Mango Bob

54 minutes ago, Pib said:

Pib

Are you a member of the Tricare in Thailand group on facebook.  If not you should join.  We need good people like you.   

 

 

5 minutes ago, flexomike said:

wrong just looked at mine from 2016 and it gives one year to use it

Wrong.  

24 minutes ago, gaviny said:

And that would mean you would only have 9 months in Thailand and not a year then , correct ?

No not correct.  Once you get your visa you have three months to enter Thailand.  Once you enter Thailand you have one year from that date not the date you got the visa the DATE YOU ENTER THAILAND.

1 hour ago, Tanoshi said:

All O-A Visas are valid for 1 year to enter Thailand regardless of the issuing Thai Embassy/Consulate.

Perhaps your memory isn't what it once was Bob.

Look at the 'issue' date and the 'enter before' date of your old O-A Visa, I guarantee it is 1 year.

You should learn to read.  I said one year once you enter Thailand.  But you have three months to use the visa.  i.e. if issued on 1 May you have to 1 Aug to enter Thailand.   

35 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

You were wrongly informed.

O-A Visas are valid for 1 year.

That means from the date of issue (displayed on the Visa) you can enter anytime up to the 'enter before' date (also displayed on the Visa) and be granted 1 year permission of stay.

 

The single entry 'O' Visa is only valid for 90 days.

If you got an O/A in the U.S. the visa would state that you have three months to enter Thailand.  If you did not enter during that time your visa is invalided.  I did my O/A in New York in 2005 and I remember it stating that.

Once you arrive in Thailand your have 1 year.

11 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Do you mean Pib?

 

That was in regard to extension of stay, which is another long story still being sorted out.

 

it had nothing to do with re-entry on a re-entry permit.

 

No IO anywhere that I have seen has suggested a need for insurance entering on a re-entry permit.

 

 A re-entry permit refers to an already granted permission to stay.  Entering in one does not give any additional time.  Your permission to stay period remains exactly  the same as it was. As it is an al;ready granted period of stay new requirements don't come into play.

 

New period of permission to stay is generated by a new entry under a still valid visa, or by an extension of stay.  Pib's discussion with CW imm (which may have yielded wrong info, time will tell) was in reference to a future extension of stay.

 

The Police Order explicitly states that already granted periods of stay are unaffected.

 

 

Example is:  You have an extension of stay that expires in 1 Jun 20.  You have not be required to have insurance when you did your extension of stay.  You go away for Christmas and return on 3 Jan 20.  You are still on the current extension of stay.  You need do not need insurance until you apply for your next extension of stay on 1 Jun 20.

35 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Obviously having no cash limit Tricare not only meets but exceeds TI requirement. But IOs do not review insurance documents; they look for the standard signed certificate. Need to get that from Tricare which will be hard to arrange.

There is also an issue of whether any foreign policy or plan will be accepted; this is still being sorted out.

People with Tricare should contact the Embassy and ask them to help in (1) getting signed certificates for Tricare holders and (2) talking to TI/MoPH to explain re Tricare and advocate for acceptance of valid foreign coverage including Tricare and private insurance



Can't expect them to know the problem otherwise.

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Sherly

I'm am in a Facebook group called Tricare in Thailand.  The only hope we have now is if the Embassy will discuss with Thai government that we exceed the requirement Immigrations has in placed and add us to the longstay insurance group.  That is the only hope I think we have left.  Letters have been sent out to the U.S. government asking for help.

46 minutes ago, domdom said:

Good morning,

Apparently Jomtien immigration told one person who came to enquire for his extension in November, that the insurance condition only applies to new OA visas issued after October 31st and subsequent extensions..

People already here with visas or extensions don t need the insurance

I go tomorrow for my 90 days and will check myself and revert

Have a nice day

I want to believe this but seeing all the trolls that has been coming here and lying I don't trust anyone anymore.  This place got me shellshocked. 

Can anyone point out where they see on the police order that it applies to those who are on an extension of stay prior to 31 Oct 19.  I just see that it applies to those who arrive after 31 Oct 19.   Could there be another police order we don't know about stating that anyone on an extension of stay prior to 31 Oct 19 must have health insurance?  Maybe someone need to get with immigrations and not the IO but the ones who wrote this order.

I seen one for Hat Yai, Petchaburi, Hua Hin and some guy was stating this afternoon that some Bulletin (?) was fake and Chiang Mai said you didn't need insurance if prior to 31 Oct 19.

2 minutes ago, Pib said:

It sounds strange the person had to put you on hold to get an answer as I would think a LOT people have been calling with the same question...that is, I have an underlying OA from Christmas past and I'm on my X-extension of stay...does the new rule apply to me?   You would think (hope) the reps at 1178 would have been given a definitive, scripted response to such a hot/emotional question.  

 

Also, there was another person who called 1178 yesterday (it was in a related thread) and given the answer it did "not" apply unless your OA was issued after 31 Oct 2109.   

 

So, who got the right answer...you or the other caller....or have things changed since yesterday?  TIT

I asked the same thing.  Why not call yourself the number is 1178.  Maybe you will get the right answer that you want.  I told them I been doing extensions of stays for 13 years.  So I hope she realized it was before 31 Oct 19.

4 minutes ago, erymax said:

This is how I read and understand the new police order:

 

The police order amended the criteria of Consideration for granting the extension of stay. They added a new criteria which requires insurance if an applicant has been granted an OA visa (whenever). (6)  "it does not say only after 31.10.2019'

 

My understanding is unfortunately. we all, who came whenever with OA visa  and applying for extension of the permission to stay, the new amendment applies after 31.10.2019.

 

The last part of the order is dealing with the criteria of consideration for permission of stay after one year entering with OA.  

Me personally am due for extension end of May 2020 and considering to leave Thailand and live in Europe. The money required in the Bank I can use in Europe somewhere to buy a worthy Health insurance or stay 6 months a year in UK.  

It does say "This order is effective as of 31 October 2019.   It is on the bottom of the first page (of the police order).

2 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

My advice would be to call the Immigration advice line in Bangkok, I think 1178 and ask them. The wording in English, as you see, is open to differing interpretations and may also be not so clear in Thai.

 

If they tell you that it applies only to newly issued O-As tell them what happened in Prachinburi and ask what you can do about it.

 

If you do need insurance there is info on options in a thread in the Health Forum. Basically - contact a broker (I would suggest AA) and ask about April My Health Thailand if you are under 65, or Pacific Cross if you are between 65 - 75.

The police order states it is effective as of 31 Oct 19.  Anything before that date does not need the insurance.

9 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Where have you seen a report on Prachinburi???

I seen it but I can't remember what post it was on. 

If you take the time to read the police order it clearly start a non 0/a visa.

Read the police order in English and Thai here:  

I like to know why Thai visa is not gettings in touch with Gen Sompong Chingduang and tell him some of his IO in Chiang Mai and Jomtien immigrations  are given out wrong information on who requires to have health insurance effective 31 Oct 19.  These idiots need to be fired for putting out wrong information.

When did Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam become a member of the Election Commission.  Why isn't he minding his own damn business.  He has nothing to do with this.  Why not shut the hell up.