Almera

substantiation

Now this is a teacher.

555.

I think I've already explained the situation. There is no law that overrides the Act that states that those here for the benefit of education (which is obviously any teacher here) are exempt from needing a Work Permit. But the Thai officials and ministries don't know/care/follow it, and demand them anyway.

Ijustwannateach, on 24 Mar 2013 - 20:22, said:

Almera, not everything is written into law with its details of precedent as clearly as everyone would like. But I know I'm correct in my description. You have every right to disagree, but you will be wrong. Your mileage may vary.

Oh sure, I've no doubt ministries and officials are demanding teachers need them, that doesn't make the law wrong, it just means that they are ignoring/not following it.

As the law states, they do not need them. This is obviously ignored by the Thais.

If you want to discuss a point, feel free to do so. If you want to argue, you run the risk of getting suspended.

Great.

I'm looking forward to Ijustwannateach backing up his statement/answering them.

This has been discussed before. If you read the item referenced carefully, you will find the following:

Section 4, Part 6:

'(6) as a person who performs duties or mission for the benefit of

education, culture, dft, sports or other activities as may be prescribed by the Royal

Decree;'

This is NOT referring to a common garden-variety working teacher.

Where does the act state that?

I presume that officials and ministries demand teachers need them, but where is it stated? in the act it clearly says that they are exempt if they 'are performing duties for the benefit of education'. A garden-variety working teacher is clearly doing that, in a legal and official sense.

@oompie69 and @Almera, I'm getting curious why you both are disputing the fact that foreign teachers need a work permit. Care to share?

I just read the act as posted in the OP and it clearly states they don't.

Interesting.

But then, Thailand is always interesting.

Are you currently a teacher in Thailand, Almera or do you want to be one?

No and no, what's with the focus on the poster rather than the points? Actually don't bother answering. Never mind.

@oompie69 and @Almera, I'm getting curious why you both are disputing the fact that foreign teachers need a work permit. Care to share?

I just read the act as posted in the OP and it clearly states they don't.

Interesting.

But then, Thailand is always interesting.

Edit:

Why are you posting false statements such as Post 7? I'm curious.

This has been discussed before. If you read the item referenced carefully, you will find the following:

Section 4, Part 6:

'(6) as a person who performs duties or mission for the benefit of

education, culture, dft, sports or other activities as may be prescribed by the Royal

Decree;'

This is NOT referring to a common garden-variety working teacher.

Where does the act state that?

I presume that officials and ministries demand teachers need them, but where is it stated? in the act it clearly says that they are exempt if they 'are performing duties for the benefit of education'. A garden-variety working teacher is clearly doing that, in a legal and official sense.

You could have a point about money laundering. But on this scale, it would need to have support up to government level.

Now that would be surprising.

What minister had black bin bags full of millions of baht in his house again? Transport minister wasn't it.

Does anyone actually move to Thailand with only the wing and a prayer of the basic UK state pension to rely upon?

I think they did when it was about 72b to the pound around 6 years ago.

Not looking like such a good move 6 years later I bet.

Throwing in the towel here is only a decent option to consider if you have Thai assets to convert into your home currency or, you are still able to earn income in your home country. For retirees and pensioners such a towel throwing exersise may not even be possible, especially where inflation back home is a major factor. I reckon there will be a real serious crunch time comming for many British pensioners, the idea of leaving LOS and returning "home" may not even be possible.

Oh..come on...

There is plenty of towns around thailand where you can live comfortably on a british pension...

Just get out of the overpriced places....and cut down on your bar bills....hit the beach with a couple of friends...a few Changs...heaven for peanuts...

And peanuts is an apt choice of word because that's about all a pensioner would have to eat, with the state pension at £105 per week that means THB 4,672 per week for everything!

But, but, they can eat Noo Yang for 30b a plate at a delicious roadstall.

Section 4 (Sub-paragraph 6 ) stipulates that an Alien (Non-Thai

National ) engaged in the Education field is exempt from the requirement

of having to get a Work Permit to work legally in Thailand.

Anyone know if this law has been amended in any way since then or are there other laws that override this Executive decision ?

Any information would be appreciated

Not applicable to the occupation of teacher in formal, in-formal or non-formal educational institutions in Thailand.

Under which law?

Source please.

Working of Alien Act BE 2551 (AD 2008), Part 2, Section 9 until Section 28.

Incorrect.

There is nothing in there that backs up your statement.

(Link to Working of Alien Act BE 2551 (AD 2008) is in the OP)

Section 4 (Sub-paragraph 6 ) stipulates that an Alien (Non-Thai

National ) engaged in the Education field is exempt from the requirement

of having to get a Work Permit to work legally in Thailand.

Anyone know if this law has been amended in any way since then or are there other laws that override this Executive decision ?

Any information would be appreciated

Not applicable to the occupation of teacher in formal, in-formal or non-formal educational institutions in Thailand.

Under which law?

Source please.

^ You don't ask your child to stop.

You tell them to.

I have to say after repeating step 1-11 several thousand times

It took several thousand times of asking your child not to do something and you still didn't realize that you didn't know what you were doing?

I find that 98% of them are.

I've no doubt that you do.

I've also no doubt that you are (or are possibly) an advantage to 98% of them.

Thinking that Thais were mostly happy, decent people.

Section 4 (Sub-paragraph 6 ) stipulates that an Alien (Non-Thai National ) engaged in the Education field is exempt from the requirement

of having to get a Work Permit to work legally in Thailand.

Anyone know if this law has been amended in any way since then

No it hasn't.

or are there other laws that override this Executive decision ?

No there isn't.

The law is quite clearly laid out.

Though the Thai officials don't want to abide by it, so don't.

Hope that helps.

^ Discipline doesn't equate to beating.

No beating doesn't equate to no discipline.

I have a Galaxy Tab 8.9 inch.

The internet in my house is via a LAN cable.

My PC isn't set up to host a wireless network so I would have to buy a wireless modem to connect the Tab.

Unless one can get an adapter set up like this:

And the Galaxy Tab can connect that way?

Anybody know if it's possible??

Perhaps you can sell the remaining 8 in order to recoup the 16b overspend.

10b each?

Best to obscure it with the top of a cowgirl's head.

A much better vista.

When they cancel the work permit and Visa. You now only have 24hours to get a new visa.

Some places will be nice enough to leave the visa etc until expiration. But I doubt these guys will.

You can get a 7 day extension at the immigration office, for 1,900b.

The police have better things to do than deal with people who provoke bouncers.

Perhaps by policing the bouncers to ensure that they can handle idiotic provocation.

Well, as long as there's somebody to look down on.

What a culture, country and society....

And to think, we only know a fraction of the reality!

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What hypocrisy - the corruption at the heart of our own societies back home is IMO much more insidious, at least here average people can benefit from it sometimes.

Oh yes, the people benefit from police officers buying their entrance exam results...

Teachers buying their entrance exam results...

Teachers refusing to teach what they should unless the students pay for their extra evening/weekend classes etc.

etc.

etc.

etc.

All highly beneficial to the people.