NativeSon360

Sorry about my previous (verbose) post yesterday. I wrote and posted on the fly.  I was being mostly sarcastically humorous. Anyway,  you're definitely in the wrong SE Asian location, if you're searching for a "spiritually aesthetic" Buddhist social environment. Baguio, or Bali are your best bets, in addition to holding par level conversational dialogue with monk, lasting (considerably) longer than 30 seconds. Again, best wishes.  

1 hour ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Kicking tourists in the head when they are on the ground is becoming a national pastime here. 

 

No, not just becoming a favorite pass-time activity among Thais. Ganging-up-on, and then kicking a downed person in the face (especially a foreigner),  is integral with the cultural "character" of the Asian menfolk mentality, from India to the South China Sea. Anytime a man will readily intimidate, then "beat" on a woman, then that man is "fundamentally" a coward. The coward is the most dangerous personality type on the planet. Welcome to realities of the SE Asian male mentality.. Oops! I suppose you'll label this post, as drivel too, eh?

1 hour ago, Seraphina said:

 

Keep up Nativeson! Mr. Green was talking about language and communication issues. I can see you're not a lawyer? And yes, intelligent people are very often polyglots (pick up a dictionary).

 

To learn a language, you need both mathematics AND music. If you have one and not the other, you’ll experience learning, speaking and comprehension difficulties; so yes, language is a recognized form of intelligence (pick up any book by Howard Gardner).

 

If you come from the UK, you will know that all students wishing to study medicine must speak either Latin or French, or both to get into a good medical school - or at least they did in my day.

 

You also ought to know that the entrance exam for both Oxford and Cambridge Universities require you to pass a written French exam which is advanced level (get an education, boyo!). And, at the risk of speaking simple English to someone who clearly didn't go to either Oxford or Cambridge, comparatives in this context are NOT equations. Comparatives in English include: good, better, more stupid and less intelligent (pick up a grammar book).

 

On dit, «L'ignorance peut être éduqué. La folie peut être traité, mais il n'y a pas de remèdie pour la stupidité.» I’m sure even with a measly C at O’level French, you Nativeson360, can work this one out.

 

Quod erat demonstrandum.

I can always tell who the real life losers are on TVF. God bless you, Serphina! Adieu!

17 minutes ago, balo said:

Thailand is not the best country to be drunk and stupid in . Unfortunately , 1000's of them are coming here every day to drink and "have fun". . Incidents like these are waiting to happen . 

No country, anywhere on this planet is the best country to be drunk and stupid in. Thais have their own brand of "bad-asses", same as all countries. Unfortunately, many of the Brit tourists fail to recognize that fact. The Aussies, Brits and Yanks who do "get-it", are probably those who have worked in the Persian Gulf region.

15 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

 

Apologies. I will ignore all facts and statistical data in future in lieu of your anecdotal evidence. 

All that I "know", is what I personally observe, and experience. The Brits need to wise-up, and leave their East_Ender attitudes @ home. Period! You are welcome to add my posts to your "ignore" list. Capisce, Padre? Huh?

17 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

 

Drivel. It is the most dangerous tourism destination for Brits, Swedes, Aussies and Americans according to their respective governments and the insurance companies. 

Ha! I am a Black-skinned American, residing in skin-color phobic Thailand for 7-years. I have traveled extensively, alone (via motor-bike) to every nook & cranny possible in Thailand. I have never had a problem dealing with Thai menfolk, and I don't even bother to smile, kiss anybody's butt, or pretend to be friendly towards them, either.

Its ALL about the "attitude" you bring to any foreign country. I personally know (hard-core) Swedes, Aussies and American expats in Thailand, whom have never had any problems in the LOS. So much for my "drivel", according to you, Padre!! Phew!

4 minutes ago, luudee said:

I too disagree with the way the "Security Guys" handled the situation.

 

BUT, on the other hand, I have never had anything even close happen

to me in my 20+ years living in Thailand, and I do go out a lot and party

hard, and respect other people.

 

But there seems to be a certain crowd that looks for trouble, and when

they find it they go crying to the police. I am sure if they would have just

walked away when told they can not enter, they would have had a nice

evening.

 

luudee

 

9 minutes ago, Reigntax said:

These bouncers are just thugs.

