
  17. All quiet on the Gaza front... Quote from link : https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-army-to-imprison-soldiers-deserting-from-regular-military-service-reserves/3063948 The Israeli army intended to imprison soldiers who had deserted from regular military service and reserves following the end of the war that Tel Aviv launched in the Gaza Strip on Oct. 7. The Military Defense Department released a statement, which was cited on the radio, telling soldiers who refused to serve to "contact your units urgently before the harsher punishment policy comes into effect." Many soldiers refused to participate in the war “for reasons of conscience.” However, observers link their desertion to the ongoing war in the Gaza Strip, which claimed the lives of dozens of soldiers, particularly in the ground battles that began on Oct. 27.
  18. 1. AJ+ is mostly OK for me as news outlet. 2. Fine for me if you don't know the answer to my question as expected. Thanks, anyway.
  19. I asked : did Israeli army also commit "horrific acts" since 7th of October 2023? No need to hide behind Hamas.
  20. Agreed with most of your comments, but did Israeli army also commit "horrific acts" since 7th of October 2023?
  21. "hence it is responsible" = Common Morch, no short cuts. You can do better.
  22. No problem for me if you refute the official Israeli narrative after police investigation. You've quoted this as : "More lame deflections and fabrications."
  23. More lame deflections and fabrications #2 : Your post : The notion that Hamas is only responsible for the direct actions of it's own men is nonsense as well. As the de-facto governing body in the Gaza Strip, it's on Hamas anyway. Your claim that the ones who killed Thai workers were not Hamas is something you claim - not fact. "You seem to know the exact workings of the Hamas plans, and in detail....interesting." Quote from my source : "Al-Qassam and Saraya Al-Quds conclude the handover of the 5th batch of hostages." https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231129-al-qassam-and-saraya-al-quds-conclude-the-handover-of-the-5th-batch-of-hostages/ Conclusion : Israeli and Asian hostages held by Al-Qassam (Hamas military wing) and Saraya Al-Quds (non Hamas military wing) were released recently. This is another proof that most or all Asian hostages were held captive as hostages by Al-Qassam and/or Saraya Al-Quds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izz_ad-Din_al-Qassam_Brigades https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Quds_Brigades https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Islamic_Jihad Other Gaza brigades like Islamic Jihad might also have Israeli and/or Asian hostages, but they don't work together under official elected Hamas. 1. Who attacked the factory or place with all these Asian workers is logically the military wing that took them as hostages. Not all Gaza brigades attacked the same places. 2. Hamas and all other Gaza brigades do not always work together. 3. Many non-military Gazans participated in the looting and extra judicial crimes without any control or supervision
  24. More lame deflections and fabrications #1 : Quote from post : "There is practically no chance Hamas was not aware of the existence of the rave. It was no secret, and right on their doorstep. Considering the number of Hamas present during the attack on the party, claiming it was 'by chance' is a joke." "You seem to know the exact workings of the Hamas plans, and in detail....interesting." Quote from my source : According to reports published on 17 November, the police concluded based on interrogations and their own investigations that Hamas did not know about the festival beforehand but came across it by accident and decided to attack it. Israeli security authorities suggested that Hamas likely lacked advance knowledge of the Nova Festival. Senior officials estimated that Hamas may have become aware of the event through drones or individuals parachuting, and subsequently directed terrorists to the location using their communication system.[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re'im_music_festival_massacre#:~:text=Israeli security authorities suggested that,location using their communication system. Conclusion :
  25. Do we have to use this tool here on AN or are we free to judge the bias or not ourselves ?
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