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13 hours ago, greenchair said:Look it up. The definition of marriage is a union between 2 people. Specifically a man and a woman.
The legal definition is the union of a man and a woman, to be a man and a wife.
Why a gay couple would even consider marriage is beyond my understanding.
They have a civil union, of which the legal definition is the union of two people of the same sex which gives them similar rights as marriage.
You don't see heterosexuals running around demanding a civil union screaming discrimination. Even though an opposite sex couple would be denied that privilege. I am glad thailand has legalised acivil union. Hopefully it ends there.
Nothing to do with love.
Love is irrelevant.
It's a legal necessity for finances.
Nothing more.
Oh please, can we have two Thaivisa’s one for the few bigoted and crazy people and one for everyone else? They won’t mind, it will be almost the same as regular Thaivisa. But make sure we call it something else so people like this poster will be sure to know they are not the same.
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I wonder how many of the nedative comments are being posted by men who have realtionships that are subject to the judgement of society. Older men with young wives, cross racial, arranged....
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4 hours ago, greenchair said:
So one study of 95 female couples by telephone survey in your mind is an extensive study, similar to alcoholic and drug families.
The children were only asked about to the age of 17 which is hardly indicative.
How many male male studies have been done.
And not with one phone call either.
In depth study?
There are numerous studies showing similar results whereas most studies showing otherwise lack per review and support. It is like climate change. A bunch of bunk studies without peer review are cited by those who want to live in the dark and the relavant studies be dammed. Google the question yourself. There are plenty to find if understanding the issue is what you seek, otherwise stay in the dark.
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6 hours ago, greenchair said:
There have been significant studies of children raised by single parents, drug addicted parents, alcoholic parents. In general most go on to emulate their parents and have extremely difficult lives. There have been few, if any, studies on the children that have grown to adulthood raised by the gay community. Mostly because gay people would scream discrimination if serious studies were implemented. But if the other fringe of societies families are anything to go by. The child most likely will emulate the parents and go on to have a difficult life on the fringes of society.
The only thing worse than being misinformed, is being misinformed and spreading that misinformation
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14 hours ago, Eligius said:From what I observe (both here in Thailand and in the West), it tends to be a generational thing: the older generations are much more conditioned against gayness (they think it is 'unnatural' - even though it abounds in nature!), whereas the younger generations tend to be (not always, of course) much more open-minded, informed and tolerant.
It's the same with certain forms of secular religion in Thailand (I need not be more specific): as the dinosaurs gradually die off, those cults of the Personality will begin to lose their hold and their appeal and a more rational, egalitarian and open-minded vision of this land and the world will begin to supplant them.
May that day hasten on!
Appears to be a large number of dinosaurs on Thaivisa
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4 hours ago, Voodoochile said:
Dont know about "correct" but i Would exchange it with the west's policy in a heart beat.
I Would rather we repress homosexuality than promote it.
Perhaps we should follow your suggestion and resume stoning people to death as well? Who needs human rights?
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16 hours ago, Eligius said:
I totally understand your feelings and you have every right to block from your sight any poster on Thaivisa whose views are obnoxious to you. I have done the same myself with some people.
However:
I fully defend Possum's right to express his viewpoints (distasteful though they be to me and many others). We may choose to read his views or not. But he has every right to express his opinion. Fascism comes in many forms - and as soon as we try to stop up the mouth of people whose opinions we don't like, we become fascists. I will have no part of it (I'm not saying D2b2, by the way, that you are behaving in a fascist manner - you are not - please don't misunderstand me: I actually share your sentiments).
The answer is to argue against views we dislike and show why their vision is extremely narrow and unfair.
Anyway, that's my take on the matter. Maybe some people will agree with me - others not. That is our great freedom in a democracy of ideas (which we try to preserve here on Thaivisa!).
I am not suggesting he be blocked from posting. I just wish there was a button I could choose to no longer have his posts included in my feeds. I don’t have interest in seeing the ranting of bigot.
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10 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:
I think possum1931 must win the prize for the largest ignore list on here.
I, for one, are so happy to be a member of it already!
If there is a way to block comments from such users I wish I knew how it operates
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2 minutes ago, possum1931 said:I am not a bigot, nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexual weddings as long as they keep their business private. If I was sitting in the company of people and found out that there were a couple of homosexuals in the company, I would be happy to have a conversation with them as long as they were not effeminate.
Ummmm yes you are a bigot. How many of your friends (assuming you have some) do require keep their weddings private?
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4 minutes ago, Jen65 said:
LGBT "Q" ?????? where on earth did the "Q" come from ???? Never seen a "Q" on the end before !!! must be a Quirk of someones imagination !