TAT should promote Thailand as an X-destination. Get bashed outside a night club, dodge a bomb in your city of choice, try the Pattaya plunge, get mugged by a ladyboy , bungy jump without the cord attached, fly Thai airways.

Are you stating that a typical "bouncer" @ any niteclub in the UK, is not a thug? Huh? Plus, Thailand is one of the safest countries on this planet. Try traveling more than you apparently have, so far.

Again! Granted, the Thais are real chumps, with their penchant for kicking a downed person. However, for heaven sake, what  is it with the Brits, who also have a hard-on  penchant for carrying that East_Ender "chip-on-the-shoulder" attitude EVERYWHERE (in the world) they go?

25 minutes ago, Seraphina said:

 

Actually, I don't think this person can SPEAK English. He certainly can't WRITE in English. So much for so-called, 'intelligence'.

Duh! Since when does the ability to SPEAK/WRITE English become synonymous with a person's level of "intelligence"? Perhaps you have the ability to explain that comparative equation, in plain, "discernible" English, instead, eh? Waiting for your RSVP.

On 8/14/2016 at 4:16 PM, theguyfromanotherforum said:

This is a good topic, unfortunately after the first half of the sentence I feel like I have been trolled. 

 

How about you reconfigure your thoughts better next time?

For heaven sake, man! Lighten-up! How about you re-configuring your arrogant, pissy personality, for a change. Phew!  

To the OP ~ The Theravada “notion” of Buddhism is far too “intellectually” advanced, genetically achieved and spiritually heightened, for the feeble-minded brain (of the average western farang) to comprehend! An entire cultural-character has been soundly developed, based-upon the fundamental Vedics of that peculiar religious form

How dare you take issue with their most “aesthetic” tastes in musical art, or the monuments they choose to build, in honour of Siddhartha Guatama (a Tamil Indian), in the image of a Buddha.

Perhaps you’d have achieved better provincial “lifestyle” success, had you not followed the typical path of the western expat's “Yellow Brick Road” to the SE Asian “sponge”, by first starting your retiree sojourn, within the more "cosmopolitan" oriented Buddhist communities of Bali, or Baguio, instead   

Best wishes, and good luck

Where are the dark skin lovelies from Buriram or Surin

Indeed, when was the last time you recall seeing a non-white, even light-brown-skinned Thai beauty on any one of the 200+ Thai Television Channels, or even working as a flight service attendant on either Bangkok, Nok or Thai (National) Airlines, eh?

Tragically, most "indigenous" brown-skinned Thais are totally oblivious (perhaps by conscious choice), to those blatantly obvious facts of Thai cultural realities. Sigh!

Both Malaysia and Singapore have some deeply-rooted, ethnic and skin-color social issues, but nothing to the extent within the Land of Smiles

OP, first, there is no such event as the "Miss_Universe_(vis-a-vis)Thailand" beauty pageant. Those are two, totally different pageant events.

Kindly do the appropriate "due_diligence" research of the facts, before posting any further information, in that regard. Thank you,

Life is too short for such complications

Re: "Clearing the path", in The Search for Nirvana, one (popularly known) stream entrant (an obvious "aspirant" only), commits "suicide", while yet another (also popularly known) has a "nervous breakdown", and, is further deported from Sri Lanka (of all places), to the UK? Not a very encouraging sojourn path to take, especially for the "uninitiated" aspirant of the future, to pursue.

Correction Jomo Kenyatta's Mau_Mau were not the terrorists. The British had "imported" to Kenya, the SE Asian diseases of Malaria, and Yellow Fever, together with their "moral decadence" to East Africa. The Mau_Mau wanted the British to "vacate the premises" post-haste! Period!

Get your facts straight, prior to posting just any ole controversial tripe. Thank you, sir!

no big mouth concerning facts! please read, weep and repent the nonsense you posted about "closet Brits introducing being gay in the colonies".

British Colonial Era Anti-Sodomy Laws Still Reign Around The World

https://www.buzzfeed.com/miriamberger/british-colonial-era-anti-sodomy-laws-still-reign-around-the?utm_term=.mj0YLGGyvN#.yr54dkk6ge

British "Laws", still reigning around the world! Ha! Rothschild Laws would be more accurate. Anyway, it must take a real rocket scientist to "totally" lose the most expansive empire, to have ever existed in human history. Real "know-it-all" bloody geniuses, the British are.

