Eric Loh

I see all the ptp apologists are trying their hardest to put their spin on this. We all know that the only way the ptp/reds can get what they want is to spread lies and innuendo and some of those in here cant help themselves, shows how pathetic some people are when they have to satisfy their other halfs demands on their political views and those of their families or face being told to leave. The only press releases overseas are overseen by thaksin aligned reporters, anyone believing the crap they write or promote would have to be totally gullible, cant help some people. What all this boils down to is that the ptp/red/thaksin supporters cannot handle the fact the truth is emerging after having it covered up for so many years and are trying to put bullsh*t up to try to confuse the public, after years of thaksins lackies running the show they dont want to give anything up.

You could take just about everything you said in regards to the Reds/PTP and equally apply it to the Yellows/Dems/PDRC.

Talk about covering up the "truth". Let's try Suthep's palm oil dealings, and his land give away to his buddies. Let's talk about the Dem's own rice scheme which failed miserably. Trust me, there is an entire litany of things they have buried, covered up, and just flat out got away with, yet no one has ever been held accountable for any of them. I'm not pro-red or pro-Thaksin by a long shot, but neither am I color blind by either side and try to look at the whole picture. Perhaps you should try that some time and find out that your "hero's" aren't as lily white as you seem to think they are.

Like you, I am totally disgusted with the the highly skewed double standard and like you, I am no Thaksin or PT sympathizer. Suthep has a long laundry list of corruption and even impeachment case over the Phuket land corruption case. Ahbisit borrowed heavily to finance various populist policies raising the debt to GDP ratio to unprecedented level. And the disgusting Saejae untouchables are the epitome of corruption longer than any political parties or personalities. Seem the only people on trials are those who are popularly elected and have huge support from the poor. Not hard to see the irony and the blind followers inability to comprehend that it is those elites pulling the strings to rid all their opponents to maintain their power and wealth.

Just don't stand a chance for good world opinion to have a trial under a junta regime with appointed NLA and the NACC stuffed with anti Thaksin officers. Most will call this a kangaroo court.

"What they did was disrespectful to the NLA and an insult to the public. The people were deprived the chance of learning about the scheme since Yingluck refused to honestly answer questions in the assembly," he said. Agreed, it's an insult to the Thai people her not even bothering to turn up for questioning.

She, like all her clan, couldn't give a monkey's toss for the Thai people. They are simply a resource to be exploited for Shin benefit.

Her closing statement will probably repeat what the other puppets said, be tinged with copious comments of "I innocent, I help poor farmers, I policy owner not manager"; and the usual not too subtle threats of how her supporters will react should any verdict or comments not be to her liking.

The actress will have a new script. There will be no admission of anything being wrong, her previous lies, the dire consequences for many of her lies, or any fault, responsibility or accountability whatsoever. Far too arrogant, grandiose and thick skinned for that.

The Thaksin PR/Legal spin doctors have no real defense, so can't really provide factual information. So polished lying is the only alternative.

Usual hyperbole so early in the morning. We at a stage whereby the song and dance from all sides are not important now. The stage has been set for a verdict on Friday. Whatever the verdict outcome, it will not help with the reconciliation. One side will be aggrieved. She is dispensable and doubt she will come back to politics if impeached or not. Criminal charges by Supreme Court will be a different cup of tea and will not be pleasant. This one big banana skin for Prayuth and his bring back happiness effort. His efforts are sinking fast like a quicksand unless he has other intention on his mind and that will be very very unpleasant. All said, the coup will be a disaster like 2006.

It's interesting to see that public opinion is very much with Yingluck in this NACC relentless pursuit. Most articles in the mass media related to this case that invite public opinion seem to take side with Yingluck. As Professor Somchai deputy rector of the Chiangmai University opined that if the NLA was to act on their conscience, they will ruled against the charge to impeach her. I agree.

Eric, we all know you think the sun shines out her arse and that she's totally innocent of doing any wrong ever.

All the public opinion I've heard from Thai friends, colleagues including many who voted for PTP is that she's been as negligent as possible, Simply didn't do anything other than what her criminal brother instructed from his fugitive havens,

Chaingmai University - isn't she an alumni of that place? A former class president, student leader of some sort? Still he's playing safe as her family's private militia are centered there and not known for the tolerance of free speech and speaking against their masters.

Do you really think she is so dumb that she had no ideas of what was really going on? Or did she simply chose to ignore it, along with all the oaths she swore when taking office - and ignored too?

