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The process for withdrawing from the EU...

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/504216/The_process_for_withdrawing_from_the_EU_print_ready.pdf

Scaring reading, especially...

2.7 Regular EU decision-making would continue while we negotiated to leave. Our vote to leave, and the withdrawal negotiations themselves, would have an impact on our ability to affect the EU’s decision-making. But we would be bound by new EU legislation up to the moment we left.

Brexit - Truth Squadding the arguments...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-19/fact-fiction-and-brexit-truth-squadding-the-arguments

Don't do it CM it will get better, a few less leo's don't panic!!

This is brilliant

the requirement for retirees to have 800,000 baht in the bank is a step too far for some.

800,000 Baht in the bank is 800,000 Baht in the bank. Regardless of where the £ goes.

But 65,000 income requirement goes up from £1,300 per month at 50:1 THB:GBP to £1,625 per month at 40:1 (if the muted 20% drop happens).

CM did miss one demographic though, those working overseas will get more GBP when shipping money back & we'll all have cheaper trips back.

Though this applies to me, I'm still in the Remain camp but will be shipping a bucket load of cash back if the pound does plummet.

JB.

I did not dispute this, I never even mentioned it.

My post pertained to 800.000 Baht sitting in a Thai bank. Which will not change regardless of where the £ goes, exchange rate fluctuations or anything else.

I will be more than ecstatic to see a rate of £1 = US $ 1 even though I can appreciate that it will be bad for some others.

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you did, was just highlighting that some guys might find that they can't meet the retirement extension requirements if sterling does plummet as the UK Embassy is one of the few that insist on proof of income (I believe the US just takes their citizens word for it).

£1 = SGD $1 would be even better for me as most of my cash is sat in a bank account in Singapore

Edit: But I hope the £ quickly stabilises somewhere around 50-55 THB (more would be nice) for the sake of any older Expats who are already feeling the pain from reduced dividends/interest on bank accounts & frozen pensions.

Meanwhile, the UK onshore and offshore populations, elated at their country's new found freedom, start to make their plans for the coming year(s):

For the onshore group this means tightening the purse strings as interest rates are going to rise, imported goods become more expensive and mortgage rates increase - holidays abroad are cancelled as a result of the poor exchange rates, pensioners are forced to tighten their already tight belts as the value of pension funds and draw downs decreases.

The offshore group fares similarly, foreign currency exchange rates means UK pensions and investments translate into fewer Baht per Pound - the requirement for retirees to have 800,000 baht in the bank is a step too far for some. For many this is the straw that broke the camels back and they have to return to the UK leaving behind them partners and extended families and their overseas homes for some of more than twenty years - faced with such a loss so late in life, the suicide rate amongst expats increases.

Don't do it CM it will get better, a few less leo's don't panic!!

This is brilliant

the requirement for retirees to have 800,000 baht in the bank is a step too far for some.

800,000 Baht in the bank is 800,000 Baht in the bank. Regardless of where the £ goes.

But 65,000 income requirement goes up from £1,300 per month at 50:1 THB:GBP to £1,625 per month at 40:1 (if the muted 20% drop happens).

CM did miss one demographic though, those working overseas will get more GBP when shipping money back & we'll all have cheaper trips back.

Though this applies to me, I'm still in the Remain camp but will be shipping a bucket load of cash back if the pound does plummet.

Homes/shelters with food?

Good luck taking care of the poor in Manila, where the biggest slum in the world is located.

People don't like to be treated as animals in a cage, thus they wander off in order to try to make money in any way they can.

Filipinos them self don't give a damn about their own poor. it is all about the close family and be a good catholic and go to church on Sunday..

I can see a new Mexico on the rise.

Obviously your experience in the Philippines differs from mine as the Filipinos I've met care very much about their community as witnessed when Yolanda ripped through the Compostela Valley.

Then again, maybe places like Manila are more of the dog-eat-dog place you describe (i've tended to avoid the place), I'd probably say the same about London Vs my home town in the North West of the UK.

Incidentally, how long have you spent in the Philippines & where have you visited?

