Mango Bob

To me, it means that if you are on an extension of stay you do not need the insurance.  It is only for those applying for a visa that has to have the insurance. Does it make sense?  No, it does not. But I will accept it because it benefits me.  But I am sure there will be more to come in the future.

I got a quote from them also.  I am 71 and the quote was 1,991.00 per month.   It is not like wine.  It doesn't get better over time.

14 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

Medicare US covers Americans for ER services ???? provide link to prove this

 I googled this:    Medicare may pay for inpatient hospital, doctor, ambulance services, or dialysis you get in a foreign country in these rare cases: You're in the U.S. when a Medicalemergency occurs, and the foreign hospital is closer than the nearest U.S. hospital that can treat your medical condition.

1 minute ago, Mitkof Island said:

Covers non military ?

No

9 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

Please provide a link to this coverage you speak of.

Here you go.   The cost to join is 0 dollars but for me over 20 years of service.

https://tricare.mil/Costs/HealthPlanCosts/TFL/Retiree_Rates

44 minutes ago, Neocon said:

There are no TRICARE contracts with local hospitals for retired U.S. military medical treatment. The few hospitals in Thailand that may choose to directly bill TRICARE for retired military inpatient treatment do so case-by-case.

In my case, I have had 8 surgeries over the past 13 years, most minor except for a valve replacement.  I had to pay 25% of the bill when I was discarded and the Hospital submitted the claim.  This was at Bumrungrad Hospital and I know BNH does it also   If I have met my cap, I will get a direct deposit to my bank account.  I wouldn't use a government hospital for the reason my valve was replaced with a calf valve (which is normal) and if at a government hospital I would be afraid it be a water buffalo valve.

Just return back from Ratchaburi immigrations.  They told me 30 days.  I asked if I could do it a little earlier by 7 days and they told me Yes.  So I am all set in case, at least no insurance this year if at all.

31 minutes ago, Danthai said:

Agree. Retired military should have no problem because it is an excellent benefit for retired military. Not sure Thai Immigration knows much about it, but here in Chiangmai, as I understand it, has a contract with Tricare and bills directly for their part. Also, part if the coverage is the benefit is Coverage 100% coverage after the first $3000 of allowable benefit each year.

 

Hope the US Embassy can help educate the Thai Immigration about the Tricare coverage for active and retired military.

What the Embassy or JUSMAGTHAI has to do is get with Thai immigration and inform them of the benefits and that it is so much better than what any Thai policy will give and it free for military retirees. 

15 minutes ago, essox essox said:

should have gone before you posted !!!!! then you would have known......

You should have not answered if you are going to act immature.  You don't know if I am 5 minutes to the immigration office or 3 hours.

Thank you for your answers.  I will just go to immigration and ask about there policy.

Mod you can close this if you wish.

My current extension of stay ends Jul 27, 2019.  How many days prior to this date can I go and do my extension.  I want to do it in June just to be safe if the insurance does apply for extension of stay?

47 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

It's been explained to you in other threads using quotes from various sources who are dealing with the new proposal, but you still persist in blowing false smoke into the issue to cause confusion and paranoia, because you cannot understand what you read ….. if indeed you've read any of the updated reports clarifying exactly to what and whom the proposal affects, since the original announcement.

I wish you were right, but I doubt it very much.  You are telling us only someone getting a visa from an embassy or renewing one (not extension) will require insurance.  But those living here applying for extensions will not.  So that person who gets an O/A visa will not in the future need insurance when they do an extension?  I think you are the one blowing smoke and playing work games with extension and renewing.  I say you and anyone else saying this is sitting on their brains.

They are nothing but cowards and liars.  Do not want to do the best for their country only or their party.  Joining the enemy when they said they wouldn't.

5 hours ago, Huckenfell said:

How does Mango Bob do this.

 

I do nothing different than others.  I got my O/A at the consulate in NY.  Came here did my extension of stay each year for 13 years.  There is nothing special about what I did.  I transfer more than 65,000 each month got the letter of income form the Embassy and followed the rules.  Now they want me to have health insurance.  Lucky my extension is 27 July so I will do it in late June to miss the insurance this year.  But I have Tricare for Life which is 10 times better than the crap they are offering here but how do you prove to a Thai IO.  No one knows yet and it is only a month away.  I think they need to come up with another date farther out to give people time after they decide what the hell they do.  I really hate this crap, but I am staying.

39 minutes ago, essexman said:

After reading about this on Tuesday morning, and after reading hundreds of posts on two threads I've come to the conclusion that no one is 100% sure if they are affected or not by this Compulsory health insurance.  Many people have different perceptions of what has been written, what has been said, and who it affects.  From day one I found it hard to believe that this new rule would only affect a small minorty of people over the age of 50.  I'm on an extension, but until this new requirement comes into affect in July, I'm not counting my chickens.  Not until I hear news from an official source and not from a forum/newspaper.

I agree with you.  No matter what the so-called experts say here I believe it includes those on extensions of stay.  They are just playing word games here.

1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Who knows what they will do in the future. However the current proposal is only for visas not Extensions.

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I want to hope you are right, but I still have my doubts about it.  But if we do have to have the insurance they are given us so little time to prepare.  For a 50-year-old is not as bad, but when your 71 and have hypertension and a heart valve replaced it going to take some time to find an insurer.  I have health insurance as a retired military soldier but it has no policy only your id card and that you have part a and b from Medicare.  I know it better than the 40,000/400,000 they want you to have.  But how do you prove that to a Thai IO.

23 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

There is nothing to handle. It only affects visa applications at overseas Embassies. In-country Extensions are not affected.

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So you think they are going to only make those who apply for a visa at an embassy or consulate have health insurance but that those who live here and do an extension of stay year after year do not need health insurance.  Think about it.

18 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

That's most likely because it has zero to do with Immigration offices in Thailand. The visas that will require insurance (OX which already does, and OA from 1 July) can only be purchased at Thai Embassies overseas. Nothing to do with Immigration offices in Thailand.

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How about because they have not finished all the details on how they are going to handle it.  It will and does affect us.  Count of it.  Also, stop attacking the one who gives you the bad news.

2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

You are confusing an Extension of Stay based on retirement which is done in Thailand and applying for an OA visa which is done in your home country. It is only the OA visa that will require insurance from 1 July.

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All Extension of stay will require it.

I think they are being unfair to those who need to have health insurance to start it on 1 July.  They should give a year of grace to get the insurance.  It will not be easy for those over 70 to find a health insurance company to take you.  It is not going to happen overnight.