Eric (and others) are of the opinion that public opinion is with Yingluck. You (and others) believe that public opinion is against her. The irony is of course that the true test of public opinion, the general election which she called in accordance with the constitution was ultimately prevented by the coup which installed the Junta !

The only publicly available guide we seem to have are various Junta initiated surveys, whose claims of support in the 90% area only the most devoted fans of military government would come close to believing. Let us not even bother with the surveys of "community leaders" to ascertain their level of happiness. I doubt even the Junta believe them!

Public opinion remains effectively suppressed, along with freedom of expression and assembly, so there is little point debating it until it can be tested in a free and fair election. Therefore it is unlikely to be an acknowledged feature of Thai politics for quite a long time!

Yes election will be the penultimate way to gauge public opinion. With an election still without a firm date and poll by highly suspicious military initiated survey, the like and dislike vote from the general public albeit simple does seem to be a reliable barometer to gauge public sentiment. Take for instance the news about the u-tube defence in a major English newspaper has 33% more agreeing. I seen many related articles and most have the same statistic. Let's not even bother about world opinion. Win or lose, this case reflect very poorly on Thailand.

It's interesting to see that public opinion is very much with Yingluck in this NACC relentless pursuit. Most articles in the mass media related to this case that invite public opinion seem to take side with Yingluck. As Professor Somchai deputy rector of the Chiangmai University opined that if the NLA was to act on their conscience, they will ruled against the charge to impeach her. I agree.

I won't ask for a poll on this as you wouldn't accept the results anyway.

If the NLA is acting on it's conscience they would impeach Ms. Yingluck. She is still avoiding questions, gives answers unrelated to questions asked and is intend on dodging responsibility.

I would prefer they stick to provable facts versus their conscience.

In a normal circumstance and a fair trial, I would prefer the ruling is based on provable facts than conscience. But this ain't normal circumstance and anywhere in the world would look at any post coup trials with lots of suspicion and not worthy of any credibility. I hope that the NLA will vote wisely and not made this trial a mockery for the free world.

It's interesting to see that public opinion is very much with Yingluck in this NACC relentless pursuit. Most articles in the mass media related to this case that invite public opinion seem to take side with Yingluck. As Professor Somchai deputy rector of the Chiangmai University opined that if the NLA was to act on their conscience, they will ruled against the charge to impeach her. I agree.

See the nation is really showing it's allegiance to the yellow dem junta coalition .

No need for attitude adjustment with them it's always been there and they just keep churning out bias articles which sends the yellow dems into a zombie like feeding frenzy.

Won't help at election time though!

if you think their will be an election your more naive than brainwashed Issan

Or at least this time they have thankfully learnt from 2006 and I hope and believe they wont maker same mistake and this time once and for all put total paid to Taksin his vile clan and rest of them

And dont give me that democracy claptrap BS. Hitler was elected as was saddam and rest. Thailand is simply not ready for democracy and wont be until uneducated majority actually understand what it means and cant be bought y 500 baht or head of villages say so or vile red shirt thug intimidation

Well done Suphet for at last putting with help vile would be dictator in his place.

And dont for i minute think the people will rise up. They wont since vast majority are total cowards

Their will probably be some form of bloodbath but then as before it will all settle down as normal

Who is Suphet?

Eric and Bruce your doubts are valid but let us wait and see what the future brings, I personally think 2015 is going to be very interesting and that your doubts will go away and you to will see that the Thai people want a new Thailand with a true transparent governing body.

Wilson points noted. I am all for the reforms and charter changes that is equitable to all Thai people. Somehow I have less confident than you considering the circumstances that leads to the coup and the appointees that filled up the NLA, NRC and the NRC. The martial law and the tight leash on freedom of speech and expression are really not conducive to a transparent governing body. As a businessman, I take comfort to know that the PM has been business friendly but I worry about the large budget deficit, loans and the warming up to China. The odds are large that a better Thailand will emerge. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

I think the current PM should run for the next election. At the moment he is doing a great job, cleaning up the mess made by previous PMs and their cronies.

Love your optimism but 18 coups and resultant 18 constitutions do rub off all the shine from this current junta. You expect this to be different?

That's why generals should just stick to military matters and not involved with government matters. The PM simply do not understand democracy and free and fair election for all people to determined the political makeup and no restriction of candidates or political parties. Those comment should not be made by a junta PM and cast a poor light on him as trying to sell himself and prolonging his stay in power. Poor judgement.