Btw Mr. Naam, I've actually lived and worked "on the ground-floor" in Mombasa. Have you? According to the Kenyans, it was a toss of the coin to determine if the Indians were not running neck-to-neck with the British, in the sexual depravity department. And, the Nigerians concur. True story, from big mouth me! Cheers

Correction Jomo Kenyatta's Mau_Mau were not the terrorists. The British had "imported" to Kenya, the SE Asian diseases of Malaria, and Yellow Fever, together with their "moral decadence" to East Africa. The Mau_Mau wanted the British to "vacate the premises" post-haste! Period!

Get your facts straight, prior to posting just any ole controversial tripe. Thank you, sir!

no big mouth concerning facts! please read, weep and repent the nonsense you posted about "closet Brits introducing being gay in the colonies".

British Colonial Era Anti-Sodomy Laws Still Reign Around The World

https://www.buzzfeed.com/miriamberger/british-colonial-era-anti-sodomy-laws-still-reign-around-the?utm_term=.mj0YLGGyvN#.yr54dkk6ge

British "Laws", still reigning around the world! Ha! Rothschild Laws would be more accurate. Anyway, it must take a real rocket scientist to "totally" lose the most expansive empire, to have ever existed in human history. Real "know-it-all" bloody geniuses, the British are.

Sounds like they focused on persecuting "bottoms"?

The way it looks, they either really really like anuses and probe them, or they want to know what would happen to their anuses if they lived out their fantasies.

Does anybody know whether being gay was seen as anything bad in Kenya before it was colonised by the British?

If homosexuality in Kenya was not considered a bad thing, prior to the arrival of the British colonialists, then an interesting dichotomy of contradictions prevailed. The large number of upper-class "closet" gay British menfolk, posted, and proliferated throughout the former Colonies, was a well-know fact.

One of the prevailing moral issues within the Kenyan Mau_Mau (Anti-British/Colonial "presence") rebel group of 1950, was the "influence" of British/European homosexual practices, socially tolerated within the colonies, while not so (pretentiously) tolerated back home. People who live in "glass-houses (even to this day), should seriously refrain from throwing stones @ anyone, else! Good morning

good night büllshàt²!

Words of wisdom, "adeptly" written by a true Klingon, indeed

Sounds like they focused on persecuting "bottoms"?

The way it looks, they either really really like anuses and probe them, or they want to know what would happen to their anuses if they lived out their fantasies.

Does anybody know whether being gay was seen as anything bad in Kenya before it was colonised by the British?

yes it was seen as bad and punishable even during British colonial rule (which supported with laws "anti-gayness" in all colonies) and Yomo Kenyatta's Mau-Mau terroristic movement.

Correction Jomo Kenyatta's Mau_Mau were not the terrorists. The British had "imported" the SE Asian diseases of Malaria, and Yellow Fever, together with their "moral decadence" to East Africa. The Mau_Mau wanted the British to "vacate the premises" post-haste! Period!

Get your facts straight, prior to posting just any ole controversial tripe. Thank you, sir!

Sounds like they focused on persecuting "bottoms"?

The way it looks, they either really really like anuses and probe them, or they want to know what would happen to their anuses if they lived out their fantasies.

Does anybody know whether being gay was seen as anything bad in Kenya before it was colonised by the British?

If homosexuality in Kenya was not considered a bad thing, prior to the arrival of the British colonialists, then an interesting dichotomy of contradictions prevailed. The large number of upper-class "closet" gay British menfolk, posted, and proliferated throughout the former Colonies, was a well-know fact.

One of the prevailing moral issues within the Kenyan Mau_Mau (Anti-British/Colonial "presence") rebel group of 1950, was the "influence" of British/European homosexual practices, socially tolerated within the colonies, while not so (pretentiously) tolerated back home. People who live in "glass-houses (even to this day), should seriously refrain from throwing stones @ anyone, else! Good morning

My wife's aunt (who is Thai) said the same about Buddhism, that it's as much a lifestyle choice for monks as anything else. If the idea is to find a monk inclined towards meditating a lot and sorting out deepest meaning of teachings the forest temples are the place to go, and probably a limited few would be better than others.

