Mango Bob

4 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Your question is undoubtedly inspired by the new health insurance requirement when applying for a Non Imm OA Visa.  Although there is much confusion and contradictory posts on the subject, most probably that requirement will NOT be applicable for extensions of stay.  Hence there is no need to change your Visa category, as the requirements for extension of stay for O and OA are same.

I want to agree with you.  However, no one here stamps my visa but the IO.  Today I called my IO and they said what others said here that I would have to get insurance to extend again.

18 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Hi Mango Bob > Can you rephrase the question?  It's not clear for me what you are asking or looking for.

What type of a retirement visa was it?  An Non 0 or a Non O/A?

4 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

I do not doubt that Oslooskar did get the above response from an Immigration Officer.

However, there are also several reports from TVF members who queried their provincial Immigration Office on the issue, and received the response that health insurance will NOT be required for any extension of stay.

Note: That response is in line with the rationale to ONLY impose the health insurance requirement for those  applying for a Non Imm OA Visa in their home-country < see my post #150 >

 

But were does people on a Non 0 or O/A visa to begin with?

If I left Thailand when my current extension of stay expires (Non O/A 13 years ago) where would be the best country and consulate to obtain a Non O visa?

1 minute ago, Pattaya46 said:

Hi. First; I said 'some', not 'most' . Second; the requirement for O-A was just equivalent of 800k in the bank when asking for the visa, so just a few days. Very different of 800/400k all year long, and by example very easy to achieve with the help of a few friends or family members in home country.

then why does an o/a who apply for extension of stay and been here 10 years have to have insurance.  Both the o/a and the o are the same.  Explain that.

I received this email this morning from some Thai Visa Center.  It said I had a conversation with someone.  I don't remember talking with anyone here.  It just something I would never do.  I doubt I would ever use a service to do my extension of stay.  But here is the email.

I did my last extension of stay last July and need a Bank Statement covering a full year (not the bank Book), the letter from the bank dated the day you process your extension of stay, and make a withdrawal or deposit before you update your bank book.  At Bangkok Bank you need to go in at least 4 days prior to request the bank statement because if over 6 month statement it must come from the head office.

Just now, pontious said:

But TI will not accept TRICARE. They are not on the list.

Yes, we know that.  But if we have to get insurance here.  They pay first and then Tricare would pay.

1 minute ago, Pib said:

Understand....just be sure to scope out the OHI issue with Tricare.  Probably worth some googling and calls to their claim department to give examples, ask specific questions like how a high deductible OHI is handled for Tricare reimbursement. 

I will write to them 

Pib

I don't know how old you are but I am limited to one or two insurance companies here.  I don't have a lot of choices.   Also I just seen that the hospital list is only for the Standard plan not the Platinum Plan. 

Pib

Like I said I only use Bumrungrad and BNH for all inpatient or outpatient care.  Tricare can not stop me from using them and use a government or private Thai hospital because I have insurance with Pacific Life.  

1 minute ago, Pib said:

Unless that is one of the approved govt plans for an OA visa then such a deductible might not be allowed.

I filled out the application form and it is on there also.  Monday I may called them and ask lots of questions.

3 minutes ago, Pib said:

How much does a Bt300K deductible lower premiums?  And are you sure you can even take such a high deductible as that would seem to defeat almost all of the coverage that the govt wants a person to have. 

I read it in there brochure.  It said to reduce the policy by 50%.

39 minutes ago, Pib said:

When you have "other" type of insurance you must file a claim with them before filing your Tricare claim, to include attaching a Explanation of Benefits paid by that other insurance.  So, you would need to use your private, high cost, poor coverage Thai insurance first which then risks premium increases or cancellation before you can legally file your Tricare claim.  See below snapshot from the Tricare claim form, DD Form 2642, that you have surely completed/filed many times over the years.

 

Yes, I know about this.  My understand is that the Pacific Life policy does not cover you if you use Bumrungrad or BNH which are the hospitals I use for both inpatient and outpatient care.  Also, I plan to take the 300,000 deduction to lower the cost of the Pacific Life policy.  But I sure hope I don't need this insurance.  But I have 9 more months until my extension ends and I need to extend again.  Lots can change by then both good and bad.

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I had a phone call the other day with a farang rep at Pacific Cross, and he indicated that in terms of Pacific Cross issuing the required O-A insurance certification....

 

....Any of the three Platinum policies they list on their TGIA-linked page would qualify, as well as any of their general public policies starting with their Standard Extra and above plans (meaning NOT their lower Standard and Standard Plus plans).

 

...assuming you meet their age eligibility requirements.

 

PS - Don't ask me to explain why they're saying their Standard Plus policy would NOT qualify for an O-A insurance certificate. It meets the 40/400K coverage minimums. All the Pacific Cross guy could say was, the Standard Plus plan has not been approved by the government for O-A purposes.

 

Thank you every much.  I understand now.  Got confused reading two topics here you had answered in.  Again Thanks.

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Because they're the Thai govt., not private insurance companies?

 

And in many cases, re the Thai insurance companies, they won't write new policies for people beyond age 65, so no premium amounts to quote.

 

I was looking at the Standard plans not the Platinum plans.  Can we get the Platinum plans or the Standard Extra plan?

42 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Anything's worth a try...

 

But, the written info received thus far from the Wash DC Embassy and the Chicago Consulate is that they're going to require the specific Thai government insurance certificate signed by the foreign insurer, if the O-A applicant wants to rely on a foreign insurance policy. There doesn't appear to be any wiggle room about that.

 

Why do they not list cost for those over 65?  

On 10/14/2019 at 11:24 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

According to the Pacific Cross rep's recent post here, originally, only the policies specifically listed on the TGIA O-A page were going to be deemed acceptable for O-A compliance, not their regular policy line. And even now, the Immigration language says the complying policies must be purchased online via the TGIA website.

 

 

However, the rep's post indicated PC ended up going and persuading the government to allow all of their policies that met the coverage minimums to be deemed in compliance -- not just the 3 O-A policies they currently have listed on the O-A website.  Originally, that was not going to be the case.

 

My follow-up question I posed to them -- which they have not answered as yet -- is whether or not the government's permission to Pacific Cross also extended to all the other insurers listed on the O-A website, meaning, are all of their policies also available now provided they meet the minimums.

 

 

I think that is for someone applying for an O/A from outside of Thailand.  

17 minutes ago, domdom said:

Good morning

 

As announced I went today to Jomtien immigration to check again what has been told to me tuesday by the male immigration officer at the entrance of immigration office

This time I went to counter 8 and checked with the lady with glasses who sits outside the counter and checks the papers when we apply for extension..

She asked me why I came back as I made my extension on september 4th.. So I told her I heard there would be a mandatory health insurance and she immediately answered ' not for you, only for new OA visas after 31st October..

I again asked her "so, when I do my extension next year no need of a health insurance

No, no need for extension, only for new visas..

 

Things are pretty clear in Jomtien apparently

Have a nice day

Are you on an Non O/A or O?

10 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

Have asked a few times.. Is anyone compiling a list of the offices that say it isnt needed ?? I havent seen many / any firm reports, yet have seen firm clear (for what thats worth) reports from many saying it is. 

 

Trying to gauge 'mood' and thinking more than anything.. 

There are so many trolls spamming this topic that it is hard to tell. 

Where is the report button?

I found it.  Thank you.

I used to do my 90 day report by mail because immigrations was located in Nakhon Pathom, 90 km from my home.    They usually took 3 to 4 weeks to get back.  But I always got them.