If the junta is really serious about reform, they should start with the NACC whose bias is so great that no reasonable person could ever take this kangaroo court seriously. Start with Khun Wicha, former judge and a man who openly declared he don't like election. Even during the PDRC protest period, he has declared openly his mission to eradicate Yingluck. With this kind of mindset, you think he will be fair with the investigation? I hope the NLA is wise enough to see through this bias political agenda and vote against the charges.

Dr. Pridiyathorn does have a rather poor track record even when he was the FM for the previous junta government. His capital control policy sent the SET down record depth.

Thai culture is not conducive to democracy, with the act of kreng jai and not questioning your superior they are taught from very young to accept. That is not the root of democracy.

Like in most Asian Confucian countries like China, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan etc and they have roots steeped in democracy. Poor excuse for denying democracy.

Omit China.

Thai culture is not conducive to democracy, with the act of kreng jai and not questioning your superior they are taught from very young to accept. That is not the root of democracy.

Like in most Asian Confucian countries like China, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan etc and they have roots steeped in democracy. Poor excuse for denying democracy.

In Malaysia, you need also to add those weird holidays given by the country and states for winning the Thomas Cup or the FA Cuo respectively.

Fix all the laws and conditions you want. If the judges interpret the laws in their own idioscrantic way like they did when they ruled the Bangkok shutdown as legit, we will still have issues. Judiciary reform should come hand in hand with new laws.

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Could it be worse than that offered in the red shirt democracy schools that suddenly sprung up in northern parts during 2010?

yes

red shirts actually care about democracy

"red shirts actually care about democracy"

So how do you explain the various actions of the previous red gov't to create / install a dictatorship?

Is this the retro show "kids say the darnest things".

Will be immensely beneficial if the Dem Party attend the course especially for Ahbisit. Will be time for soul searching and reflection on why he boycott election twice, agreed to an appointed government and support a Junta constitution.

Pretty easy just google

them!

Anyway I know you lot stick together so I won't harp on this anymore.

Your hero Jamie ask me to call him out on calling yingluck being a convicted criminal I did and all his credibility has gone and so has !

The parrot doesn't lie!

One achievement stand out for me in her PR charm offensive to mend the relationship with neighbouring countries like Cambodia and Mynmar which mades the current PM job much easier meeting their leaders. I would also credit her for building up a good relationship with Japan and China who are now our major investors.

Are you serious - really serious?

I sincerely doubt the sanity of anyone who could believe Yingluck made any contribution to anything other than to sit and smile nicely and the odd flirt like with Obama.

Can you provide examples of specific actions she undertook with the countries you name? Apart from Cambodia whose own odious leader, the ex Khmer Rouge terrorist leader. is bossom pals with her criminal brother and her clan.

Do you think China and Japan invest in Thailand because of Yingluck? Japan where threatening to pull investment out after her governments pathetic and corrupt attempts at managing the flood of 2011.

Failing to address the issue gets interesting.

Next we may hear how the RPPS disaster helped Thailand's relation with Vietnam and India

It is at this junction that you leave this feeding frenzy knowing that nothing intelligent will be forthcoming.

Pretty easy just google

them!

Anyway I know you lot stick together so I won't harp on this anymore.

Your hero Jamie ask me to call him out on calling yingluck being a convicted criminal I did and all his credibility has gone and so has !

The parrot doesn't lie!

One achievement stand out for me in her PR charm offensive to mend the relationship with neighbouring countries like Cambodia and Mynmar which mades the current PM job much easier meeting their leaders. I would also credit her for building up a good relationship with Japan and China who are now our major investors.

Can only happen IF the government iron out the bottle necks in dispensing the budget, act quickly to legislate the laws regarding the massive projects, lift martial law to increase tourists inflow, China and EU get back to growth and our major trading partners have a firm guarantee from the junta on election date.

Baht is not strong but just that it depreciated less than some other countries. The capital outflow as a result of the Fed scaling down its accommodative monetary policy last year has bottom out. Now it's basically down to individual country fundamentals. Countries that depend much on foreign capital inflow like Indonesia will continue to suffer the consequences of outflows and currency depreciation. Thailand depend less on foreign capital inflow and most foreign capital have left our shores following Fed policy.

Oil exporting countries like Malaysia now suffered from larger current account deficit and the Ringgit has depreciated a lot more than the Baht. The low oil price will lessen Thailand current account and plus the high foreign reserve, the Baht has been steady and in fact, appreciated slightly today. I think the Baht will be range bound for the short term up till the massive infrastructure projects get started which will generate new dynamics to the Baht.