Close... It means questioning
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11 minutes ago, Berkshire said:
As there are over 190 countries in the world and your list contains fewer than 30, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "the world has moved on." And even in my home country of the USA, there are powerful forces seeking to turn back the clock and make same-sex marriage illegal again. So we should be applauding Thailand for even taking the issue seriously, instead of bashing on them.
Pointing out that Thailand has failed to enact any human rights (LGBTQ or otherwise) improvements in 4+ years and suggesting pressure be applied from the international community is hardly bashing. The article states the previous administration was already acting upon the issue and thatt under the junta the issue is now in committee again. In Thailand, it seems roadmaps to promises are very lengthy and circuitous.
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3 hours ago, AGareth2 said:
national security?
queer?
sounds a bit nasty
Queer. Just taking back of what is meant as an insult and turning it into a badge of honour. If you own the word, no one can harm you with it. It removes the power from those who seek to insult and harm with their words. If only it were as easy to neutralise the physical violence.
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1 minute ago, WinnieTheKhwai said:But still limited to just one person right? It reeks more of Western liberal imperialism than an actual step forward.
Why don't governments just stay out of marriage completely. Just stop micromanaging and documenting the way people choose to live together.
Because without the legal protections and clarity defined by the marriage contract, the rule of law as well as the rights and privileges of marriage would be lost. Basic protections would become subjective and capriciously applied
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While Thailand is still taking baby steps in committee, the world has moved on. Perhaps the first steps Thailand should take is simply recognizing the marriages of same sex couples performed in other countries. The Thai government has every expectation that the marriages of their citizens will be recognized abroad, they simply do not extend those same rights and privileges to many legally marrried same sex couples residing in Thailand. The countries that do recognize marriage equality should pressure the Thai government by threatening to no longer recognize Thai marriages.
- Argentina (2010)
- Belgium (2003)
- Brazil (2013)
- Canada (2005)
- Colombia (2016)
- Denmark (2012)
- England and Wales (2013)
- Finland (2015)
- France (2013)
- Germany (2017)
- Iceland (2010)
- Ireland (2015)
- Luxembourg (2014)
- Malta (2017)
- The Netherlands (2000)
- New Zealand (2013)
- Norway (2008)
- Portugal (2010)
- Scotland (2014)
- South Africa (2006)
- Spain (2005)
- Sweden (2009)
- United States (2015)
- Uruguay (2013)
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1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:Keep going, I'll be able to marry my Japanese sex robot soon !
Well if you live in Thailand and the only date you can find is a Japanese robot.... well that speaks volumes about yourself
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22 minutes ago, Xyzero said:
This idiot wouldn’t do this in his country! You people are way to generous make him pat compensation and give him 2 years without early release. He is obviously a. NUT that should be taking off the streets
They do it, seemingly every day
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Hua Hin celebrates for a day and a half. Having experienced Songkran in Bangkok and Chang mai, I can definitely say the Hua Hin's more laid-back and personal Songkran is enjoyable.
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Takes a licking and keeps on ticking
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Thai Red Cross operates a similar clinic in BKK. That model should be expended to include other Thai locations. It ends up saving lives and money in the long run. These clinics use cheaper generic HIV meds which will sadly be threatened by the Junta’s mad and thoughtless rush to join The Trans Pacific Partnership trade agreement.
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Sigh, eye roll, sigh
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1 hour ago, CNXBKKMAN said:
Air Asia X the long haul arm of Air Asia that flies to Japan, Australia, Hawaii etc is considering flying between Hua Hin and Chiang Mai? Can a A330 operate out of Hua Hin? Quality reporting?
It has previously been reported that Hua Hin airport can only service an A319. It is incapable of accommodating Boeing or other larger Airbus aircraft, due to limited runway and area flight restrictions.
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With the junta so desperate to join the TPP trade agreements, it seems highly u likely they will be able to reduce infection rates. The big pharma insists on patent enforcement on HIV drugs and the currently available affordable generic HIV meds will be gone (as will generic versions of many other persecution drugs).
High priced drugs = high rates of infection due to untreated poor. Thailand can not afford to subsidize the treatment of it’s people with high priced HIV drugs. Thailand can not afford TPP. The junta seems to be dead set about “oh oh us too,we want in” in regards to the TPP, but does not seem to realize the net impact down the road. Their rush to be included int the trad pact is shortsighted and harmful to Thailand.
New Thai law to pave way for same-sex partnerships
in Thailand News
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It is very difficult to recognize privilege when you are the party in favor. You just don’t notice when you have it. But when you have to be careful of every pronoun when discussing your weekend or purposely be vague when discussing your family lest you offend someone who is homophobe or a bigot, then it starts be problematic. You don’t notice your privileged status because you feel entitled to it. Perhaps your friend wants to be more open with you (as he probably is with his other friends) but feels weary or inhibited because he fears your reaction