11 hours ago, welshguy said:

Same for me, my flight for 2 weeks ago was cancelled........they said I will hear back from them in 6 months!   As they are "busy"!

Used to fly Thai twice a year, good flight times for me from U.K.        

 

Wont use them again!

The only "busy" they can be is with fielding complaints from clients who did not get the product they paid for. What else can they be "busy" with. 

It's not only here, all over the world refunds are being met with either no response or vague processes and promises. Bottom line is that money received for flights has already been used to fund rentals, salaries etc.

At this stage, it's not about whether any vaccine works. It's more about getting governments to believe that a particular vaccine works. And I suspect that the WHO will play a central in choosing the "magic bullet", so to speak..

The policy of a negative test within 72 hours of flight and 14- 21 day quarantine is not the answer to getting travel going again. 

9 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I think it is all new to the work permit office since normally a WP3 is not required to get a non-b visa based upon teaching since a work permit is not required to apply for it. It is a requirement to get a certificate of entry.

Maybe the school could explain the situation to work permit office and inform them the waiver will be applied for as soon as you are here on a non-b visa and the request for the work permit will not be done until then.

Thanks, again. Will send your thoughts to school and see what action they want to take.

On 9/21/2020 at 12:31 AM, ubonjoe said:

That is only required for engineers, doctors and etc that have to have a license to do their work. It is not the same as a teachers license or waiver.

 

Hi Unbonjoe!

The school reports back that the license they are referring to is registration as a teacher in your home country.

This must be new then? I am sure there are many here that are teaching on waivers without being certified teachers in their home country.

Any thoughts or suggestions because seems that I am in a catch 22 situation then? 

So, post and parcels now need to spend time in quarantine in destination country.? One would think it would be more time and cost effective to spray sanitize the goods. 

Having "culled" so many in the first round, this upcoming flu season will in all likelihood not see a repeat of the past one. That is about all that will prevent a repeat. Government intervention will achieve nothing as was the case this year. 

8 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

That is only required for engineers, doctors and etc that have to have a license to do their work. It is not the same as a teachers license or waiver.

 

Thanks Ubonjoe. Yes, it is a new admin lady doing this. My previous Non-B went off without a hitch and I cannot recollect even applying for the teaching licence waiver. The school must have done it on my behalf.

Work Permit was done, also with no problems.

I have asked the school to let me know exactly what they were told. Hoping somewhere things got lost in translation.

Once again, thanks for your input. 

23 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I don't agree. It could be that the person that school is talking to is not familiar with what is required for a WP3 application since they had never processed one before.

Hi ubonjoe.

The school advises regarding item 5 on the list" A copy of occupation or profession license, in case which is prescribed by the related law" is what they are referring to. And this would have to be issued by Krusapa who seem to not be prepared to do so for teachers not yet in Thailand?

What law they are referring to I do not know, but what puzzles me is that the MOE has approved my application, which my school is collecting from them today, without asking for anything mentioned in Point 5.

And even if I were certified outside of Thailand, which I am not as my own country's education system is so dysfunctional that my application for certification from them has after, 2 years,and repeated attempts, not even been met with an acknowledgement of my application, this would not hold any water in Thailand.

This is what is on the actual application form:

3.3 Copy of license for professional practice, in case the license for the work applied is required by Law.

14 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

5. The virus has already swept through Thailand in Nov / Dec / Jan.

 

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I suspect that spike in reported cases of Viral pneumonia in late 2019 / early 2020 was actually Covid-19 which had already swept through Thailand before lockdown. 

As with the H1N1 pandemic in 2009, nothing was really done at the time, increase cases and deaths spread across 1300 hospitals in Thailand never really made headlines.

Covid-19 became a massive issue for Thailand once Europe panicked. 

 

Thus: I suspect Thailand will encounter more cases when there are more test, but I suspect the vast majority of the population has some form of pre-existing immunity or has developed immunity from recent exposure prior to lockdown. 

 

 

As good an argument as any.

With so many Chinese entering Thailand each month there was bound to have been carriers transporting the virus here. And with such a high percentage of asymptomatics, might be difficult to ever prove but reasonable to suspect. By the time the borders were closed, it was too late to stop it from entering. 

5 hours ago, dunroaming said:

The lockdown most noticeable is the one on sharing information with the public.  Gone are the daily briefings and when pushed government spokes people like Hancock just duck and dive the difficult questions.  They are floundering or they are deceiving the public.  Promising that the answers are coming but actually they never do.

 

I know they are politicians so never play a straight bat, but surely now is the time to be honest with people, even if it is to just say that they are clueless how to deal with this pandemic.  

That would be them stating the obvious, wouldn't it?????

14 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

The instruction for the WP3 form required documents does not show a teachers license for it.

