TorquayFan

Seems that posters on this topic are of similar mind. Me too. IT IS JUST BIZARRE TO HAVE THESE 24 HOUR BANS FOR REASONS OF THE SECURITY OF ELECTION DECORUM. It makes NO sense, because Voters can still drink and fight and riot and forget/make mistakes casting their votes, (or whatever it is the Authorities fear), because it's a simple task to buy your booze before 6 p.m. It's the unaware, (mainly tourists), who will be confused and probably angry when they find they can't have a pint ! I can identify with that - at a pleasant riverside location I frequent for my nightly Chang beer, they recently held a LeO promo night and would not serve Chang at all. I was boiling, (and laughing at myself), and protested my case to the LeO Rep., so I can imagine how an unsuspecting tourist would feel. A 7 night holiday becomes a 6 night holiday etc and a 14 day holiday a 12 night holiday. Fact is, Folks will book somewhere else !! It's madness. I can respect these occasions for religious reasons, (though Falang could be sensibly exempted) but for elections, this is just SILLY ! Moderation edit: too many capital letters used.

Blaxon that's a truly pathetic reply. Nothing to do with Biden - Trump is the President presiding over these horrors

IMO there should be no debate about what happened - the video has been available from the very start and most of us have seen it several times on different sources. These ICE agents have been selected in a rush and sent into action without adequate training - the whole shebang is a Trumpian catastrophic and murderous mess ! So sad to see these two fine Folks losing their lives in the mess that Trump makes. Murder - no doubt ! How anyone cannot see clearly exactly what happened is beyond belief . . . nothing to discuss for the sane among us.

I share your fury Jingting but where does it go ? A walk back is surely better than nothing ? DT is barmy at the best of times. DT also owes apologies re. fatalities to troops from other NATO Countries - Canada 159, France 71, Germany 59, Italy 58, Denmark 44, and some in many other Nations (E & O E). Injuries, many dreadful and life changing, exceeded fatalities by multiple of 5,6,7 or more. History will decide whether the USA led assault on Afghanistan was the right response to 9/11 - but that's another subject !

Yes Jingting. That was not a DT apology and just for the record, I didn't say it was. Your link, (which didn't open for me), calls it a 'walk back' but I would say DT was 'putting the record straight'. It's too much to expect any apology about anything from DT, (if he starts apologising to us, it could go on for years), but this walk back is better than nothing. As you say, what about the Danes and and . . . . ?

" . . . in a post on social media on Saturday afternoon, the US president said: “The great and very brave soldiers of the United Kingdom will always be with the United States of America. “In Afghanistan, 457 died, many were badly injured, and they were among the greatest of all warriors. “It’s a bond too strong to ever be broken. “The UK military, with tremendous heart and soul, is second to none (except for the USA)." (Yahoo). Well done for putting that straight DT ! No doubt the DT ears have been thoroughly scorched ! Next time DT, check your facts and FGS think before you speak.

The UK lost 457 military in the Afghan conflict. Heroic sacrifice in every case. God rest them . . . .

Andrew is a sleazebag and it would be good riddance, of course. But if he is considering Dubai or similar, he would IMO be making a mistake. Andrew will find he is not treated with the same reverence he'll remember from previous visits. If Andrew is considering such a move, it suggests to me he is still feeling 'hard done by' and entitled rather than adjusting to his well deserved disgrace and approbrium - MMmm. At Sandringham he could still have a pleasant life . . . BTW, all you kneejerk vultures should be reminded that Giuffre was actually 17 years old - did you have sex with a 17 year old. Many many many years ago, I did ! So give it a break ! It is as yet, not evidenced that Andrew has committed any act of paedolphilia at all ! (even though he is undoubtedly an all round sleazebag).

Last week I received an A5 sized envelope/parcel from the UK, which arrived in 4 days ! (normally takes 10 days). Currently hoping my recent cheque to HMRC arrives safely by 31/1 LOL Also received EMS post from Pattaya twice recently, posted one day, arriving the next day which was a Sunday. So my recent experience - exemplary ! (in an urban location). It depends where you are - when I lived 20 km outside Korat, months would pass by and NO post at all ! I had to go to the sorting office and find it myself. More remote locations seem to have poor or non-existent service ?

Trump is getting more barmy by the day - here is the initial line up of the projected "Board of Peace" : - 1. Shaikh Isa bin Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa [Bahrain's Minister of the Prime Minister's Court] 2. Nasser Bourita [Morocco foreign minister] 3. Javier Milei [Argentina president] 4. Nikol Pashinya [Armenia PM] 5. Vjosa Osmani [Kosovo president] 6. Shehbaz Sharif [Pakistan PM] Looks to me more like a 'Rogues Gallery" 😡 A desire for 'peace' is of course, laudable, but really, he is the Leader of the World's top mililtary power and is this the best our Don can manage ? Having abandoned his pledge to 'save' Iran's street protestors (how many lives have been lost?) and then implying he could take Greenland by force, one wonders what is going on in his head ? Very little I fear. This latest Trump triumph is about as significant as someone else's Nobel Medal or a FIFA peace prize - go for it Donald. What a sh*t show !

Sid - no I don't.

