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i already paid him 17k baht as a deposite, he wanted 20k, he passed 15k of that onto the guy that is doing it, so worst case senario is he gets to keep 2k and i pay the rest directly to the man which would be 45K

i am hoping the man will let me do this, i might offer him 50k, 5k as an extra bonus, as long as i don't have to deal with mr honest farang motorbike dealer. anyone that wants to know who it is....pm me.....everything i have said is true, so i don't really care

big bike dealer in pattaya is trying to rip me off, see other thread

What other thread?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=55466

well dave where i come from the standard measure is 35ml, the standard english measure is 25ml, it seems unfortunate that some bars here have adopted 25ml, it's no offence meant to you or the BF but i like what i'm used to, we are talking measures here not prices, the BF charges a little extra as the entertainment is free, that is fine by me and so it should be, don't know what you buy a bottle of 1.0ltr spirit for but I would estimate around 500baht (i can buy 1ltr smirnoff for 650baht) out of which you can get 40 measures if i'm not mistaken, that is one hel_l of a mark up.

"""""Sharknes"""""

LOL

14th is good for me too... I'll be there with my new mia!!!

Although I've already met a lot of the TV members in Pattaya, it'll be good to put a few more faces to some other names.

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i simply couldn't afford to get drunk in the BF, i could spend 2,000baht and walk out sober, small measures and expensive, don't get me wrong this is OK as there is free entertainment on but it's not a place to get pissed every night

I just like the shark bar, it is currently under used and it's a shame.

Not sure where the calculations are coming from?

I would guess that "1953" wouln't have paid any more than half a Million for these

properties, and his price would be based on what he has in them?

A 4 Million baht basic house generally rents for around 30k.

Pattaya not on that much of a roll

I would have thought 8k quite reasonable.

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I think you could be right. 8K a month is 100K a year and if he paid 5-600K for a unit then that's a real fat return. If he paid 1 million its a 9.6% return and close to net as the tenant will pay utils etc.

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I really do not see the point of trying to guess what the OP paid for the units as there is no relevance. What matters is how much the capital value is now and the current level of market rental rates.

The above rate of return calculations also assume 100% occupancy which is unrealistic.

Just having had a quick search of local agents, the first one I came across was Fair Properties, probably the most active agency in the Jomtien area:

CR2454 : Studio for Rent : Jomtien Beach Condo (30 Sq.m) on the 4th floor. Bedroom, bathroom, Cable TV, carpeted floor, Air conditioned, balcony, 500M from Jomtien beach.

Priced at 12,000 Baht per month

CR2444 : Studio for Rent : Jomtien Beach Condo (37 Sq.m) on the 14th floor. Bedroom, bathroom, European kitchen, Cable TV, DVD, tiled floor, Air conditioned, balcony, 500M from Jomtien beach, sea view.

Priced at 15,000 Baht per month

The above make 8,000 Baht per month look way below current market levels on the face of it.

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noel you sound like someone in the renting business or similar interest, renting and property prices are far too high right now, saturation will eventually drive the market down to proper levels not farang rip off levels

I get the impression there are some farangs here with their heads really far up thiers asssses, I also get the impression they came to thailand because they wheren't tolerated in their own country....sad but true

you meet theses people all the time around the town, noses in the air ready to trampel anyone that gets in their way or abuse a thai lady every chance they get because they thing it's their right..................it doesn't matter if you've been here 6 months or 13 years if you're an a'hole with a diminnished view of life and people and have no respect for anyone, it doesn't matter where you go on this world you will always be an a'hole, people who say they've been here or there for x years don't mean diddly, you are who you are nothing to do with how long

not directed at anyone in particular just the a'holes in general

They don't sell 98 in Thailand.

A couple of years ago Bangchak was the only refinery that was losing money and they might just go bankrupt for all I care. I was advised not to use Bangchak's diesel in my Toyota's D4D engine anyway.

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this whole gasohol thing is disturbing, it makes no sense to remove it from retailers, my bike may not run on it, even if it does it will do less milage and cost more, petrol companies win - we loose, i wonder who got the big backhander to push this through government

I have one of those "I'm expensive and can be sold for a couple of cans of beer or a few tabs of Ya-Ba" helmets, and a top box!

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Mine's only a cheaper OGK which means whoever steals and then sells it can only buy a rice meal. Only Gin Kow.

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i thought mine was safe attached under the seat on the hook with metal ring, what is the point of cutting it and stealing, it will no longer buckle, have deploy my cable lock also then.

gharknes, if you've got all the necessary documents did you consider at all doing the registration process yourself?

Here's a step by step guide of someone who has done it.

Quote.