I don't see Thai Buddhism as decadent and pointless, or the actions of a few as demonstrating that all monks are bent on living out as worldly a life as they can, regardless of the rules. It's more that it's just a religion, as with any other. Christian priests and ministers are sort of just ordinary people as well, more interested in religion than most, but not necessarily Christian ideal exemplars chosen by God or anything like that.

In my view the main difference between most religions and Buddhism is that with most of the Theistic religions all one need do is believe in ones God, pray to Him & follow his commandments including getting others to join, whilst in Buddhism actual practice is involved.

A practice requiring some faith in order to sustain initial practice.

A practice requiring considerable effort.

Hi Rocky,

I'm not sure this is the best way of describing the practice, as something that requires considerable effort. Such a description seems more appropriate for someone who's striving to become a body-builder like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The Chinese philosopher, Lao Tzu, perhaps expresses it better, as in the following quotes:

"By letting it go, it all gets done. The world is won by those who let it go. But when you try and try, the world is beyond the winning."

"Few things under heaven bring more benefit than the lessons learned from silence and the actions taken without striving."

I suspect the excuse that most people would offer for not practicing more, is not having the time. Most of us have an agenda of constant chores, duties and obligations, and are constantly interrupted by phone calls and text messages. Setting aside a period of time each day for meditation practice would involve the sacrifice of some other activity, like watching a film in the evening, or going out for dinner in a nice restaurant, or preparing an elaborate meal at home in the kitchen, or watering the garden, and so on.

However, Lao Tzu also addresses this issue in the following quote:

“Time is a created thing. To say 'I don't have time,' is like saying, 'I don't want to.”

It's also interesting to note that some historians think it possible the Lao Tzu traveled all the way to India and was actually the teacher of Siddartha Gautama, the Buddha. Others claim Lao Tzu was the Buddha himself.

Despite their 7,000 years of documented "human development", the Chinese seem to be much better at “proselytizing” about the realities a Buddhist life, than actually living it.

Only a Chinese person would claim that Lao Tzu was the Buddha. Indeed, making such a claim provides the Chinese with the plausible “deniability” of the "genetic" fact, that Siddhartha Guatama was (as a matter of fact) a black-skinned Tamil Indian, instead.

Hence, the multitude of the “Meditating (Chinese) Buddha” statues, so deliberately proliferated throughout East/SE Asia. A brief excursion to Kathmandu, will readily clear-up any confusion, in that regard.

Just start thinking in a different way.

Sharron Stone once said that a woman can fake an orgasm, but a man can fake a whole relationship.

Live on those lines in Thailand and you'll do alright.

Smart words from Sharon Stone, Respect !!!

I think you have to credit the script writer, sharon stone is a bimbo.

Duh is you! Even if what you say is true, Sharon Stone is a very, very, very rich, eye-candy bimbo. I'll respect, and worship at that lady's shrine, anytime, at the snap of her pointing fingers

Why would you consider becoming “involved” with a bargirl to begin with? You’ve met some girl who is obviously engaged in the pleasure accommodation “business”, but cannot hold a basic conversation with you, in English, in 2016 (not 1986) Thailand?

Here’s a sensible rule of measure for you: If you cannot proudly take her (the Thai-bargirl) back home to meet your Mom, then what would occasion you to consider doing anything together with her, beyond the typical holiday bedroom romance?

You may be new to Thailand, but certainly not to life.The fact that you’ve actually posted such a question on this forum, despite what you've already been forewarned about, raises serious doubts regarding your educational level, instead of the bargirl's!

I really cannot comment on Vietnamese but i have noticed that Filipnas (probably desperation) are much more content to make the first approach. Thais much prefer for you to make the first move. I strongly agree with a previous Poster that deciding on the best of the 3 counries to live should be a much stronger priority than which girls.

Thailand is the best for overall living circumstances. Thai womenfolk, in my opinion, are a total waste of time, effort and money. If the ASEAN agreement (similar to the EURO_ZONE ever gets off-the-ground, then the Filipinas, and Vietas will be snatching-up the western expats faster than a Thai-lass can say "up to you".

I stated earlier that I would opt for the Filipina overall, compared Thai or VN, but that was wrong. I'll opt for the Vietnamese overall, and for reasons that I care not to share on TVF