Just a few thoughtful posts on this thread, (and a deal of the usual rubbish), but Brand has been charged, which means there must be some significant evidence. I think we should wait for the results of the Trials/Appeals . . . Personally he appears to me to be a gross sleazebag and I always turned over/off if he appeared on my screens. But let Justice prevail.

Huff and puff !! Simply posturing . . . Wheres the strategy and resource to move those ideas forward ? In Anutin's dreams - nowhere else . . . .

Unblock - the answer to your question is simple. The USA is there to facilitate the 'talks' - these blood enemies won't meet otherwise. I do agree that the USA are totally biased towards Israel's interests and will not 'Chair' with an even hand ! Moving on, apart from Trump's current malarkey with Greenland, think back to his barmy plan to make Gaza a massive holiday resort. What a prock he is !

I don't see that a 'Board of Peace' for Gaza has a chance to achieve much. But let's hope Hamas will be disarmed at least, because there's no solution to be found in further violence from either side. It's my view, that without Israel's acceptance of a 'Two State' solution, hard to see how there is any way forward. Tony Blair is not evil but he made disastrous mistakes and was extremely deluded/dishonest in following Bush into Iraq. I was climbing the wall watching the news for months as Blair pursued his hoped for 'Hero' status on Bush' coat tails . . . . Sir Tony Bliar - it's sickening frankly !

It looks to me that this could turn out to be very serious for participants and the 'Owners' living in the properties. But if Thai Authorities do manage to follow through on these 'evasions' of their Law, it will compound an already awful injustice. I believe in most Countries around the World, certainly the UK, Thai people can obtain freehold on Land and own it in the fullest sense. I fail to understand why, say the UK, does not protest to Thailand about these restrictions or even, impose similar on Thai people seeking to buy property in the UK. Thailand seems to be given free rein on imposing these indignities on Foreigners here, although being free of such restrictions in the opposite situation. E & O E

You can rely on the good ole' "Private Eye" for a down to earth discussion https://youtu.be/V59br2CBgJ0 For me it's incomprehensible that anyone who has seen the original videos would be defending ICE - what sort of World do you Guys want to aspire to ????

Apparently DOJ prosecutors in Minnesota are resigning having been asked by the AG to investigate the background of Rebecca Good, the Wife of Renee Good, the deceased. WTF has that to do with a brutal murder ! A simple admission of ICE responsibility and to prosecute Jonathan Ross for Manslaughter, (he was obviously unfit for armed duty), would go a long way to helping this situation https://youtu.be/KKJQG8EktgI NO chance of ANY honesty from Trump/Vance and co ! As ever . . . . One despairs

Legal, not legal, so what ? Note the reg. no. and sort it out in due course ! Shooting someone at close range in the face THREE times was a) totally unnecessary and b) 100% illegal . . . . FGS watch this https://youtu.be/kVmtnaZKa6Q

Yellow thanks for the reply, but please consider, she was not involved in 'illegal activity' but Ms. Good was demonstrating against the presence of Ice in her neighbourhood. It's not hard to see why is it ? Wittering about the 'left' is not bright or incisive but silly ! Left, centre and right are ALL against random murdering by Police forces . . . . . .

Hanaguma I have no doubt that you hold your view sincerely, but I gently suggest you have judged it totally wrong. The ICE murder in Minneapolis is not difficult to follow at all - it's crystal clear what happened - a passive demonstrator is shot in the face 3 times by an ICE Officer though he is under NO threat at all. The other ICE 'mistake' here is that this Officer had been traumatised, apparently, in an incident 6 months ago, in which case, he should not have been on armed duty at all - he is obviously grossly unstable . . . . . However, a young Mum loses her life and truth becomes lies again - no one in Trump world can be honest about this or anything else, Shame ! Please have a look at this . . . .

To Mr Thumbs Down - look at the Officers video again and have a watch of this https://youtu.be/kVmtnaZKa6Q Case rests . . . . But it's Minnesota dooh !

Trump now plays the Russia, China, N.Korea ploy to the full. Many Maga acolytes still seem hypnotised by this destructive idiocy and it's sad to see this at work even on this Forum. The ICE murder in Minneapolis is not difficult to follow at all - it's crystal clear what happened - a passive demonstrator is shot in the face 3 times by an ICE Officer though he is under NO threat at all. The other ICE 'mistake' here is that this Officer had been traumatised, apparently, in an incident 6 months ago, in which case, he should not have been on armed duty at all - he is obviously grossly unstable . . . . . However, a young Mum loses her life and truth becomes lies again - no one in Trump world can be honest about this or anything else, Shame ! Here's an interview with Kristi Noem - God help America ! https://youtu.be/llCJTOYcAeo

Sorry Hanaguma - it's not impossible to see at all. Come on now ! If you are standing that close to the Car you can see/sense/feel it moving away to it's right. It was a totally reckless shooting - ICE had the Reg.no. so why not let her go and apprehend her later ? Totally reckless and unwarranted . . . . . Another argument is that ICE were wrong to involve this particular Agent, who apparently had suffered previously in an incident. Maybe still traumatised and obviously, too unstable to be armed ! Reprehensible and typical of Trump's USA. Shame !