Got the bike into the country and was given all sorts of documents by the

shipping agent. The important ones are the manifest from the shipper, a

YELLOW slip/receipt showing the amount of import tax paid (72K in my

case!!!), a shipping invoice from the person/company who sold you the

vehicle. Along with this you need a notarized document showing your Thai

address, passport copy showing pic page and Visa/Arrival card.

You go to building 2/level 1/counter 5 to submit the initial documents.

Don’t take NO for an answer particularly if you don’t speak Thai. The lady

there on the day I went spoke elementary English which was enough to go to

stage 2. She will staple an inspection sheet to all your forms and will

point to “building 4… inspection”

Stage 2: Inspection… ride bike to building 4 where there is a building and

a garage with 6 (I think) vehicle inspection lanes. Park outside. GO into

room 2 on the ground floor of the building 4 and approach the middle

counter. The lady will check your papers and give you a small blue slip

and she will wave you into LANE 1 for an inspection. Park the bike in

between lane 1 & 2, and wait. You should have time for 3-4 cigarettes while

someone scantly looks over the bike and “brass rubs” the chassis number onto

masking tape. Take papers back inside once complete to the same lady and

wait (15mins) and she will hand everything back to you. Now return to

building 2, 4th floor and show the papers to the info desk. You will be

ushered to a desk out the back to a guy who allocates number plate numbers.

It will be written on the sheet and handed back to you. Now go to ground

floor again, counter 5 and give all the papers in.

You’ll be told to buy compulsory insurance. The Dept of Insurance counter

is right adjacent to Counter 5. Drop your papers in the plastic box on the

booth and they will be processed and you will be issued a handwritten

Insurance disc and asked to pay 645bht. Pay it and go back to counter 5

behind you. Now all things being equal, you should be registered and

insured. Last task is to get the plate from building 6 but in my case,

after 4 hours they took pity on me and sent the runner to get the plate for

me.

Go outside, breathe deeply and light a cigarette if you haven’t smoked them

all already. Tuck the plate in your trousers, put the insurance disc in

your pocket and head on out. In my case, I U-Turned back towards Vibhavbi

Rangsit road past Mo Chit Market and was immediately stopped my a fat

policeman. I smiled, handed him the insurance disc and number plate and

tapped my feet. After 3 minutes of tooth sucking, no offences could be

concocted against me and I was waved on my legal way without paying any

500bht bribes

I used to live in Japan and once did the entire work permit process myself

at the Minato-ku Immigration Bureau – put it this way, I had flash backs to

that experience on Monday.

Easy peasy

Unquote.

Sounds like a lot of money could be saved if you could spare a day to DIY.

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Yes I did consider doing this myself but I didn't think someone would try to rip me off to the tune of 30k baht, I was willing to pay the person 5-10k for doing it for me, but 25k is just plain rediculous, the guy that is doing the job gets 5k, the bikeshop does nothing and gets 25k, I know how this is going to turn out.

Poo.

Good idea to email them though.

THanks for that.

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Mr A, have you come across water wetter or wetter water or whatever TFII, looking for something that improves cooling on a watercooled system.

I bought a Honda Blackbird from that site, the guy was genuine enough and it came with all the correct papers to enable me to get a brand new registration book

mostly went ok except a supposed honorable (phucking robbing bastid) big bike dealer in pattaya is trying to rip me off, see other thread, don't go to a dealer for your plate without speaking to an independant person that knows the ropes

I wanted to know what kind of vehicles people are riding around LOS in.  If you have a picture, lets see it!

Peace

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Why just los, this is a thailand forum

I have a Black Blackbird 1100xx

You paid 65,000? From what I've read and heard, you should've paid about 25k for that kind of book.  

I would suggest showing the bike and book to a reputable shop first and see what they say. Red Baron won't have any bike on their premises with falsified books or that have had new engine or frame numbers restamped on them.

Some shops may just say 'No Problem' because they don't want to lose business.

Did the shop/person that got you the green book take the bike off you for a day or two to get it registered?

If they did, and if the engine and frame numbers haven't been changed in the book, and are the same as what is on your bike, then they've stamped on new numbers onto your engine and frame to match with what is in the book. That's surely illegal.

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Gazza you are spot on, there are two ways to get a book, a new book "legal" or a book from another bike made up to match your bike "illegal"

It is always best to get the legal book as mentioned you will have problems when selling or transfering ownership, the new registration system recently introduced is now on computer and makes it very simple for the authorities to check the authenticity of you bike and paperwork, the registration is a legal document.

I am currently going through this process after buying a bike without plate, the main thing is to make sure you have the correct import documents and invoices when you buy, then find a reputable person that will process this for your plate without ripping you off.