Edit:thought I'd Google it as I've always believed Mumbai was the biggest slum in the world, turns out it's 3rd behind Mexico & Pakistan I doubt Manila would make the top 20 when you think of the South American & African countries.

can someone provide a link or other reference regarding this EU citizen-non EU partner and getting them into the UK without the same income restrictions? Im curious to know more about this, thanks.

http://gu.com/p/3y7nx/sbl

Hope this is informative for you.this article is 3yrs old. However the information itself has been well aired in the UK over the last week.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637142/Judge-lets-young-asylum-seeker-s-family-UK-opening-way-thousands-legal-precedent.html

A little addition, you will notice in this article the mention of a child's right to a family life as per the European Convention of Human Rights. Now to be fair I do not know if this is part of the EU. However it does show how British citizens are discriminated against, as there have been instances of UK citizens Having to return to the UK,with their children, yet the mother is refused enter because they cannot comply with the strict entry requirements.

In fairness the Non-UK spouse has to have the right to reside in an EU country so I'm assuming they would need to stay in one for 3 months to obtain an EU residency certificate & then be able to live in the UK under this, as anybody from the UK can do (see Surinder Singh route to UK residency (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surinder_Singh_route).

Was chatting about Duterte with my (Davao) gf last night & she said that a lot of her family & friends are worried about the Drug Lords paying for him to be assassinated, the way he's acting, he's almost daring them to do it.

On a brighter note, we also talked about how you see far fewer beggars in Davao than you do in Cebu, Manila etc... & she explained that Duterte set up a number of homes where they could get shelter/food so there was much less of a need for people to go out begging.

According to the PNP (Philippines National Police) Davao IS (!) the murder capital of the Philippines. The killings go largely unreported - remember Duterte's demand for 'respect' from reporters? (Check some movies by Martin Scorsese for the definition of respect). Take a look here for a statement on reporters: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/31/asia/philippines-duterte-journalists/

The killings by the Davao Death Squad include wide areas including Tagum to the north and Digos to the South. The victims include street children and beggars.

As for the rhetoric argument. 12 days ago the shooting started. General Santos City is also a smoke-free city. The mayor is an ally of Duterte. There is no indication for an independent investigation. It seems the police report suffices. The implications are obvious, me thinks....

4 drug suspects killed in General Santos City shootout

KORONADAL CITY, Philippines—Four drug suspects were killed when they traded shots with the police in General Santos City on Thursday evening, authorities said.

Superintendent Maximo Sebastian Jr., chief of the Regional Special Investigation Detection Team, said on Friday that policemen—backed by a search warrant—tried to enter the house of Banny Marohombsar in Barangay (village) Labangal around 9 p.m. but were met with gunfire.

He said the operating team returned fire and engaged Marohombsar and his companions in a shootout.

Marohombsar, Jasper Calapia Tondog, James Mercado and a certain “Pogi” were killed. Another suspect, identified as Tintin Tan, was arrested.

Recovered from Tan was a .45 caliber pistol. Several other guns and a still undetermined amount of illegal drugs were also recovered alongside the slain victims.

“He (Marohombsar) had been in our watch list for so long already,” Sebastian said. RAM/rga

Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/787862/4-drug-suspects-killed-in-general-santos-city-shootout#ixzz4Arxp2Qz5

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Google beings up loads of results that points to Davao being the safest city in Philippines with this one coming from the Numbeo site http://www.sunstar.com.ph/davao/local-news/2015/06/23/davao-now-4th-safest-city-414856 so effectively feedback from people who live there.

My personal experience is that it feels safer than Manila, Cebu & I've stayed many times 30mins north of Tagum (Kapalong) as that's where my Filipina gf of > 6 years is from.

Don't agree with his methods but you can't argue with his results when it comes to Davao (it #was# the murder capital / wild west of the Philippines but is now regularly cited as it's safest city), the general population there view him as a hero.

LKY was no angel either but look what he managed to do for Singapore.

Yes, these ideas can easily be transferred to 100 million people.

Definitely not suggesting they can & think he'll struggle in Manila (maybe even get a taste of his own medicine).

But having been to Davao many times over the past 7 years, I can tell you the city there is a lot safer than Manila, Cebu etc... And the people seem a lot more laid back & relaxed about their lives.

Don't agree with his methods but you can't argue with his results when it comes to Davao (it #was# the murder capital / wild west of the Philippines but is now regularly cited as it's safest city), the general population there view him as a hero.

LKY was no angel either but look what he managed to do for Singapore.

Stumbled across a new series called Outcast... http://www.foxtv.co.uk/outcast?gclid=CMrIkYjyj80CFUgXaAodtX4OPg

Interesting 1st Episode, will definitely watch the next couple to see if it turns into compulsive viewing [emoji106]

Edit: Link states "Outcast premieres on Tuesday 7 June at 10pm", but I watched a crystal clear version via Kodi/Exodus posted on June 3

Finally got around to watching "The Brothers Grimsby"; loved it, Lmfao though it probably helps being a Northener.