See: https://www.doe.go.th/prd/assets/upload/files/alien_en/df172270ff13dbee9ce60cc34f9b698d.pdf

It appears the local office where the school requested the WP3 is wrong and I don't recall it being asked for before.

Thanks a lot ubonjoe. I will send this to them.

Hi all!

Busy going through the process of obtaining all the supporting documents in order to apply for the above visa in my home country.

When my school admin went to the Ministry of Labour to apply for the WP3 letter they were informed that the application must be supported by a Permanent or Temporary Teachers License. I was on my 1st waiver with the same school, but this expired while I was outside of Thailand.

The school e-mailed to say that Krusapa  are refusing to issue a Temporary Teaching License as I am not in Thailand. I cannot find anything on their website in this respect.

Anybody else had this happen to them or suggestions about how to get over this final hurdle?

I do not have teacher certification in my home country.

Comments and/or advice much appreciated.

Population in these two countries together about 12000000. Iran population 83000000. Highly questionable whether this will change anything in the Middle East.  

No Cheap Charlie forum on Thaivisa? Now might be the time.  

7 hours ago, Poet said:

Yeah, I guess some people prefer just watching the video ????

BTW, I really hate how the EU have effectively broken the Internet by forcing the GDPR on nations over which they should have no juristiction.

Not only have a bunch of useful websites simply decided to block all traffic from outside the US, but we now all have to keep clicking those bloody permission boxes for cookies.

Has anyone ever actually read the details or refused permission? I'm pretty sure everyone just instally presses Okay. In twenty years, millions of people will have RSI thanks to that stupid law.

"BTW, I really hate how the EU have effectively broken the Internet by forcing the GDPR on nations over which they should have no juristiction."

Not sure exactly how the internet works, but I am under the impression that the USA owns the internet. so, if anybody can control what sites can be viewed it might be them. I am sure there are others on thism forum who will know more.

7 hours ago, kotsak said:

They can go ahead with the plan but they may want to kiss the south goodbye first. ????

Could be a crafty way of sorting that problem out without losing face.

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Maybe more and more evidence that Vitamin D may help combating Covid - but far more evidence that obesity, smoking and laziness doesn't

Yep! Just need to check the mortality rates regarding deaths with co-morbidities.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I do.

Fauci is being sidelined by 45 but he still does many media interviews. 

He has certainly not been promoting vitamin d.

 

BTW I've been taking it myself now for several months but given I'm in Thailand where there is supposedly no virus I guess that means I've got special urine. 

Given the amount of sunshine in Thailand as opposed to a number of countries where winters can be long and cloudy, a shortage of outside time will lead to vitamin D deficiencies in populations, hence requiring supplemented vitamin D.

Thanks for the post.

Education is not only about learning but also, and perhaps more importantly, about helping learners to develop the skills required from them to be able to function as normal, well-adjusted individuals in the real word. Numerous books have been written on the topic of Human Social Development and this is where online learning falls short. Young learners need social interaction with their peers and teachers to develop real life skills. This they are not going to get via online learning. 

55 minutes ago, Blumpie said:

Holy moly, there are some sane people here!

 

"The crisis of ’97-99 followed several years of rapid economic growth, capital inflows and build up of debt, which led to an unbalanced economy. In the years preceding the crisis, government borrowing rose, and firms overstretched themselves in a ‘dash for growth.’ When market sentiment changed foreign investors sought to reduce their stake in these Asian economies causing destabilising capital outflows, which caused rapid devaluation and further loss of confidence".

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/glossary/financial-crisis-asia-1997/#:~:text=On 2 July 1997%2C due,get out of Asian currencies.

Don't know whether the problem can really be called an "internal "crisis. 

9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

You should be allowed to consume anything you like.

Even rat poison.

 

All medications should be freely available without a 'doctor tax'.

If they make it, you should be allowed to buy it.

 

The war on drugs is not only pointless but extremely dangerous.

It creates hugely wealthy criminal gangs with the power to topple governments.

Regarding your last sentence, that's what it is all about. 

Somebody once told me that Economics is "the art of managing scarcity". So, making sure that demand always outstrips supply ensures that those that control the availability of a product get richer and richer.  The presence of wealthy criminal gangs is  largely due to the fact that governments aid and abet them in ensuring scarcity. 

Millions and millions of dollars are expended yearly in the USA alone on curbing the supply inside the USA and countless more on prosecuting and incarcerating offenders. This money would be far better spent on uplifting the socio-economic conditions of the main target market of the drug traders.

And isn't the criminal justice system in the USA already overloaded enough without petty cases filling up court rosters. Decriminalisation of drugs will go a long way to easing this, as I am sure, would be the case on other countries, as well.