I went to a certain dealer in Pattaya who convinced me that he could do all this for me for 80k, he advised me about how straight he was and that a new book was always best especially if I ever wanted to sell the bike on, so I gave him my paperwork and let him go ahead. through the weeks that followed i discovered that he wasn't doing the work at all, he passed my paperwork to another person that I have met since, I could have gone to this other person myself, his price is 55k, on top of that he did not request a new book for me, he requested a 2nd hand book from another bike and as mentioned above should only have cost 25k, so this guy was trying to make 55k from me for doing nothing, I went to see him not letting on I had uncovered his rip off scam and asked him what sort of book he had requested for me assuring him I would know the difference when I got it, he assurred me it will be a new book, I left and 5 mins later he was on the phone telling the other chap to change the order to a new book.

I will not publish his name on here or his business but if you need a book done in the pattaya/chonburi area or need advice on a bike when buying PM me and I will put you in touch with the right person.

I still don't have my plate yet but it will be interesting when it comes because I won't be giving this dishonest assssshole 80,000baht

once this is played out I will publish his name and business

i skipped through this thread and i'm not surprised to see that most of it contains posts from people that express opinions on what they think "must" have happened and what type of person they think someone is without actually knowing, this is why the jury system can be dangerous.

What we do know is that they argued often and had serious physical conflict, the sad thing is neither of them had the sense or courage to walk away before a serious injury took place, yes she was Thai (so what) he was farang (so what) they where both people, she probably had nothing to gain by killing him except maybe a backpack so no motive as such

I notice more and more as I stay here a certain type of farage that has some kind off superiority idea between themselves and Thais, I had an argument with a realy nasty ignorant farang one night when I was out playing pool with my team in another bar, I was accompanied by my Thai Girlfriend who also played on the team, this guy walks over to where she was sitting and told her to set the table up for the next game as he was above that sort of thing when Thai Girls where available, I grabbed her arm as she was getting off the seat and told her to sit down, this guy got angry, i basically told him to F off and do it himself, I've seen this sort of thing many times, my mates wife was at the center of another incident from a very rude farang who again though - ah thai girl - I can treat her like &lt;deleted&gt;, touch her up make joke of her..............he leaned a hard lesson that night

The point I'm making here is there are a number of farang or foreighners that come to this country with a preconceived idea that Thai people are below them and can abuse and treat them as they see fit, in the case of the unfortunate event on this thread they already have the answers based their own head in ass attitude, we are allowed to abuse Thais if they retaliate it's not our fault.

for those that don't want to wait lets do the shark bar soi 0 first, happy hour 8-10 50baht for all drinks, karaoke food music pool ......then it's still cheap 70baht for tiger after 10.............blues F is a lttle bit expensive for a piss up.

Shark Bar soi 0, nice place, we got good food-pool-karaoke-music-good mixture of farang and thai customers, drinks reasonable and open as long as you want :-)

happy hour 8-10 all drinks 50baht

............Yes this a problem on some beaches. When I first moved to Sattahip 5 years ago, I was even thrown out of the market for not being Thai Now I can get in everywhere Ok as they know me. Best to have a Thai with you however.

The other beach I mentioned earlier as being near my bungalow does not have these restrictions, and farangs can go alone. Busy at weekends, quiet during the week................

well i went yesterday to investigate on me bike and was turned away by military everywhere i tried to go, can someone give good directions to the unrestricted beach, Ban Chang also has a nice beach.

I need a PC motherboard to use for parts, if you have an old one lying around and will never use again can I have it please - live in pattaya.

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Anyone ??????

ok, i'm confused, i use paypal here all the time, most sellers on ebay or any other online world shipper will not ship to thailand because of import issues so you generally need to ship to your base country UK or USA then get shipped to Thailand, i have had small light items shipped to me directly but only after email to seller, ebay or paypal don't know i'm in thailand ?

here are two network traces i produced, i use maxnet, the first was when i was having speed problems, i sent this trace to Maxnet support and also CAT II, never got a response from either but the seem to have corrected the problem, you will see clearly that nodes 7 8 & 9 (CAT II) within Thailand have a problem, the ping jumps from a normal 40ms to over 400ms, you can see this, look at Packet Data node 7-8

The second trace was done today to the adslthailand.com site and shows no problems.