Top film, just be a bit drunk when you watch it

This cross between Borat and Jonny English had me in stitches last night too, with one scene likely to be shortlisted among the funniest of all time

Which scene?

The opening 2 minutes had me pi55ing myself for the rest of the film [emoji12]

I don't see nothing wrong... With a little bump & grind... [emoji12]

Most pay by the SM...mine is 30 per month...either they do a good job or they don't, that actual amount they spend is out of your control, as you can be assured of one thing...they don't care what the foreigner thinks or any great ideas for improvement he may have. The ones where it is only 2-300 per month, per unit, seem to be falling down, and need millions in roof/pool/common area repair.

So if you stay in a 100 sqm condo, you would pay 3000 per month?

Edited: apologies I was thinking in sqf (I am British [emoji4]) so was thinking you were in a 1000 sm condo paying 30k in maintenance

When I first read the OP, I read it as they were paying 30k pm & thought What!!!

But I'm guessing it's 30k split across 78units (approx 385 THB per unit).

Watched "13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi" & enjoyed it [emoji1303] made all the more enjoyable by it being a true story.

Another 2hr 25min film that seemed to fly by

It's interesting that whenever a topic on Brexit comes up, the responses on TV are overwhelmingly on the side of the leave campaign.

Personally, as long as DC can negotiate more sovereign powers over immigration & finance/tax etc..., I think we're better of "Inside the tent pi55ing out".

Just my 2 cents

My usual Kodi repository has been on the blink for a couple of days & whilst browsing a few of the others I stumbled across Life on Mars & realised I hadn't seen all of the episodes.

So started back at SE01E01 & loving it.

Finally got around to watching "The Brothers Grimsby"; loved it, Lmfao though it probably helps being a Northener.

Top film, just be a bit drunk when you watch it

Just got around to starting Elementary season 4

Having been some time since watching season 3, it feels "new & fresh" again [emoji106]

Tried restiring (in the UK) at 40 & was climbing the walls after 3 months so did some freelance consulting before finding a role that gave me what I wanted (chance to work in different countries).

That landed me in Singapore for 6.5 years before the company tried to move me back to the UK so I retired (again) at 49 & lasted 1 year (travelling) before being offered a new role in Singapore.

Been back 3 months (50 now), not sure how long (anywhere between 2 more months & 3 years) it will be before "Retiring" again but next time it will be permanently (3rd time's a charm).

One thing my experiences have taught me is that being financially ready is only 1/2 the battle, you also need to be mentally prepared & have something to fill your days besides beer/bars/birds.

If your field of work enables you to work in the EU for (at least) 3 months then an easier way to get ILR in the UK is the Surinder Singh route...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surinder_Singh_route

The Surinder Singh route is a method for British citizens to secure UK immigration rights for their non-European spouses, who are unable to join their partners because of several changes in UK immigration law aimed at reducing net migration. Through EU Regulations on Free Movement of Peoples, it provides a window of opportunity to reunite UK citizens with their spouses in the increasing number of cases where the new rules on income and other additional measures mean that such spouses of UK citizens would otherwise be separated by the requirements of increasingly strict visa controls

Making the difficult decision to move elsewhere...sold the condos and car...gave away the bike and furniture...left with a backpack and a briefcase...

I have found life less stressful in an English speaking country...better food, healthcare, less hassles and people are less violent...

less hassles and people are less violent....

You are obviously not talking about the UK.

My experience with Thai people is that they are mostly non confrontational.

English speaking countries where Muslims and criminals have not taken over...

Vatican City ?

Can't be the Philippines because he mentioned "Better Food"

Nb... I love the Philippines (Not Angeles!) & have been dating a Filipina for 6 years, but the food isn't a patch on what you get in Thailand.

Watched X-Men Apocalypse at the Imax (3D) last night & (surprisingly) really enjoyed it [emoji106]

2hrs 25mins long but it's fair moving so the time flew by.

Trainspotting... Classic [emoji1303]

Depends on your situation (working Vs retired, married/kids Vs single/carefree) but for me (working & single) Singapore is the best place.

So much so I came out of retirement & got another job here after 1 year (fair bit of which was spent in Thailand as I thought I was going to settle in Bangkok, but the traffic/pollution got to me).