1ST TRACE

Node Data

Node Net Reg IP Address Location Node Name

1 - - 192.168.1.2 12.933N, 100.883E d800

2 1 - 192.168.1.1 Unknown

3 2 - 58.147.24.0 Unknown

4 3 - 10.122.20.254 Unknown

5 4 - 172.16.10.129 Unknown

6 4 - 172.16.10.98 Unknown

7 1 - 192.168.10.10 CAT II

8 5 - 202.47.254.161 CAT II

9 5 - 202.47.253.150 CAT II

10 5 - 202.47.253.213 Unknown

11 6 1 209.58.85.17 Los Angeles if-1-0.bb3.laa-losangeles.teleglobe.net

12 6 1 209.58.85.14 Los Angeles if-6-0.core2.laa-losangeles.teleglobe.net

13 7 1 216.6.85.13 Los Angeles if-3-1.mcore4.laa-losangeles.teleglobe.net

14 7 1 216.6.86.9 Sunnyvale if-5-0.mcore4.pdi-paloalto.teleglobe.net

15 7 1 216.6.86.18 Sunnyvale if-3-0.core2.pdi-paloalto.teleglobe.net

16 8 1 64.86.84.150 Sunnyvale ix-2-0.core2.pdi-paloalto.teleglobe.net

17 9 2 216.115.106.183 Unknown ge-3-0-0-p251.msr2.scd.yahoo.com

18 10 2 66.218.82.223 Unknown unknown-66-218-82-223.yahoo.com

19 11 2 66.94.228.103 Unknown c2.finance.vip.scd.yahoo.com

Packet Data

Node High Low Avg Tot Lost

1 0 0 0 1 0

2 0 0 0 4 0

3 53 42 52 4 0

4 42 40 41 4 0

5 51 51 51 7 6

6 52 52 52 7 6

7 47 47 47 3 0

8 379 228 288 3 0

9 419 226 306 3 0

10 616 418 497 3 0

11 606 446 512 3 0

12 634 450 512 3 0

13 592 449 514 3 0

14 595 463 527 3 0

15 612 456 533 3 0

16 583 583 583 5 4

17 586 379 482 3 0

18 602 380 488 3 0

19 608 371 500 3 0

Network id#: 5

Data Comm. Dept.(Internet)

CAT Telecom Public Company Ltd,

72 Charoenkrung Road Bangrak Bangkok THAILAND 10501

Thailand

2ND TRACE

Node Data

Node Net Reg IP Address Location Node Name

1 - - 192.168.1.2 MY INTERNAL IP

2 1 - 192.168.1.1 MY ROUTER

3 2 - 58.147.*.* MY MAXNET IP

4 3 - 10.122.20.254 Unknown

5 4 - 172.16.10.129 Unknown

6 4 - 172.16.10.98 Unknown

7 1 - 192.168.10.10 Unknown

8 5 - 202.129.63.209 CAT II

9 5 - 202.47.255.4 CAT II

10 5 - 202.47.255.122 CAT II

11 6 - 203.195.105.61 Unknown

12 6 - 203.195.105.134 Unknown

13 6 - 203.195.105.98 Unknown

14 6 - 203.107.130.208 Unknown ce1-b3.ksc.net.th

15 6 1 203.107.132.133 Unknown www.adslthailand.com

Packet Data

Node High Low Avg Tot Lost

1 0 0 0 1 0

2 2 1 1 8 0

3 42 38 39 8 0

4 44 40 41 8 0

5 54 54 54 15 14

6 55 55 55 13 12

7 54 45 47 7 0

8 48 45 46 7 0

9 49 46 47 7 0

10 47 44 46 7 0

11 50 46 47 7 0

12 88 48 49 7 0

13 50 47 49 7 0

14 50 46 48 7 0

15 49 47 48 7 0

Network id#: 5

Data Comm. Dept.(Internet)

CAT Telecom Public Company Ltd,

72 Charoenkrung Road Bangrak Bangkok THAILAND 10501

Thailand

Any time i have problems, the bottleneck has always been CAT Telecom Bangkok

Got to agree that the food at both the Pig and Queen Vics is good. But for me the best breakfast is at Jimmy Macs on soi 6, and the view is very good as well. 

P.S. heads are clean.

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best breakfast for me is in my own kitchen made by my own hands and costs 60baht

Got to agree that the food at both the Pig and Queen Vics is good. But for me the best breakfast is at Jimmy Macs on soi 6, and the view is very good as well. 

P.S. heads are clean.

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best breakfast for me is in my own kitchen made by my own hands and costs 60baht

Got to agree that the food at both the Pig and Queen Vics is good. But for me the best breakfast is at Jimmy Macs on soi 6, and the view is very good as well. 

P.S. heads are clean.

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best breakfast for me is in my own kitchen made by my own hands and costs 60baht

Got to agree that the food at both the Pig and Queen Vics is good. But for me the best breakfast is at Jimmy Macs on soi 6, and the view is very good as well. 

P.S. heads are clean.

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best breakfast for me is in my own kitchen made by my own hands and costs 60baht